From Natural News: Vaccine bombshell: CDC whistleblower reveals cover-up

[OverVolt]

Looks like Rob Schneider has documentation as well of the CDC coverup.

Thats not what it is... FFS the internet. Its just hilarious at this point.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

There was lots of work from the CDC and the pharmaceutical companies to cover any of this data from being exposed.

This is like saying we didn't land on the Moon and it was all faked because NASA and the aerospace industry didn't want us to know they couldn't get the job done. Merely saying something doesn't make it so.

Regarding ASD, one thing that's not been mentioned is that it may be far fewer new cases than numbers alone suggest.

This gives a pretty good summation of the problems in understanding what's going on.

From the article

Is autism truly on the rise, or do the new statistics simply reflect the growing awareness of the condition, the expanded definition, and other factors?
If autism is on the rise, as most experts believe, what is causing the increase?

The second part first- it seems autism is on the rise, but when did it start and how much of a real increase?

Let me give some past examples of "startling increases" of disease states which happened virtually overnight- Hypertension, high cholesterol and diabetes. More than that people "became" afflicted with the above without any physiological changes whatsoever. At first glance that would seem impossible, but there was a change, just not with people. Rather, what changed were the metrics which defined what those terms were. The threshold for diagnosis was lower so that caused apparent increases in incidence of these diseases. ASD also has had similar changes in definition which automatically changes the statistics.

Then there's what I call "new car syndrome". Whenever I get a new car suddenly the same vehicle is everywhere. Buying my car changed the nature of reality so many many more now own the same kind. Of course that's not what happened. An event triggered my alertness to the same model. Likewise increasing awareness of a disease increases alertness to symptoms and this affects health professionals as well as parents.

Decades ago we had "problem children", or "strange kids". It once was thought by many that only extremely intelligent parents produced autistic kids. When these misperceptions and myths were dispelled we had more who suffered from autism, but we really didn't.

So the problem is that we have some increase in perceived and real cases and separating the two has proved impossible. The result is that virtually anything which changed in the years being cited as evidence against immunization can be "responsible". How about fast food consumption? There you go. The real reason for autism. Well maybe not.

 

[OverVolt]

http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/27/health/cdc-autism/

I guess we could just do nothing until 1 in 1 have it and then call it normal.

 

[abj13]

It was a specific vaccine at specific ages apparently. Not all vaccines. If this is true then it is a huge problem and there is going to be a ton of backlash against the government and big business. The vaccine was MMR when given to kids under the age of 3. Even worse it specifically affected African-American kids more than other ethnicites. Very bad. There might be huge ramifications because of this. Hopefully this might lead to some cleaning up of the FDA and other government agencies. This is probably looking very bad for the government considering it only gives all the conspiracy theorists lots of more shit to go off on. And some of you guys are wondering why no one else in the world is trusting of the western big government and big business including vaccines and medical treatment. They manipulated the data by excluding any kids without valid birth certificates from the state of Georgia. There was lots of work from the CDC and the pharmaceutical companies to cover any of this data from being exposed.

Yawn. So much blind ignorance about the studies on the proposed Autism-MMR link.

Let's start with the crap that started it all, the Wakefield et al study from 1998. Since then, every author except Wakefield himself has taken themselves off that paper. The Journal that published the link has redacted the article. Wakefield himself has been exposed to be receiving financial compensation from anti-vaccine groups, and planned himself to financially benefit from lawsuits against the vaccine makers. THEN, it was also found that Wakefield performed invasive, unnecessary procedures on young children without IRB approval. Further review of his data was found to be completely fraudulent.

And so you want to believe the government is covering this all up, despite the facts that the biggest perpetuator of this false link was found to be a liar, crook, and is barred from practicing medicine? Please.

Then there's the actual research. Of the best studies (there's many more, but these have the most rigorous analysis), there are:
4 Retrospective Cohort studies
3 Case control studies
1 Time series study
1 Self Control Case series
Composing of: 1,141,962 children
From Japan, US, UK, Poland, Denmark

All of those studies found ZERO, NONE, NO associated increased risk of autism after receiving MMR.

