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Fausto

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Originally posted by: dnuggett
Originally posted by: SammySon
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As an added side note I do not feel any negative thoughts towards homosexuals. I choose not to partake in the same belief system they hold, but I am not against them. I believe as a human being they have all the rights and worth that any other human has. My point was to show that there is a flaw in choosing that preference only, in that reproduction would cease if this group existed soley. That flaw does not exist in the opposite heterosexual preference.


*cough* choosing?




Yes choosing. I could choose to be homosexual for the rest of my life. I however choose to be heterosexual. Do not start this never ending loop of "it's not a choice"..... "is too". There is no conclusive proof either way at least that I have heard. Unless you care to enlighten us all....



Oh wow this is even more of a stupid comment than the first post in this thread


Please enlighten us as to how it is not a choice if this was a stupid comment.....
There are quite a few articles out there now dealing with this topic. I suppose I could search my history to find them, but I don't think I'll waste my time on that.

Your stance on homosexuals is clear. It's a whole load of bigotry masked by a thin veil of "acceptance of the choice of homosexual lifestyle".
The way you worded your statement could also lead me to ask if homosexuals should accept the choice made by heterosexuals.


You have absolutely no idea what bigotry means. I am not intolerant of homosexuals. I think it's funny how you must resort to putting me in a shameful light when all I asked was for you to explain yourself and you couldn't even do that.

Get a friggin clue.
I know what you're trying to say, but your position on homosexuality (the non-reproduction thing) is totally absurd. The same argument could be applied to all those who choose not to have kids (and I'd wager there are more non-child-bearing hetero couples than there are gay couples in the world). There are lots of other biological reasons people cannot/don't have kids as well, but they strangely haven't brought about the end of civilization yet (quite the opposite if you've looked at a chart of the world population lately) so why not just drop it? If everyone stopped eating, the world would end as well but it's not going to happen. The drive to eat is just as strong as the drive to have sex so a few anorexics aren't going to undermine the pillars of society any more than gay people will someone crash the world's population.


 

GermyBoy

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Originally posted by: damiano
I thought a different thread was apropriate to discuss this matter. I think that the problem is not gay marriage. In New York there is an act called domestic partnership that lets gay recognize in front of the state that they are together and let them have the same rights as married people (for health inssurance etc...). That' way enough !!! What I find wrong is for gays to adopt children...and it is the next step after gay marriage. there is no way this can be healthy for a child...

Neither is it cool where the parents decide to shove things up the rear ends of their children, to let them know that that is an option for them sexually.
 

Fausto

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Originally posted by: GermyBoy
Originally posted by: damiano
I thought a different thread was apropriate to discuss this matter. I think that the problem is not gay marriage. In New York there is an act called domestic partnership that lets gay recognize in front of the state that they are together and let them have the same rights as married people (for health inssurance etc...). That' way enough !!! What I find wrong is for gays to adopt children...and it is the next step after gay marriage. there is no way this can be healthy for a child...

Neither is it cool where the parents decide to shove things up the rear ends of their children, to let them know that that is an option for them sexually.
**Hereby nominated as the most ignorant statement of the week**

 

FeathersMcGraw

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Originally posted by: GermyBoy

Neither is it cool where the parents decide to shove things up the rear ends of their children, to let them know that that is an option for them sexually.

I'm sorry to hear that your parents weren't cool.
 

Wuffsunie

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Originally posted by: FeathersMcGraw
Originally posted by: GermyBoy
Neither is it cool where the parents decide to shove things up the rear ends of their children, to let them know that that is an option for them sexually.
I'm sorry to hear that your parents weren't cool.
0wned

 

Red Dawn

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Jun 4, 2001
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Originally posted by: Wuffsunie
Originally posted by: FeathersMcGraw
Originally posted by: GermyBoy
Neither is it cool where the parents decide to shove things up the rear ends of their children, to let them know that that is an option for them sexually.
I'm sorry to hear that your parents weren't cool.
0wned
Most definately!
 

