Friend wants to marry her cousin so he can get US Citizenship

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Lifer
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Originally posted by: herkulease
I have a cousin in vietnam who writes alot asking me to find someone for her. I am going back there in june to personally slap her upside the head. for me I find marrying some guy in the US for citizenship is no better than slavery. she will be at that guy's mercy. then the whole sleeping with the guy. oops went off course.

anyhow I'm sure you friend can find some friends of her who is willing to help out. some money might help.

I believe dowry are illegal in the US. but you can easily get around the law by claiming customs. asians do it all the time. personally i find buying engagement/wedding rings as a form a dowry but women don't seem to make a big uproar about that. Yes I know its voluntary you could do what homer did and gave marge an onion ring. but I think you know what I mean.

On a side note.

what are 2nd and 3rd cousins?

I know atleast I think I know that 1st cousins are children of your aunt or uncle thats related to your mom/dad.

Isn't a dowry usually given by the female's family to the male's family? I wouldn't call an engagement ring a dowry really, they have very low resale value and they're generally only sold if the marriage/engagement ends...

2nd cousins share the same great-grandparents, 3rd cousins share the same great-great-grandparents. Your first cousin once-removed would be your parent's cousin or your cousin's child. First cousin twice removed would be your grandparent's cousin or your cousin's grandchild. So on and so forth.
 

herkulease

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Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: herkulease
I have a cousin in vietnam who writes alot asking me to find someone for her. I am going back there in june to personally slap her upside the head. for me I find marrying some guy in the US for citizenship is no better than slavery. she will be at that guy's mercy. then the whole sleeping with the guy. oops went off course.

anyhow I'm sure you friend can find some friends of her who is willing to help out. some money might help.

I believe dowry are illegal in the US. but you can easily get around the law by claiming customs. asians do it all the time. personally i find buying engagement/wedding rings as a form a dowry but women don't seem to make a big uproar about that. Yes I know its voluntary you could do what homer did and gave marge an onion ring. but I think you know what I mean.

On a side note.

what are 2nd and 3rd cousins?

I know atleast I think I know that 1st cousins are children of your aunt or uncle thats related to your mom/dad.

Isn't a dowry usually given by the female's family to the male's family? I wouldn't call an engagement ring a dowry really, they have very low resale value and they're generally only sold if the marriage/engagement ends...

2nd cousins share the same great-grandparents, 3rd cousins share the same great-great-grandparents. Your first cousin once-removed would be your parent's cousin or your cousin's child. First cousin twice removed would be your grandparent's cousin or your cousin's grandchild. So on and so forth.

well I'm sure there's a word for the other way around. and I'm sure both are illegal.

edit -> ah there is a word for the other way around. m-w.com has bride-price
 

Double Trouble

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I'd report them to the INS (actually, the USCIS now). He should be deported, and she should be in jail (if they do go through with it). There's a reason there are laws. You don't get to pick and choose which ones are 'good laws' and which ones you can ignore. If he wants to come over so bad (and I'm sure he does), then he can go through the same channels as every other Chinese citizen that wants to come over legally......

Further, while there are millions of illegals entering every year, if you actually do go through the paperwork and stuff, you're a lot more likely to end up on the INS's radar, and they might actually check. I hope they do in this case, boot his butt out and put her in jail.
 

magomago

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Sep 28, 2002
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Well shows what kind of future she has if she dropped all her classes...

BUT I could see circumstances on why they want to get their family in the USA beacuse it does allow flexibility to be able to have a link between the two countries. I wonder though if she really wants to marry him or she might be pressued into it and she gets mad at you because she doesn't want to seem disobedient to her parents else she'd be "selfish" for not "helping the family". I didn't thikn people would actually try that though, my guess its a small number.

for me I find marrying some guy in the US for citizenship is no better than slavery. she will be at that guy's mercy.
nah if it went through he'd be at the mercy of her
 

Koing

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Oct 11, 2000
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People are SO poor in some countries it is sick.

$10 a MONTH...

It probably happens a lot already.

Koing
 

aceO07

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This is interesting..

If this works, and he comes over and they're married..
1. I suppose they'll live together? Are they living with her parents? Because he'll be POOR, unless he can speak english very well and has marketable skills.
2. Does she plan on ever separating from her cousin? I guess if she had a bf, he'd blow up.
3. Has she given any thoughts about her own life? It'll be gone if she goes through with this..
4. The only person who gains from this is the guy. And maybe his family, if he is hardworking and manages to save and send money back. If he's as young and immature as she is, he could go bad and not make much of himself..
 
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