And we're supposed to listen to a proven fabricated paper and author, who cannot even practice medicine anymore, over a million plus children who have been reviewed for an association between a vaccine and autism? Please. Its beliefs like this that have made us take a step backwards in health and safety of the population. Instead of wiping measles from the face of the earth, we're stuck with foolish false beliefs against Big Brother and the Nanny State when it comes to vaccines.

 

[abj13]

I guess we could just do nothing until 1 in 1 have it and then call it normal.

The first step would be people to stop wasting time on some MMR-Autism link, and focus on other potential causes of the perceived rise.

 

[norseamd]

All of those studies found ZERO, NONE, NO associated increased risk of autism after receiving MMR.

Then I retract my previous statement. I am not one who normally gets into this stuff. I actually was ignoring this thread until there was something about a whistleblower from the CDC. Maybe I was jumping on the issue way too early but the governments and businesses in the west are way out of control.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

The first step would be people to stop wasting time on some MMR-Autism link, and focus on other potential causes of the perceived rise.

The first step would be reading the article and understanding what it really says. The metrics used to measure have changed further confusing the issue.

 

[abj13]

After taking the few awful moments to try to read this horribly written study, published in a no-name Chinese medical journal by someone with a PhD in Chemical Engineering and is involved in vaccine litigation... can be summarized by the bastardization of science used to fuel his conclusion:

"Results were obtained at 18 months, 24 months and 31 months, rather than 36 months, as there were insufficient cases (less than 5) at the 36 month mark to carry out the analysis. Even at 31 months, there were insufficient cases of African American females. Thus, these results are not included in the analysis."

To summarize, insufficient data for non-low birth weight children, so he arbitrarily chooses another age cutoff, and makes a conclusion about males, while still having insufficient data on girls. :facepalm:

And the funniest part? If you were to accept his reanalysis, which we shouldn't, one would have to conclude there's no autism assocation with MMR for every other demographic EXCEPT African American males.

 

[bradley]

I always found the Simpsonwood document - a released transcript from 2000 of a CDC sponsored event - fairly compelling and worthy of further investigation.

This was a closed-door meeting of vaccine authorities, along with the FDA, pediatricians and drug manufacturers. Contrary to the CDC's intent to release this information to the general public, as stated in the transcript, it was only released under a Freedom of Information Act request.

These professionals raised some serious questions about the potential for neurodevelopment disorders as a result of various vaccine adjuncts and preservatives, which btw are just a small component of the overall vaccination equation needing questioning.

The FOIA transcript proves to me how some of the science behind vaccines and their additives were unfounded and unresolved, which is in stark contrast to the amount of resolute force used to administer them.

http://www.safeminds.org/legislation/foia/Simpsonwood_Transcript.pdf

For a small synopsis.... Pediatrician Dr. Johnson states how the "data on thimerosal toxicity shows it can cause neurological and renal toxicity including death."

Nephrologist Dr. Weil states, "There are just a host of neurodevelopmental data that would suggest that we've got a serious problem.... The second point I could make is that in relationship to aluminum, being a nephrologist for a long time, the potential for aluminum and central nervous system toxicity was established by dialysis data. To think there isn't some possible problem here is unreal."

Dr. Johnson goes on to state about his newly-born grandson, "I do not want that grandson to get a thimerosal containing vaccine until we know better what is going on. It will probably take a long time. In the meantime, and I know there are probably implications for this internationally, but in the meantime I think I want that grandson to only be given thimerosal-free vaccines.”

Plenty more in that transcript for anyone interested in reading further about the potential of neurotoxicity.

And now you have one of the lead scientist of an important MMR paper turning whistleblower after over a decade.

You'd be an idiot not to realize there many questions and far few answers. That's a scary proposition for something as ubiquitous as mandatory vaccinations administered in the developmental years of life.

 

[abj13]

And now you have one of the lead scientist of an important MMR paper turning whistleblower after over a decade.

You'd be an idiot not to realize there many questions and far few answers. That's a scary proposition for something as ubiquitous as mandatory vaccinations administered in the developmental years of life.

