Fry's EVGA 8800GT Vanilla = Superclocked Version???

photogearjunkie

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I got my Fry's EVGA 8800GT for $229. This is supposed to be the standard, non-overclocked version of the card. However, when I checked the GPU and Memory clock speeds, they match what the EVGA SC version of the card (GPU = 650, Memory = 950). Can anyone else confirm this?

Also, the fan does NOT spin up on this card. I ran RTHDR and got the temps up to 100°C, but the fan speed never increased. I wonder if the BIOS that came on this card is hosed.

Any ideas???
 

aka1nas

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The fan speed thing is a driver bug AFAIK, use ntune or Rivatuner to increase the fan speed for now.
 

JustaGeek

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The fan in my BFG works fine, reaching about ~2400RPM under load. The temps reach ~87C in Crysis Demo.

All temps/fan speeds reported by Everest/Logitech G15 LCD.
 

Syntax Error

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I have the same situation as the OP; the clock speeds were 650 core and 950 memory, which are the SC speeds. Riva Tuner 2.06, ATI Tools, and Ntune confirm this.

Did we get the SC versions? I'm not complaining, as that'd be a nice bonus.

As for the fan issue, this seems to be a driver issue; I just set a fan profile for 60% under load and it does fine, reaching reaching around 80-85C under load.
 

P229SAS

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I ordered directly from eVGA's site and the same thing happened to me. The box is clearly that of the base model but when I checked the speeds with those programs it is clocked identical to the Superclocked version.
 

secretanchitman

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hmm...i should see my friends card to see if he has the same thing. he has an evga one as well.

dont worry guys, any overclocking you do is totally covered by evga....even if overclock it too much.
 

taltamir

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OOooh.... thats a really nice tidbit there... buy the stock evga GT and hope you get a SC in the stock box... thats really nice

I guess they made a little oopsie.
 

QuixoticOne

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Originally posted by: taltamir
OOooh.... thats a really nice tidbit there... buy the stock evga GT and hope you get a SC in the stock box... thats really nice

I guess they made a little oopsie.


Perhaps (I'll know about mine on Monday), but the MAJOR question is:
what's the NATURE of the OOPS?

1) OOPS we didn't have enough non-SC hardware, so we sent out hardware
that was SC certified / tested and a BIOS to match?

or (worse)

2) OOPS we took generic non-SC boards, put the wrong BIOS settings on them,
and the BIOS will *try* to run them at SC speeds. Will they be STABLE at those
speeds with good temperatures? We don't know, we didn't test them for that.

or (best)

3) Well the BIOS defaults may be SC, but there's really no such thing as a
"SC" capable board vs. a "non SC" capable board -- they should ALL just work
100% at that level of 'overclock' we don't have to test them to ensure that
because that's what our engineers and NVIDIA's designed them to work around.
So basically ANYONE could use a tuner application to run stably at those
frequencies no problems no matter what board / BIOS they get.

I'm inclined to believe the answer is somewhere between #2 and #3 -- MOST
generic model boards can PROBABLY be overclocked to those levels and be
stable, though maybe there will be real problems (perhaps even at STOCK speeds)
with some people's systems due to inadequate case air cooling. These 8800GTs
only have a single slot cooler and that's probably kind of marginal at cooling the
heat load even at STOCK speed especially in cases with low airflow and cramped
interiors.

We'll have to see how many people hit red-alert level temperatures with these
new 8800GTs under heavy loads like playing lots of Crysis at high res. in
small mid-tower cases.... Those people will most certainly NOT want an
overclocked 'by default' card, but the real problem is mainly their case / PSU.



 

SRoode

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The same thing happened to me (I think I posted it on another thread). Bought a vanilla 8800GT at a brick and mortar Fry's last week and it turned out to be 650/950. I also have the problem with the fan not spinning up, but I just set it to 50% when gaming (See my thread on 8800GT fan speed vs. temperatures).

I'm definitely not complaining!
 

photogearjunkie

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Thanks for the confirmations everyone. I'm anxious to hear some type of official response to this.

I'm gonna strap a Zalman VF900Cu on this, with ramsinks, and sime microcool mini heatsinks on the mosfets. This should drop temps quite a bit.
 

Syntax Error

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Yeah, I'm waiting to see which aftermarket coolers perform the best with this card before getting one, let us know how it goes. :]
 

QuixoticOne

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My EVGA 8800GT from the Fry's preorder also seems to run at
650 core, 950 memory
by default.

I haven't really been able to test its stability at those speeds (under demanding loads)
yet since I have no way using LINUX yet to fix the fan problem so that it'd keep
reasonable temperatures during full load.

Hopefully there will be a fixed driver or BIOS that will make the fan work properly soon.

 

John

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Originally posted by: Syntax Error
Yeah, I'm waiting to see which aftermarket coolers perform the best with this card before getting one, let us know how it goes. :]

The VF1000 dropped my idle temps 15C and load temps 40C. :thumbsup:
 

n7

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I had my buddy over here testing his BFG 8800 GT.

Temps are not an issue if you set up fan profiles w/ Rivatuner.

His problem ended up being that his vRAM was not stable @ the BFG's 900/1800
We ended up having to underclock the memory for stability...he may RMA when he has time.
 

Raider1284

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Originally posted by: SRoode
The same thing happened to me (I think I posted it on another thread). Bought a vanilla 8800GT at a brick and mortar Fry's last week and it turned out to be 650/950. I also have the problem with the fan not spinning up.

Thought I would add that my evga card from FRYs is overclocked to these specs as well. If they made a "mistake" they must have made alot of them

As for aftermarket coolers; my duOrb brought my temps WAY down.

At default speeds with stock cooler: 60 idle / 105C load
At 725/1810/1950 with duOrb: 40 idle / 60C load

 

Matt2

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Same thing happened to me when I stepped up from a 7800GT to a 7900GT. Got the CO in the stock box.

Check your model numbers on the sticker on the card. The # should tell you if you got a certified SC card or a stock card with the wrong BIOS.
 

John

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Originally posted by: n7
Temps are not an issue if you set up fan profiles w/ Rivatuner.
In my experience even with the fan @ 100% in RT my load temps were over 100C with the stock cooler.


Originally posted by: Raider1284
As for aftermarket coolers; my duOrb brought my temps WAY down.

At default speeds with stock cooler: 60 idle / 105C load
At 725/1810/1950 with duOrb: 40 idle / 60C load
It looks like the DuOrb is just as efficient as the VF1000 for about $10 less.

 
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