Friend's 2 week old Seagate just died.... lost 30gb of pics

[aphex]

120gb 8mb cache purchased retail from BestBuy (he's gonna get me the model # later today)

Yesterday afternoon, almost 2 weeks to the day since he bought the drive, drive no longer shows up in windows.

He checked it out, loud clicking noise every 2 seconds.

Popped it in an external enclosure, same thing.

Remind me NOT to get a seagate next time im in the market.

 

[Bozo Galora]

just curious, was it a 7200.7, 7200.8 or 7200.9?

 

[Biggerhammer]

freeze that puppy!

 

[Fullmetal Chocobo]

I lost a lot of pics when my power supply hiccuped and took down 2 of my RAID 5 drives... Lost all kinds of stuff, including several years worth of digital camera pics and music. Sorry to hear someone else had to go through that crap.

 

[CalvinHobbs]

when my 5days old maxtor sata 200 gig died i lost 160gigs of music,pics n movies ... the thing just died on me, i got it replaced after two weeks but still no courage to fill again...since then i've built an external 12V power supply to power all my cooling fans except the cpu of course...eventually your mate will get over it...damn man...

 

[Icepick]

Originally posted by: Biggerhammer
freeze that puppy!

Seriously. Put it in the freezer for an hour and then hook it right up to the PC. This has been known to resusitate failed hard drives in some instances. Otherwise, if those pics weren't stored anywhere else then they'll be gone forever. It's worth a try.

Edit: Freezer Trick
Freezer Trick Theory Explained Here

 

[Fullmetal Chocobo]

Originally posted by: calvinHobbs
when my 5days old maxtor sata 200 gig died i lost 160gigs of music,pics n movies ... the thing just died on me, i got it replaced after two weeks but still no courage to fill again...since then i've built an external 12V power supply to power all my cooling fans except the cpu of course...eventually your mate will get over it...damn man...

I know what you mean. I went from a single 460w Enermax PSU to a 600w & 500w Seasonic PSUs. And I've upgraded my storage to a 6-disk RAID 5 array. And all important stuff is backed up on another 120gb hot-swappable hard drive...

 

[Megatomic]

Originally posted by: icepik

Originally posted by: Biggerhammer
freeze that puppy!

Seriously. Put it in the freezer for an hour and then hook it right up to the PC. This has been known to resusitate failed hard drives in some instances. Otherwise, if those pics weren't stored anywhere else then they'll be gone forever. It's worth a try.

Edit: Freezer Trick
Freezer Trick Theory Explained Here

A few years back I froze two drives and saved the files on them. One was for a local small biz, they almost lost their payroll info. :Q The other drive was my own, and I almost lost all my digital pics of my children and the few pics I have of my deceased mother. I've been a proponent of HDD freezing ever since.

 

[CalvinHobbs]

Originally posted by: Fullmetal Chocobo

Originally posted by: calvinHobbs
when my 5days old maxtor sata 200 gig died i lost 160gigs of music,pics n movies ... the thing just died on me, i got it replaced after two weeks but still no courage to fill again...since then i've built an external 12V power supply to power all my cooling fans except the cpu of course...eventually your mate will get over it...damn man...

I know what you mean. I went from a single 460w Enermax PSU to a 600w & 500w Seasonic PSUs. And I've upgraded my storage to a 6-disk RAID 5 array. And all important stuff is backed up on another 120gb hot-swappable hard drive...

mine died on the 2nd of jan 2006 and the shop didn't open untill 9th and my schedule allowed
me to go there on the 11th...so it was kinda 9days looking at the hard disk and cursing it...

 

[CalvinHobbs]

Originally posted by: Megatomic

Originally posted by: icepik

Originally posted by: Biggerhammer
freeze that puppy!

Seriously. Put it in the freezer for an hour and then hook it right up to the PC. This has been known to resusitate failed hard drives in some instances. Otherwise, if those pics weren't stored anywhere else then they'll be gone forever. It's worth a try.

Edit: Freezer Trick
Freezer Trick Theory Explained Here

A few years back I froze two drives and saved the files on them. One was for a local small biz, they almost lost their payroll info. :Q The other drive was my own, and I almost lost all my digital pics of my children and the few pics I have of my deceased mother. I've been a proponent of HDD freezing ever since.

me couldn't even try that as it was the board that was fvcked...

 

[Crescent13]

Originally posted by: Fullmetal Chocobo

Originally posted by: calvinHobbs
when my 5days old maxtor sata 200 gig died i lost 160gigs of music,pics n movies ... the thing just died on me, i got it replaced after two weeks but still no courage to fill again...since then i've built an external 12V power supply to power all my cooling fans except the cpu of course...eventually your mate will get over it...damn man...

I know what you mean. I went from a single 460w Enermax PSU to a 600w & 500w Seasonic PSUs. And I've upgraded my storage to a 6-disk RAID 5 array. And all important stuff is backed up on another 120gb hot-swappable hard drive...

omg. Thats alot of protection...

Lol my old WD Caviar drive died about a week ago, and I backed up! thats right! 1 DVD packed with all my videos, and another DVD full of text doctuments, music, pictures, etc... I just let everything else go (for example games that can be reinstalled, music that I have on CD that I can rip over again...)