I take it you don't understand the history of some of the discussions that happened 14 years ago. At that time, the work behind thimerosal was mostly theoretical, from a fundamental position, mercury is seemingly a bad thing to be injecting into the body, as mercury poisoning has serious consequences. That information was extrapolated onto thimerosal, even though the biology, pharmacokinetics, pharmacodynamics, toxicity, and metabolism were not clearly elucidated.

14 years later, there is solid evidence that there is no association between thimerosal and autism. There is better data that the metabolism of thimerosal in the human body does not result in a toxic substance that can accumulate into neuro tissues.

As a former chair of the AAP Committee on Infectious Diseases and the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices put it in one letter to the journal of Pediatrics:
"Had the AAP (and, we suspect, the USPHS) known what research has revealed in the intervening 14 years, it is inconceivable to us that these organizations would have made the joint statement of July 7, 1999" (the statement calling for immediate removal of thimerosal).

And since then, it has been repeatedly shown that Wakefield was a corrupt researcher, who faked his results, performed unapproved invasive procedures on children, and has had his journal article redacted by his co-authors and the publishing journal. Subsequently, multiple studies looking at over a million children have not shown an association between MMR and autism.

Of course it looked scary back in 2000. But if you don't understand the story, how it evolved from 2000 to today, of course you are going to draw incorrect conclusions.

And yet, vaccines have saved millions of lives. But apparently people still want to go back to the days of living with polio. Heck, measles has already resurfaced in the US because of these false beliefs of vaccines.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

And yet, vaccines have saved millions of lives. But apparently people still want to go back to the days of living with polio. Heck, measles has already resurfaced in the US because of these false beliefs of vaccines.

You've done a good job of explaining things, but I gave up on this long ago. The leading cause of belief in the untrue is willful ignorance and there's not much one can do to about that, but kudos for trying.

 

[abj13]

You've done a good job of explaining things, but I gave up on this long ago. The leading cause of belief in the untrue is willful ignorance and there's not much one can do to about that, but kudos for trying.

Eh, if there's anyone out there who actually takes the time to read, that is my target audience, not the anti-logic, anti-science tools that like to post here.

 

[JEDIYoda]

I always found the Simpsonwood document - a released transcript from 2000 of a CDC sponsored event - fairly compelling and worthy of further investigation.

This was a closed-door meeting of vaccine authorities, along with the FDA, pediatricians and drug manufacturers. Contrary to the CDC's intent to release this information to the general public, as stated in the transcript, it was only released under a Freedom of Information Act request.

These professionals raised some serious questions about the potential for neurodevelopment disorders as a result of various vaccine adjuncts and preservatives, which btw are just a small component of the overall vaccination equation needing questioning.

The FOIA transcript proves to me how some of the science behind vaccines and their additives were unfounded and unresolved, which is in stark contrast to the amount of resolute force used to administer them.

http://www.safeminds.org/legislation...Transcript.pdf

For a small synopsis.... Pediatrician Dr. Johnson states how the "data on thimerosal toxicity shows it can cause neurological and renal toxicity including death."

Nephrologist Dr. Weil states, "There are just a host of neurodevelopmental data that would suggest that we've got a serious problem.... The second point I could make is that in relationship to aluminum, being a nephrologist for a long time, the potential for aluminum and central nervous system toxicity was established by dialysis data. To think there isn't some possible problem here is unreal."

Dr. Johnson goes on to state about his newly-born grandson, "I do not want that grandson to get a thimerosal containing vaccine until we know better what is going on. It will probably take a long time. In the meantime, and I know there are probably implications for this internationally, but in the meantime I think I want that grandson to only be given thimerosal-free vaccines.”

Plenty more in that transcript for anyone interested in reading further about the potential of neurotoxicity.

And now you have one of the lead scientist of an important MMR paper turning whistleblower after over a decade.

You'd be an idiot not to realize there many questions and far few answers. That's a scary proposition for something as ubiquitous as mandatory vaccinations administered in the developmental years of life.

You`d be an idiot NOT to immunize your children based on what Bradley just posted!!

 

[bradley]

Eh, if there's anyone out there who actually takes the time to read, that is my target audience, not the anti-logic, anti-science tools that like to post here.

