From 7950 to 280X or 290 on FULL HD ?

[brandon888]

Here my PC :

VGA: SAPPHIRE HD 7950 3GB GDDR5 925MHZ
CPU: Intel Core i7-3930K
Cool: Arctic Cooling Freezer i30
MB: ASUS P9X79
RAM: Corsair Vengeance 8GB 1600 MHz
HDD : Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200RPM Sata III
PSU: Corsair TX 850W
CASE: Cooler Master's Storm Enforcer
TV: Samsung 46 Inch (6400)




I have 7950 boost now ... play BF4 , AC Games and will also play Dragon Age inqusition , New COD , GTA 5 and ect ...


Does it worth to go from 7950 for 280x or better go for 290 ?


280x will cost me extra 70$ , adn 290 will cost me extra 220$ in my Country.


or Even better Stay with 7950 and wait for new Nvida/AMD series ?

 

[Attic]

290 or bust

280x is not going to be a worthwhile upgrade from the 7950.

 

[Stuka87]

280X is a minimal upgrade from what you have. A 290 would be quite noticeable.

But really, if your 7950 is doing ok now, wait.

 

[Morgoth780]

I have a 7950 as well, and I'm just waiting for the next generation; I'm likely going to pick up an R9 390x or GTX 880 (Ti). I'm sort of disappointed in how my 7950 performs at 1080p in BF4, I basically have to run on medium or low settings to get a consistent 60+ fps. But I play with 105 FOV and that certainly made a huge difference.

Anyway, if you really need an upgrade now, R9 290. Definitely don't get a 280x. I'd recommend just waiting for the next generation of cards though.

 

[Stuka87]

I have a 7950 as well, and I'm just waiting for the next generation; I'm likely going to pick up an R9 390x or GTX 880 (Ti). I'm sort of disappointed in how my 7950 performs at 1080p in BF4, I basically have to run on medium or low settings to get a consistent 60+ fps. But I play with 105 FOV and that certainly made a huge difference.

Anyway, if you really need an upgrade now, R9 290. Definitely don't get a 280x. I'd recommend just waiting for the next generation of cards though.

Are you sure its the card limiting you, and not your CPU? I bet if you run afterburner and have its graphs up, you will see the GPU is not running at 100% utilization. Unless you are running an overclocked i5/i7.

 

[Fastx]

It sounds like you can wait so I would wait at this point and if the performance vs. price isn't good at that time in your opinion, you can go to a 290 which might be $75.00-100.00+ cheaper by then.

 

[brandon888]

I have a 7950 as well, and I'm just waiting for the next generation; I'm likely going to pick up an R9 390x or GTX 880 (Ti). I'm sort of disappointed in how my 7950 performs at 1080p in BF4, I basically have to run on medium or low settings to get a consistent 60+ fps. But I play with 105 FOV and that certainly made a huge difference.

Anyway, if you really need an upgrade now, R9 290. Definitely don't get a 280x. I'd recommend just waiting for the next generation of cards though.

Seems like you are CPU limited .. i Run ULTRA No AA with 50-60 FPS ... sometimes 45 fps but that rarely happens

 

[Morgoth780]

Are you sure its the card limiting you, and not your CPU? I bet if you run afterburner and have its graphs up, you will see the GPU is not running at 100% utilization. Unless you are running an overclocked i5/i7.

I have an i5 3570k at stock. I suppose I might need to overclock, but when I was running 90 FOV (w/ i5 @ 4 Ghz) I was almost able to get a consistent 60 fps on Ultra w/ AA. I decided to try increasing my FOV a bit, and as I did I noticed my framerate getting worse. I suppose I should restore my 4.0 Ghz overclock to see if that helps, but I'm using Mantle so I sort of doubt that will make a big difference.

Also the Dragon's Teeth maps don't seem to be particularly well optimized at all.

 

[brandon888]

seems like from 7950 to 280x is worthless .... i have to go for 290 or wait ^^ .... new generation Gpus expected in fall i guess

 

[RussianSensation]

Overclock the 7950. At 1170mhz, it outperforms after-market 280X and 770. Overclock the CPU too. Should be able to coast to next gen easily with these 2 steps.

 

[brandon888]

Overclock the 7950. At 1170mhz, it outperforms after-market 280X and 770. Overclock the CPU too. Should be able to coast to next gen easily with these 2 steps.

1170 at stock voltage ?:O no need to OC Cpu yet but i will Oc it to 4.2 with Asus mainboard auto Oc later

 

[Attic]

Yea, RS spot on here. Forgot about OC potential of the 7950. The 7950 will get quite the pickup from an OC, and you should be able to get 1100c at min with some voltage bump. If you want to push it, 1100+ is not uncommon.

I ran two of the MSI TFIII 7950's at 1100c with minimal core voltage bump. It was basically just a set and go at that speed.

 

[flash43]

A 280X is pretty much a 7970, so it will be a pretty small performance improvement.

A 290 would be nice, but I couldn't justify the cost of upgrading to it myself. I'd rather wait till the next generation.

 

[RussianSensation]

1170 at stock voltage ?:O no need to OC Cpu yet but i will Oc it to 4.2 with Asus mainboard auto Oc later

We don't know what stock voltage of your card is. Check HWMonitor or GPU-Z VDDC.