OmegaRedd

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This current generation is the most mentally unstable in history due to the broken families and lack of moral guidance. A women and a man coming out of an unstable or abusive marriage can only hope to be ok parents. As a result 1/2 of all parents are divorced or not married at all.
To think children from these relationships will become well adjusted adults is wishful thinking at best and sheer lunacy at worst.
Adding sodomites to the equation will only make a bad situation worse, further weaking the already precarious mental health of our children.
I'm sure some wise a$$ will say there is nothing wrong with the current social climate but these individuals almost never had the benifit of seeing happy parents let alone grandparents.
It's very difficult to create a happy family without seeing one. So now I perceive any kind of family no matter how twisted has become acceptable.
There is a wong way and a right way to raise a healthy family and throwing away thousands of years of experience is the wrong way.:gift:
 

Ryan

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Originally posted by: OmegaRedd
This current generation is the most mentally unstable in history due to the broken families and lack of moral guidance. A women and a man coming out of an unstable or abusive marriage can only hope to be ok parents. As a result 1/2 of all parents are divorced or not married at all.
To think children from these relationships will become well adjusted adults is wishful thinking at best and sheer lunacy at worst.
Adding sodomites to the equation will only make a bad situation worse, further weaking the already precarious mental health of our children.
I'm sure some wise a$$ will say there is nothing wrong with the current social climate but these individuals almost never had the benifit of seeing happy parents let alone grandparents.
It's very difficult to create a happy family without seeing one. So now I perceive any kind of family no matter how twisted has become acceptable.
There is a wong way and a right way to raise a healthy family and throwing away thousands of years of experience is the wrong way.:gift:

Translation: I'm a closed-minded bigot who uses fallacious logic.
 

conjur

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Jun 7, 2001
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Originally posted by: OmegaRedd
This current generation is the most mentally unstable in history due to the broken families and lack of moral guidance.
I beg to differ. I think the current generation is the most mentally unstable due to the great amount of narrow-minded, bible-thumping, holier-than-thou bigots asserting pressure on the rest of society to conform to their high and mighty norms that are based upon some ancient book.

A women and a man coming out of an unstable or abusive marriage can only hope to be ok parents. As a result 1/2 of all parents are divorced or not married at all.
"As a result?" As a result of what? You're blaming a high divorce rate (which you pin at 50% with no evidence with which to back up your statement) on the fact that people entering marriage now are all from previous divorces? Hmm...wow. I can only assume you came from a broken home because you exhibit that mental instability you decry.

To think children from these relationships will become well adjusted adults is wishful thinking at best and sheer lunacy at worst.
Oh, how so? EVERY child from a divorce will be mentally unstable and unable to contribute to society? Wow...guess I should just go ahead and put a bullet to my brain and feed my daughters some Jim Jones Kool-Aid.

What a fool you are.

Adding sodomites to the equation will only make a bad situation worse, further weaking the already precarious mental health of our children.
Oooo....let's call them sodomites because we're, of course, of much higher moral calibre.


Again, go back and read through this thread and you'll even find links mentioning apparent homosexuality in the Bible itself.

I'm sure some wise a$$ will say there is nothing wrong with the current social climate but these individuals almost never had the benifit of seeing happy parents let alone grandparents.
It's very difficult to create a happy family without seeing one. So now I perceive any kind of family no matter how twisted has become acceptable.
There is a wong way and a right way to raise a healthy family and throwing away thousands of years of experience is the wrong way.:gift:
So, every heterosexual couple out there is a happy family?

Get off your high horse, take the blinders off, and see the real truth.
 

Wuffsunie

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Originally posted by: OmegaRedd
There is a wong way and a right way to raise a healthy family and throwing away thousands of years of experience is the wrong way.:gift:
Since you're a fan of the slippery slope argument, (as witnessed in the original gay marriage thread), what other institutions would you like to bring back that have been around thousands of years? There's slavery for starters; that'll certainly get you some cheap consumer goods. Sexism; no worries about equality in the work place or the wife stepping out of line. War; kill those that don't believe in what you do or to get their land. Monarchy; gets rid of a lot of bureaucratic mess and simplifies government decision making, not to mention removing all elements of politics from the life of the common man.