I've read way more convincing arguments than yours; but yeah, I didn't realize we were conversing with such a proud and incredibly bright guy.

Anyway... at that Simpsonwood conference, the professional consensus was that the effects of ethylmercury (contained in vaccines since the 1930's) in the brains of infants was unknown - as it was completely unstudied at that time. Yet these doctors were discussing the potential for neurotoxicity (capable of causing developmental delays) during a period of mandatory administration to an extremely large population. Yeowch.

Without a FOIA *lawsuit,* these important scientific questions would have been suppressed from public viewing. Therefore it makes my inquisitive concerned mind wonder what else has been hidden by the CDC and other govt. agencies and what is the existing potential for more whistleblowers.

Of course, I don't begrudge the trusting go along/get along types. I just appreciate the effectuality of those who question authority far more.

 

[abj13]

I've read way more convincing arguments than yours; but yeah, I didn't realize we were conversing with such a proud and incredibly bright guy.

Anyway... at that Simpsonwood conference, the professional consensus was that the effects of ethylmercury (contained in vaccines since the 1930's) in the brains of infants was unknown - as it was completely unstudied at that time. Yet these doctors were discussing the potential for neurotoxicity (capable of causing developmental delays) during a period of mandatory administration to an extremely large population. Yeowch.

Without a FOIA *lawsuit,* these important scientific questions would have been suppressed from public viewing. Therefore it makes my inquisitive concerned mind wonder what else has been hidden by the CDC and other govt. agencies and what is the existing potential for more whistleblowers.

Of course, I don't begrudge the trusting go along/get along types. I just appreciate the effectuality of those who question authority far more.

Nice revisionist history. The CDC and AAP had made the recommendation to remove thimerosol one year before that conference, and the vaccine makers had already rapidly removed it from most vaccines, with that process being completed by 2001. There's no conspiracy theory.

And the fact remains, making decisions based off of incomplete or false data has greatly damaged the line between the science of vaccines and the public's view of vaccines. The decision to remove thimerosol was premature, and probably has done more damage to the safety and purity of vaccines, than any connection to autism (which doesn't exist). There is NO link between thimerosol and Autism.

Likewise, people like Wakefield should bare the blunt of every vaccine preventable death in first world countries like the US. You want to give creedence to people like Wakefield, but his falsefied research, blatant disregard for science and intellectual dishonesty has severely impacted the field. There's a difference between carefully reviewing the data and making proper conclusions (science), and outright making crap up (that's Wakefield).

Instead of listening to the millions of children who have shown no link between autism and MMR, we are supposed to listen to some made up "whistleblowers" like Wakefield? There's a reason why Wakefield has been abandoned by every author of his paper, the journal has removed his article, and he's been stripped of any ability to practice medicine. And yet, that doesn't come anywhere close to the amount of damage his style of "whistleblowing" has done.

 

[Stewox]

.... as per usual, also I think if some people can't handle the information I'm sorry for them but it's not my problem. but let's get on now,


Updating OP with several new developments and ofcourse the press release.

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE-AUGUST 27,2014

STATEMENT OF WILLIAM W. THOMPSON, Ph.D., REGARDING THE 2004 ARTICLE EXAMINING THE POSSIBILITY OF A RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN MMR VACCINE AND AUTISM

My name is William Thompson. I am a Senior Scientist with the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, where I have worked since 1998.

I regret that my coauthors and I omitted statistically significant information in our 2004 article published in the journal Pediatrics. The omitted data suggested that African American males who received the MMR vaccine before age 36 months were at increased risk for autism. Decisions were made regarding which findings to report after the data were collected, and I believe that the final study protocol was not followed.

I want to be absolutely clear that I believe vaccines have saved and continue to save countless lives. I would never suggest that any parent avoid vaccinating children of any race. Vaccines prevent serious diseases, and the risks associated with their administration are vastly outweighed by their individual and societal benefits.

My concern has been the decision to omit relevant findings in a particular study for a particular sub* group for a particular vaccine. There have always been recognized risks for vaccination and I believe it is the responsibility of the CDC to properly convey the risks associated with receipt of those vaccines.

