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Hayabusa Rider

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What I don't understand, believe me I've even thought this way on different varying topics but we're so quick to trust the establishment on this topic while other issues we simply ignore evidence.



The only thing I know is that my boss had two children, twins to be exact have no issues and at the age of two they both received vaccines and now have protein and other immunity issues. Call it what you will but with near 7 billion people, there are bound to be people who don't take well to these things. Nothing, I repeat nothing, is ever 100%

The facts of the matter are determined by research done by many people over many years in many nations. We have absolutely no credible contradiction of their determination that there is no link between vaccinations and autism. If you like you can say that we are quick to trust the establishment when it says the world isn't flat, but the evidence to support that contention is overwhelming and one's personal knowledge does not alter the facts.
 

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The only thing I know is that my boss had two children, twins to be exact have no issues and at the age of two they both received vaccines and now have protein and other immunity issues. Call it what you will but with near 7 billion people, there are bound to be people who don't take well to these things. Nothing, I repeat nothing, is ever 100%
There will always be exceptions to any rules..take it for what it is...
 
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The only thing I know is that my boss had two children, twins to be exact have no issues and at the age of two they both received vaccines and now have protein and other immunity issues. Call it what you will but with near 7 billion people, there are bound to be people who don't take well to these things. Nothing, I repeat nothing, is ever 100%

Anecdotal. Lots of changes happen in the developing years - just because a problem develops at the same time as vaccinations does not mean that one caused the other.

A recent paper on potential causes of autism suggests the lack of cellular pruning in the brain, which would happen during those ages could lead to autism.

The scientists found that at younger ages, the number of spines did not differ tremendously between the two groups of children, but adolescents with autism had significantly more than those without autism. Typical 19-year-olds had 41 percent fewer synapses than toddlers, but those in their late teenage years with autism had only 16 percent fewer than young children with autism.

One child with autism who was 3 when he died had more synapses than any of the typical children of any age, said David Sulzer, a neurobiologist and senior investigator of the study.
Journal Article: http://www.cell.com/neuron/abstract/S0896-6273(14)00651-5
News Article: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/22/h...-many-synapses-study-suggests.html?ref=health

Genetic problems can easily underly other conditions. As genes get turned on, up, down, or off as children develop, underlying genetic problems can surface resulting in the problems observed. Are genes responsible for it all? No - it's probably not the whole picture.

In the end, the risks posed by the vaccines are far, far, far less than the risk of actually catching the disease (and the complications that go along with it). Nothing may be 100%, but with severe reactions for many vaccines at rates under 1 in a million, I'd say that 99.9999% is pretty damn safe.
 

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And this is what it has come to. Believe the state or you are crazy. Pathetic.

Exactly.

That said I do not believe what Stewox is posting. If there were dangerous side effects of certain vaccinations then I would believe that.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Exactly.

That said I do not believe what Stewox is posting. If there were dangerous side effects of certain vaccinations then I would believe that.

There are "dangerous side effects" from eating strawberries.
 

norseamd

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There are "dangerous side effects" from eating strawberries.

None that I am aware of actually. However strawberries are very good for your cardiovascular system and probably many other benefits. But remember that nothing has FDA approved "medical benefits" unless it comes in a pill.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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None that I am aware of actually. However strawberries are very good for your cardiovascular system and probably many other benefits. But remember that nothing has FDA approved "medical benefits" unless it comes in a pill.

Yeah there is and it's potentially fatal. You even know what I'm talking about but because it isn't in a pill you don't think about it. Hypersensitivity causing anaphylaxis. If it were a drug it would be on the list of things to be cautious of.
 

norseamd

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Yeah there is and it's potentially fatal. You even know what I'm talking about but because it isn't in a pill you don't think about it. Hypersensitivity causing anaphylaxis. If it were a drug it would be on the list of things to be cautious of.

Allergies?
 

Vic

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Living a overly clean lifestyle.

Not playing in the dirt, not drinking creek or river water, not playing in lakes, creeks or rivers, "always" washing your hands before you eat, not having any pets while growing up,,,,,,.

Evidence:

http://www.webmd.com/asthma/news/20120307/farm-life-linked-to-fewer-allergies

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/05/04/us-kidsallergies-idUSBRE8431J920120504
Now please explain why death rates from infectious diseases were far higher prior to modern sanitation practices.
 

norseamd

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Actually playing in the dirt is good for the immune system and everything else. Even consuming the dirt is very good for you. Poor sanitation practices including festering piles of shit and lack of washing hands in dirty situations and medical procedures are what were responsible for many infections and diseases in previous centuries and millennia.
 

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Now please explain why death rates from infectious diseases were far higher prior to modern sanitation practices.

I can't speak for him, but I know "modern sanitation practices" don't sail out the window because kids dig holes in dirt. That exposure to antigens is required for a healthy immune system doesn't mean you can't wash your hands. Common sense ought to apply.
 

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I can't speak for him, but I know "modern sanitation practices" don't sail out the window because kids dig holes in dirt. That exposure to antigens is required for a healthy immune system doesn't mean you can't wash your hands. Common sense ought to apply.
I agree, but when did TH ever post common sense?
 

Thebobo

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Actually playing in the dirt is good for the immune system and everything else. Even consuming the dirt is very good for you. Poor sanitation practices including festering piles of shit and lack of washing hands in dirty situations and medical procedures are what were responsible for many infections and diseases in previous centuries and millennia.

In 1st grade me and a friend ate dirt to impress some girls.

We went a little to far after that and rubbed poison ivy all over our face.
 

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Now please explain why death rates from infectious diseases were far higher prior to modern sanitation practices.


Clean water vs. contaminated water, sewage systems to remove waste vs. letting it pile up on streets/in gutters just outside homes/residences, control of vermin, refrigeration, etc., etc.

This sort of explains why one can see outbreaks of cholera, diphtheria, typhus, etc., from areas that have suffered natural disasters. When the power is removed from an area, so is the ability to move clean water into an area and remove the sewage....among others.
 

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Clean water vs. contaminated water, sewage systems to remove waste vs. letting it pile up on streets/in gutters just outside homes/residences, control of vermin, refrigeration, etc., etc.

This sort of explains why one can see outbreaks of cholera, diphtheria, typhus, etc., from areas that have suffered natural disasters. When the power is removed from an area, so is the ability to move clean water into an area and remove the sewage....among others.

So you're saying population density is bad? Cause stream on 10 acres of land is different than a stream of 10 acres of runoff.
 

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The only thing I know is that my boss had two children, twins to be exact have no issues and at the age of two they both received vaccines and now have protein and other immunity issues. Call it what you will but with near 7 billion people, there are bound to be people who don't take well to these things. Nothing, I repeat nothing, is ever 100%

And fapping causes myopia as proven by anecdotes of 12 year old boys needing glasses for the first time after they discover masturbation.
 

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Now please explain why death rates from infectious diseases were far higher prior to modern sanitation practices.

Why dont you stop trolling and contribute something?

It looks like autism is related to auto-immune disorders in the parents.

I wonder if autism is not indirectly related to vaccines. Or rather, as childhood diseases are being illuminated, the rates of autism are going up. What were the rates of autism in children of babyboomers. That boomers were rarely vaccinated against anything besides polio and smallpox. Generation X had low rates of autism.

Generation X received more vaccines than boomers. The children of X had higher rates of autism.

Generation Y was vaccinated for everything. The children of Y have the highest rates of autism out of all other previous generations.

Not that vaccines cause autism, but the lack of childhood diseases contribute to autoimmune conditions. The autoimmune conditions then contribute to autism.
 
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