Fry's Athlon 64 X2 4200+ & ECS GeForce7050M-M

astrosfan315

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that's sick. I guess I can reasonably upgrade my son's PIII couple this with some $25-$30 DDR2 and you're golden.
 

skillyho

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Anyone that wants to help a geek out.........Would you pick this up for me? I have a new copy of DMC4 I can give with cash for the trade.........

Just sayin....
 

zeroidea

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Be sure to save your receipt, so that when the ECS motherboard dies it can be RMA'd..
 

scgt1

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yea ecs are crap ass boards, but your paying for the cpu here anyway. I got a 754 combo right before 939 came out from frys for this same price I think. The nic card died 2 weeks later. LOL didn't bother returning or rmaing it just pickup up a gigabyte board and never had any problems out of it.
 

DefDC

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I've picked up about a dozen of these combos in the last few years, and have only had one bad mobo. I think ECS quality has improved at least a little bit.

(I have to have my family on the west coast mail me the combos, so I can't pick up for anyone...)
 

PottedMeat

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Originally posted by: TallPilot
I've never had a problem with ECS boards

I have. Had a K7VZA with a bios that would cause bad OS installs and IDE errors ~95% of the time. If you were lucky you got the OS to install and even then there were random shutdowns. At least with the next bios revision the board was rock solid and even ran an AXP2400+ that my ASUS couldn't.

I think I may get this deal - missed out on the Easter E2200 combo board Fry's had for $79.99.

 

Rockhound1

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I am still running an ECS K7VTA3 with an Athlon XP Barton 3000+ in one of my systems. This board has been rock solid since day-1 and just keeps on going...
 

cubeless

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every mfg has some boards that fail... i'm typing this on a 6 year old k7s5a, and it's one of 2 i still have running... ecs has sold a shiite of each of these mobos, there's going to be a few bad ones...

i have 2 other ecs/frys deal combos that are running at their (limited) oc max for many months...

i've built about 10 pc's with ecs stuff, and had trouble only with one (and i think that maybe newegg sent me an open box that they got back from someone on that one...)...

be careful at frys that u get a brand new kit... they are real bad about wrapping stuff that's been out (and maybe f'd up) back up and putting it back on the shelf...
 

magomago

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I have aK7s5a that is still running strong. ECS for me is synonymous with "still thing will run fine, but proceed to rip out your hair if you want to overclock". Otherwise the same bad image from 6 years ago doesn't apply - things are MUCH better today.

That said I saw this elsewhere and picked it up. If I go back to frys for whatever reason, I'll let some of you know and get you those combos (although I would ask you pay for shipping and whatever packing materials I'd have to send it in As well as split the gallon of gas it takes me to get there and come back)
 

esquared

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Yep, count me as an ECS supporter as well . I've built probably 60-70 computers over the last 6-7 years with ECS combos from Fry's. I still have a K7S5A pro going strong along with several K&VTA3's as well. I also have the 755A2 which was my first A64 built in 2004. This 6100PM-M2 mother board is nice as well. I have two systems built with this, one as an HTPC computer.

No one ever claimed that ECS was good for overclocking, they're not. They are just good, solid boards. I build for work, friends and family who just need a solid computer without any extras. These fit the bill. As a matter of fact, I have had a greater percentage break from using other motherboard manufactures over the years, Abit, ASUS, MSI to name a few.


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I went to look at this yesterday and it's a tray CPU not a boxed retail CPU with a HS/fan.
 

jrichrds

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My experience with ECS boards in the past couple of years is that if they're bad, they're bad out of the box. Otherwise, they've run solid for me.

And some of the cheap ECS boards I've gotten from Fry's have overclocked very well with just FSB adjustments (vs. other better-name boards which needed voltage increase to achieve the same speed). I'm hoping the Geforce 6100PM-M2 is one of them.

Has anyone overclocked using this Geforce 6100PM-M2 yet? What were your results?
 

jiffer

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This combo includes a tray processor with the Brisbane core, part number ADO4200IAA5DO. I prefer the 4400+ because the memory is underclocked less (due to a ratio issue I don't have time to explain), but this is a great price for a 4200+ combo.

I haven't had a chance to fully test a GEFORCE6100PM-M2, but I think I'm going to like it a lot, especially considering the price I pay for it when I buy a combo like this. I like ECS products in general. It's true that they don't always use the highest quality components (very few manufacturers do so all the time, or without charging an arm and a leg), but their manufacturing quality is excellent. The traces are clean, the solder points are nearly perfect, and their reliability is solid.

Out of 200+ samples, I've only seen two ECS motherboards that had any real problems. Compared to the number of Asus, Gigabyte, and Soyo products I've had to return, our success rate with ECS products is phenomenal. In one case, the parallel port didn't work. (It was detected by the BIOS and the OS, so it must have been a physical problem.) In the other case, the automatic fan control could not be enabled in the BIOS (the option was visible but greyed out). Every other problem that our customers have reported has been the result of ignorance and/or user error.

- One customer damaged a motherboard because the PS/2 mouse he plugged into it had bent pins, which caused a short and caused a couple of components to burn up. He said his keyboard wouldn't work. (It was on a related circuit.)

- One customer glued the LGA775 CPU cooler to the motherboard with SuperGlue and got glue all over the back of the motherboard. When he tried to clean it off, he broke several traces. He told us he couldn't get the motherboard to work.

- One customer said a "technician" had told him that the motherboard was "dead". (The "technician" actually does software tech support.) He claimed that the CPU was originally not inserted all the way, which was impossible because the CPU cooler was mounted correctly when we shipped it to him. More likely, he pulled the CPU out of the socket when he removed the CPU cooler because the thermal compound was stuck to it. When I tested the motherboard, I found absolutely nothing wrong with it. There's no telling what the customer was doing wrong, since there are so many possibilities.