I have had many discussions with Dr. Brian Hooker over the last 10 months regarding studies the CDC has carried out regarding vaccines and neurodevelopmental outcomes including autism spectrum disorders. I share his belief that CDC decision-making and analyses should be transparent. I was not, however, aware that he was recording any of our conversations, nor was I given any choice regarding whether my name would be made public or my voice would be put on the Internet.

I am grateful for the many supportive e-mails that I have received over the last several days.

I will not be answering further questions at this time. I am providing information to Congressman William Posey, and of course will continue to cooperate with Congress. I have also offered to assist with reanalysis of the study data or development of further studies. For the time being, however, I am focused on my job and my family.

Reasonable scientists can and do differ in their interpretation of information. I will do everything I can to assist any unbiased and objective scientists inside or outside the CDC to analyze data collected by the CDC or other public organizations for the purpose of understanding whether vaccines are associated with an increased risk of autism. There are still more questions than answers, and I appreciate that so many families are looking for answers from the scientific community.

My colleagues and supervisors at the CDC have been entirely professional since this matter became public. In fact, I received a performance-based award after this story came out. I have experienced no pressure or retaliation and certainly was not escorted from the building, as some have stated.

Dr. Thompson is represented by Frederick M. Morgan, Jr., Morgan Verkamp, LLC, Cincinnati, Ohio, www.morganverkamp.com.

 

[Pray To Jesus]

Learned from the chief of NIH's autism research team:

ASD are genetic based conditions that people are born with. There are 100s of genes that can cause ASD. Those genes work together to form systems of pathways that control the growth and pruning of the CNS.

ASD symptoms becomes more noticeable with age. Parents see something wrong with their babies around the time that the MMR vaccines are given.

Owned.

 

[DCal430]

ASD are genetic based conditions that people are born with.

Learned that from the chief of NIH's autism research team.

Doubt you learned this because this isn't true. You probably read genetics may play some role.

 

[Pray To Jesus]

Doubt you learned this because this isn't true. You probably read genetics may play some role.

You're an idiot so I don't give a crap what you think.

 

[DCal430]

You're an idiot so I don't give a crap what you think.

Lol, you're such a dumbass. Are insults all what mindless a dumbass like you have? Posting crap you know nothing about.

 

[Pray To Jesus]

Lol, your such a dumbass.

It's self-evident that you're an idiot.

 

[surfsatwerk]

You're both idiots.

 

[DCal430]

We already know that there are environmental factors in utero that cause autism. For example around 1/3 of the children born with CRS caused by the rubella virus have autism.

 

[Pray To Jesus]

Lol, you're such a dumbass. Are insults all what mindless a dumbass like you have? Posting crap you know nothing about.

Owned.

Researchers have identified a number of genes associated with the disorder. Studies of people with ASD have found irregularities in several regions of the brain. Other studies suggest that people with ASD have abnormal levels of serotonin or other neurotransmitters in the brain. These abnormalities suggest that ASD could result from the disruption of normal brain development early in fetal development caused by defects in genes that control brain growth and that regulate how brain cells communicate with each other, possibly due to the influence of environmental factors on gene function. While these findings are intriguing, they are preliminary and require further study. The theory that parental practices are responsible for ASD has long been disproved.

What role does inheritance play?

Twin and family studies strongly suggest that some people have a genetic predisposition to autism. Identical twin studies show that if one twin is affected, there is up to a 90 percent chance the other twin will be affected. There are a number of studies in progress to determine the specific genetic factors associated with the development of ASD. In families with one child with ASD, the risk of having a second child with the disorder is approximately 5 percent, or one in 20. This is greater than the risk for the general population. Researchers are looking for clues about which genes contribute to this increased susceptibility. In some cases, parents and other relatives of a child with ASD show mild impairments in social and communicative skills or engage in repetitive behaviors. Evidence also suggests that some emotional disorders, such as bipolar disorder, occur more frequently than average in the families of people with ASD.

 

[DCal430]

Autism is a diverse condition with multiple factors including genetic and environmental, but these factors exist before birth. People are always born with autism.