You should get there with 1.20-1.25V and find a sweet spot. For example if 1130 can be had at 1.20V but 1170 at 1.25V, I would probably do 1130. Often 1.225V is a good sweet spot for Tahiti chips. Memory should do 1550-1750 depending. Use MSI Afterburner /HWMonitor to monitor your temperatures. A lot of Boost cards had 1.258V on default. In that case, just overclock without any voltage adjustment up.

 

[brandon888]

We don't know what stock voltage of your card is. Check HWMonitor or GPU-Z VDDC.

You should get there with 1.20-1.25V and find a sweet spot. For example if 1130 can be had at 1.20V but 1170 at 1.25V, I would probably do 1130. Often 1.225V is a good sweet spot for Tahiti chips. Memory should do 1550-1750 depending. Use MSI Afterburner /HWMonitor to monitor your temperatures. A lot of Boost cards had 1.258V on default. In that case, just overclock without any voltage adjustment up.

my card has 1.250 stock voltage for sure ....


OCed to 1100 haven't touched memory .... no need to OC i guess ,,,, works Great without artifacts and errors but getting hot like 80 .... well in my rooms is almust 40C so

Got like 15% Performance Gain in BF4 .. seems liek i will wait for Nex Gen GPUs

 

[AtenRa]

I have a 7950 as well, and I'm just waiting for the next generation; I'm likely going to pick up an R9 390x or GTX 880 (Ti). I'm sort of disappointed in how my 7950 performs at 1080p in BF4, I basically have to run on medium or low settings to get a consistent 60+ fps. But I play with 105 FOV and that certainly made a huge difference.

Anyway, if you really need an upgrade now, R9 290. Definitely don't get a 280x. I'd recommend just waiting for the next generation of cards though.

What CPU do you have, also do you use Mantle ??? I can have more than 60fps at High (or Ultra in some maps). this seams to be a CPU bottleneck than the HD7950 even with 105 FOV.

Edit : never mind just show you have default Core i5.

Definitely OC the CPU as high as you can even with Mantle.

 

[Topweasel]

A 280X is pretty much a 7970, so it will be a pretty small performance improvement.

A 290 would be nice, but I couldn't justify the cost of upgrading to it myself. I'd rather wait till the next generation.

A 280x is a 7970 GE. The 280 is a 7950. If anything if the OP were really desperate would be to get a 280 and CF it with with his 7950.

 

[brandon888]

A 280x is a 7970 GE. The 280 is a 7950. If anything if the OP were really desperate would be to get a 280 and CF it with with his 7950.

BTW , as i know i can CF with 280X i mean 7950 with 280X i know they will work like 2 7950s not like 2 280x s but ...

 

[brandon888]

bump .................

 

[Attic]

BTW , as i know i can CF with 280X i mean 7950 with 280X i know they will work like 2 7950s not like 2 280x s but ...

If you do it right it should be performance between 2x7950 and 2x7970. AFAIK the extra shaders on the 7970 still will be put to work.

If you go that path...

I believe the top card might have a bit more overhead, so you can run the 7970 as first card and 7950 as second card and mess with oc's to see how it improves performance or not. Obviously start at stock, but then experiment. I don't have a link handy, but I looked into similar with 7850 xfire'd with R9 270. Same architecture and different shader counts and better than 7850x2 performance when used together.

More info

main priority should be pushing the 7950 to highest stable OC. I'd reccomend getting a good second 280 if going xfire.

 

[Topweasel]

BTW , as i know i can CF with 280X i mean 7950 with 280X i know they will work like 2 7950s not like 2 280x s but ...

True I just wouldn't see the benifit of spending more on the 280x since just adding a 280 to his 7950 would be much much faster than the 280x by itself. Faster than the 290 as well.

 

[RussianSensation]

my card has 1.250 stock voltage for sure ....


OCed to 1100 haven't touched memory .... no need to OC i guess ,,,, works Great without artifacts and errors but getting hot like 80 .... well in my rooms is almust 40C so

Got like 15% Performance Gain in BF4 .. seems liek i will wait for Nex Gen GPUs

You are at 680/7970GE level of performance:
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Sapphire/HD_7950_Vapor-X/31.html

From 180-186%, it'll cost a lot to get something much faster. The marginal utility declines significantly. Even today it's hard to argue with the awesome value of an overclocked 7950/R9 280 @ 1.1-1.2Ghz:
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_750_Ti/25.html

Just wait another 1-2 years when you card starts choking and get something faster. If the games you listed start overwhelming your card, maybe you can pick up a cheaper R9 280 for $130 or so in 6 months. It's bound to happen since these cards will be old and everyone will want the new tech.

 

[brandon888]

You are at 680/7970GE level of performance:
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Sapphire/HD_7950_Vapor-X/31.html

From 180-186%, it'll cost a lot to get something much faster. The marginal utility declines significantly. Even today it's hard to argue with the awesome value of an overclocked 7950/R9 280 @ 1.1-1.2Ghz:
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_750_Ti/25.html

Just wait another 1-2 years when you card starts choking and get something faster. If the games you listed start overwhelming your card, maybe you can pick up a cheaper R9 280 for $130 or so in 6 months. It's bound to happen since these cards will be old and everyone will want the new tech.

Exelent advice as allways