- One customer returned a computer to us because the onboard video was disabled in the BIOS, and the display wouldn't work when she removed the video card.

- One customer returned a computer to us that a "technician" had worked on. Someone had replaced the memory with a dead stick of memory (and kept the one we had installed) and replaced the floppy drive with a dead floppy drive. The customer also complained that the USB ports on the front of the computer case didn't work, which was understandable since they were unplugged. The customer demanded his money back from us.

- Several customers plugged in their floppy drive power connectors the wrong way, so their computers wouldn't boot. (The power supply protection circuitry was doing its job.) They blamed the motherboards and thought they were "dead".

- One customer mounted the CPU cooler the wrong way on a Socket 462 motherboard, preventing it from making contact with the CPU, so the CPU overheated and died. (There's a notch in that type of heatsink, and it must be oriented the right way.)

- A couple of customers reported data corruption problems when they tried to use DDR2 memory that required at least 2.1 Volts. (Standard DDR2 memory uses 1.8 Volts.) In one case, the customer didn't notice the setting in the BIOS that permits voltage increases up to 0.3 Volts on that particular motherboard.

- Several people reported problems that were really the result of software or OS problems that had nothing to do with the motherboard. For example, back in 1995, one customer reported that Lotus couldn't use all of the system memory in the computer we had sold him, so the memory must be bad. (I thought that was a strange way to diagnose a hardware problem myself.) The problem was that he had copied the program from another computer (instead of installing it properly with original media) and it was previously configured to use less than the total amount of system memory. In other words, it was actually doing what it was supposed to do. And of course, other people blamed their problems on the hardware we had sold them when their computers were infected with viruses, trojans, worms, etc.

- A couple of customers were outraged because they couldn't get better overclocking results. One of them said the motherboard "sucks" and the other one said it was "the most horrible piece of crap he had ever seen".

I'll let you draw your own conclusions about the nature of ECS motherboards. By the way, ECS manufactures motherboards for other companies such as Abit, so I guess you need to be wary of their products, as well.

On the other hand, perhaps you would feel better about using an ECS motherboard if you could see how one is made. Here are a couple of articles you might enjoy:

http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=1288
http://www.bit-tech.net/bits/2...n_zhen_factory_tours/1

This quote from the Hexus article is very interesting:

"Did you know that ECS make more mainboards than anyone else? Thought ASUS was the biggest mainboard vendor on the planet? Well they are, but only in terms of sales of their own branded boards. If you were to add up all the sales of all the boards ECS make for themselves and for their customers, ASUS would look a wee bit weak in comparison. The chances are that you've sat down at a PC with an ECS-produced mainboard in it more than once in your life, whether you realise it or not."

In other words, the non-ECS-branded motherboard you're using might be crap and you just don't know it.
 

0roo0roo

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Originally posted by: TallPilot
I've never had a problem with ECS boards

yea running fine on one here.

just don't try doing something stupid ilke overclocking and u'll be fine.
been using ecs since the k7s5a days, the qualities improved a bit, i dont think its anything to worry about these days..mostly pebcak problems now. even on board video is pretty decent now. for anything other than gaming its actually decent.
 

hans007

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i dont think ecs boards have been particularly unreliable, since back in the socket A days. especially with the VIA and SIS boards that were for super cheap systems.
 

Rockhound1

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Originally posted by: Wedge1
Is this in-store only?

Yes, this is an in-store only deal. Fry's is also running a combo deal with this same motherboard and a X2 5600+ processor for $104.99. I am really thinking about grabbing this one. The 5600+ has 1MB cache per core and runs at 2.8 GHz. The processor retails for $139 at Newegg, but then I am sure this is a tray processor (i.e., no heatsink/fan and only 1 year warranty). Still a really good deal if you want something with a little more horsepower than the x2 4200+.
 

ghost recon88

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Originally posted by: TrueBlueLS
Frys needs to come to Michigan. Microcenter is okay... but nothing special.

+1

We need one in the Lansing area. Microcenter is a 2 hour drive each way for me.
 

esquared

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Originally posted by: Rockhound1
Originally posted by: Wedge1
Is this in-store only?

Yes, this is an in-store only deal. Fry's is also running a combo deal with this same motherboard and a X2 5600+ processor for $104.99. I am really thinking about grabbing this one. The 5600+ has 1MB cache per core and runs at 2.8 GHz. The processor retails for $139 at Newegg, but then I am sure this is a tray processor (i.e., no heatsink/fan and only 1 year warranty). Still a really good deal if you want something with a little more horsepower than the x2 4200+.

Is that in the Texas ad only? I don't see it in the Bayarea Fry's ad. That's a good deal and I would pick it up instead of the 4200+ combo.
 

Rockhound1

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Originally posted by: esquared
Originally posted by: Rockhound1
Originally posted by: Wedge1
Is this in-store only?

Yes, this is an in-store only deal. Fry's is also running a combo deal with this same motherboard and a X2 5600+ processor for $104.99. I am really thinking about grabbing this one. The 5600+ has 1MB cache per core and runs at 2.8 GHz. The processor retails for $139 at Newegg, but then I am sure this is a tray processor (i.e., no heatsink/fan and only 1 year warranty). Still a really good deal if you want something with a little more horsepower than the x2 4200+.

Is that in the Texas ad only? I don't see it in the Bayarea Fry's ad. That's a good deal and I would pick it up instead of the 4200+ combo.

It was in our Saturday advertisement. Prices good through Tusday...
 
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