 

[Fullmetal Chocobo]

Originally posted by: Crescent13

Originally posted by: Fullmetal Chocobo

Originally posted by: calvinHobbs
when my 5days old maxtor sata 200 gig died i lost 160gigs of music,pics n movies ... the thing just died on me, i got it replaced after two weeks but still no courage to fill again...since then i've built an external 12V power supply to power all my cooling fans except the cpu of course...eventually your mate will get over it...damn man...

I know what you mean. I went from a single 460w Enermax PSU to a 600w & 500w Seasonic PSUs. And I've upgraded my storage to a 6-disk RAID 5 array. And all important stuff is backed up on another 120gb hot-swappable hard drive...

omg. Thats alot of protection...

Lol my old WD Caviar drive died about a week ago, and I backed up! thats right! 1 DVD packed with all my videos, and another DVD full of text doctuments, music, pictures, etc... I just let everything else go (for example games that can be reinstalled, music that I have on CD that I can rip over again...)

You know, that was the b!tch of it. I had all of my graphics and backup files burnt to DVD. When I lost everything, I went to start pulling them from backup (Ghost images burnt to DVD)... Out of ~15 backup DVDz, I got 7 gigs of info. That was it. I retained about 5 gigs of graphics, out of ~40 gigs. I will never burn backup data to DVD again, because that was fvcking pitiful. Ugh, that sh!t pissed me off. Now, I can pretty much do anything with the 10 hard drives and 2 power supplies without worry.

 

[PrayForDeath]

Originally posted by: Biggerhammer
freeze that puppy!

 

[Chaotic42]

I just bought a 160GB Seagate from BB....

It's going to be my backup drive.

 

[Vegito]

If data is precious buy 2 for raid or buy a tape drive.

 

[erwos]

RAID isn't a backup solution. It's an availability solution. These are two different things. RAID isn't going to help you if you rm a file by accident. Then again, backups aren't going to help you survive a drive failure and keep on ticking. Optimally, you should have both.

For backups, you really do need DVDs, spare hard drives, or similar things that you can store OFFSITE. I'm betting that, if you calculate time in, it's cheaper to just buy hard drives whenever the stores have a "200gb for $50" or similar deal going on. That's ignoring the obvious reliability gains, too - if you keep your static-bagged hard drive in a dry, cool place, I'll bet it's around much, much longer than cheapo DVDs. Also takes up less room per GB, which is not inconsquential if you're making regular backups/archives.

That said, a good RAID 1 or RAID 5 is a reasonable way to ensure you survive a drive failure - especially if you buy drives from different "batches" or manufacturers.

-Erwos

 

[RebateMonger]

Originally posted by: Fullmetal Chocobo
Out of ~15 backup DVDz, I got 7 gigs of info. That was it. I retained about 5 gigs of graphics, out of ~40 gigs. I will never burn backup data to DVD again, because that was fvcking pitiful. .

I don't trust DVDs or CDs for backups. I've seen too many bad DVD and CD disks. I use tapes and hard drives.

 

[Vegito]

I stop using RAID 5.. I found that chances of losing 2 drive at once was a lot more than I expected...

its all RAID 1 + tape drives

 

[RebateMonger]

Originally posted by: Vegito
I stop using RAID 5.. I found that chances of losing 2 drive at once was a lot more than I expected...

Yeah, I'm not a big RAID 5 fan, either. Admittedly, it's only SLIGHTLY more at risk of data loss than RAID 1, unless you have a lot of drives. If you have a lot of drives in the array, it gets riskier and riskier. I guess that's why they have RAID 10!

Plus, you lose the nicety of being able to yank a drive from a RAID 1 array, making an instant system backup disk.

 

[0roo0roo]

its russian roulette with consumer drives don't be down on seagate, its happened to people with any brand u can pick backups people lol

course thats not realistic. raid mirroring should really be standard.

 

[Refractoryman]

I had same thing happen a couple of years ago. I learned the hard way. I now have (3) internal hardrives. One for OS & Apps and the other (2) for backup. Plus (1) external hard drive and DVD back-ups. To the extreme, yes. But I still worry. You can never have enough. Plus I work out of my house and with work and personal files.

 

[Bonesdad]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
its russian roulette with consumer drives don't be down on seagate, its happened to people with any brand u can pick backups people lol

course thats not realistic. raid mirroring should really be standard.

true...in my experience seagate is the only brand that has NOT failed me.

 

[Kaido]

Easy solution: buy an external hard drive the same size as your main one and Ghost an image of your primary drive to it every night

 

[imported_rod]

I guess you should wait for a new componet to be properly burnt-in before loading all your important files onto it.

And another reason to back-up regularly.

RoD

 

[blackrain]

For those complaining about DVD backups not being reliable, do youn scan your DVD's for PIF's and PIE's after you burn the DVD? Or do you just burn and assume it all went well? You might want to see the cdfreaks forum for more info about checking the reliability of your DVD after its burned. I have a BENQ 1620 and use only Taiyo Yuden, Sony TY's and verbatim which all give me DVD's with extremely low errors. I think that's as good of a backup solution as anything else. (downside...just a bit time consuming to scan everything)