Not only have these conventions been around for thousands of years, but they have the added bonus of biblical approval.

So, anyway, that's your argument turned back on itself. As for your first point that the current generation is the most mentally unstable in history, that's likely true. I think it's mainly because ppl don't handle complexity well, though. And the world has just been getting more and more complex as time has gone on. 1000 years ago almost nothing beyond your local villiage affected you; 500 years ago you could lose your job because your employeer lost a cargo shipment to the colonies; today, some college kid in China can crash a major stock market with a computer program. In a lot of cases, people just can't mentally handle a global society.

Well, I also saw the theory put forward that monogomy is not inherient in humans and since we're living far longer than previous generations we're growing sick of our mates sooner and finding new ones. Or that our society drills into us the ideas of fire, passion, romance as the key (and almost sole) components of a relationship that when people find them lacking they go elsewhere to recover them.

Ah, fawk it, there are no easy answers, and I sure as hell don't have all of them.

-- Jack

People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid
-- Kierkegaard
 

conjur

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Jun 7, 2001
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Originally posted by: Wuffsunie
As for your first point that the current generation is the most mentally unstable in history, that's likely true. I think it's mainly because ppl don't handle complexity well, though. And the world has just been getting more and more complex as time has gone on. 1000 years ago almost nothing beyond your local villiage affected you; 500 years ago you could lose your job because your employeer lost a cargo shipment to the colonies; today, some college kid in China can crash a major stock market with a computer program. In a lot of cases, people just can't mentally handle a global society.

Well, that and modern science has debunked another biblical myth of people being possessed by demons. Chemical imbalances and emotional stress bringing about depression, alcoholism, etc. are now better understood and treatable with therapy and/or medication. No more of the "he's possessed by a demon!" mentality.
 

OmegaRedd

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Sep 14, 2003
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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: OmegaRedd
This current generation is the most mentally unstable in history due to the broken families and lack of moral guidance.
I beg to differ. I think the current generation is the most mentally unstable due to the great amount of narrow-minded, bible-thumping, holier-than-thou bigots asserting pressure on the rest of society to conform to their high and mighty norms that are based upon some ancient book.

A women and a man coming out of an unstable or abusive marriage can only hope to be ok parents. As a result 1/2 of all parents are divorced or not married at all.
"As a result?" As a result of what? You're blaming a high divorce rate (which you pin at 50% with no evidence with which to back up your statement) on the fact that people entering marriage now are all from previous divorces? Hmm...wow. I can only assume you came from a broken home because you exhibit that mental instability you decry.

To think children from these relationships will become well adjusted adults is wishful thinking at best and sheer lunacy at worst.
Oh, how so? EVERY child from a divorce will be mentally unstable and unable to contribute to society? Wow...guess I should just go ahead and put a bullet to my brain and feed my daughters some Jim Jones Kool-Aid.

What a fool you are.

Adding sodomites to the equation will only make a bad situation worse, further weaking the already precarious mental health of our children.
Oooo....let's call them sodomites because we're, of course, of much higher moral calibre.


Again, go back and read through this thread and you'll even find links mentioning apparent homosexuality in the Bible itself.

I'm sure some wise a$$ will say there is nothing wrong with the current social climate but these individuals almost never had the benifit of seeing happy parents let alone grandparents.
It's very difficult to create a happy family without seeing one. So now I perceive any kind of family no matter how twisted has become acceptable.
There is a wong way and a right way to raise a healthy family and throwing away thousands of years of experience is the wrong way.:gift:
So, every heterosexual couple out there is a happy family?

Get off your high horse, take the blinders off, and see the real truth.

The real truth is homo's are molested,maladjusted or genetic defects. Why do nearly all males find homo's disgusting have we all been brain washed?
Is sodomy the true path to procreation?
What if all males become "gay" and all females become dykes???
Who would makes children??
Would there be " gay " humans left 200 years from now??
How could that be ok???
Hey buttnut (( slaps conjur )) wake up time to go to school the little yellow cheese bus is here retard ROFL
 

Fausto

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Originally posted by: OmegaRedd
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: OmegaRedd
This current generation is the most mentally unstable in history due to the broken families and lack of moral guidance.
I beg to differ. I think the current generation is the most mentally unstable due to the great amount of narrow-minded, bible-thumping, holier-than-thou bigots asserting pressure on the rest of society to conform to their high and mighty norms that are based upon some ancient book.

A women and a man coming out of an unstable or abusive marriage can only hope to be ok parents. As a result 1/2 of all parents are divorced or not married at all.
"As a result?" As a result of what? You're blaming a high divorce rate (which you pin at 50% with no evidence with which to back up your statement) on the fact that people entering marriage now are all from previous divorces? Hmm...wow. I can only assume you came from a broken home because you exhibit that mental instability you decry.

To think children from these relationships will become well adjusted adults is wishful thinking at best and sheer lunacy at worst.
Oh, how so? EVERY child from a divorce will be mentally unstable and unable to contribute to society? Wow...guess I should just go ahead and put a bullet to my brain and feed my daughters some Jim Jones Kool-Aid.

What a fool you are.

Adding sodomites to the equation will only make a bad situation worse, further weaking the already precarious mental health of our children.
Oooo....let's call them sodomites because we're, of course, of much higher moral calibre.


Again, go back and read through this thread and you'll even find links mentioning apparent homosexuality in the Bible itself.

I'm sure some wise a$$ will say there is nothing wrong with the current social climate but these individuals almost never had the benifit of seeing happy parents let alone grandparents.
It's very difficult to create a happy family without seeing one. So now I perceive any kind of family no matter how twisted has become acceptable.
There is a wong way and a right way to raise a healthy family and throwing away thousands of years of experience is the wrong way.:gift:
So, every heterosexual couple out there is a happy family?

Get off your high horse, take the blinders off, and see the real truth.

The real truth is homo's are molested,maladjusted or genetic defects. Why do nearly all males find homo's disgusting have we all been brain washed?
Please provide peer-reviewed journal articles supporting the above assertions or STFU.
Is sodomy the true path to procreation?
Are tubal ligations and vasectomies?
What if all males become "gay" and all females become dykes???
What if all the guys moved to Eurasia and the women moved to the Americas? Not. Going. To. Happen.
Who would makes children??
Who would makes English? :Q
Would there be " gay " humans left 200 years from now??
Gay people have been around forever. Why hasn't your Gay Doomsday happened already?
How could that be ok???
How can you stand yourself?
Hey buttnut (( slaps conjur )) wake up time to go to school the little yellow cheese bus is here retard ROFL
I can see how you'd have memorized the short bus schedule by now after a lifetime of riding it.


 

OmegaRedd

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Hey Fausto what planet do you live on? Are you actually trying to tell yourself that sodomy is accepted by normal males??
Just like most morons you bring up worthless studies when the people have spoken. Get your head out conjur's a$$ and join the hetro's.
Face it sodomy is a fetish nothing more and a disgusting one not accepted by the world. So you and conjur put down the anal lube and stop fighting the hetro majority with your worthless studies.
Find a good women then maybe you'll see the light. Your jokes are " funny " just like you.
 

conjur

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Jun 7, 2001
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Originally posted by: damiano
Originally posted by: OmegaRedd
Hey Fausto ...

...Get your head out conjur's a$$

lol

heh...I'm calling troll on the part of OmegaRedd.

NO one is that idiotic unless they're trying to be on purpose.

Besides, anyone whose spelling is THAT atrocious deserves no more attention.
 
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