Fscking surveyors!!!!!

[Ryan]

Originally posted by: MisterJackson

Originally posted by: Ryan

Originally posted by: MisterJackson
It's not the surveyors fault, it's whoever ordered the job.......you didn't have to be a prick to them, it's just their job.

They could have knocked on my door this morning while they were surveying the property next to my house, and let me know they were just going to walk into my backyard. I would think that's common courtesy

If you aren't home when your house catches on fire I sure hope the fire department knows they better wait on you to give them permission first....:roll:


My point was, you didn't need to be a d1ck about it. I would have been purterbed too, but I would have found the cheif of the crew and POLITELY asked him to cease work on my property. Those guys run into people like you all of the time, they're not looking to start a fight with you. Hell, if anything, that means they make more money because they will come back later and complete the job probably billing for it again.

Common courtesy seems to be a dying thing around here.

That's an apples to oranges comparison :roll:

 

[MisterJackson]

Originally posted by: Ryan

Originally posted by: MisterJackson

Originally posted by: Ryan

Originally posted by: MisterJackson
It's not the surveyors fault, it's whoever ordered the job.......you didn't have to be a prick to them, it's just their job.

They could have knocked on my door this morning while they were surveying the property next to my house, and let me know they were just going to walk into my backyard. I would think that's common courtesy

If you aren't home when your house catches on fire I sure hope the fire department knows they better wait on you to give them permission first....:roll:


My point was, you didn't need to be a d1ck about it. I would have been purterbed too, but I would have found the cheif of the crew and POLITELY asked him to cease work on my property. Those guys run into people like you all of the time, they're not looking to start a fight with you. Hell, if anything, that means they make more money because they will come back later and complete the job probably billing for it again.

Common courtesy seems to be a dying thing around here.

That's an apples to oranges comparison :roll:

which reminds me, it's time for lunch.

 

[dullard]

I'm going to side with those who wonder what you have to gain by being rude. Will the facts from the surveying harm your case? What if it would help your case and end the dispute, but you just lost your chance?

Yes, they should have called you first. But two wrongs don't make a right. You should have let them do their job. Angering everyone involved won't help this whole battle, in fact it might have just gotten much worse for you because of it.

 

[woowoo]

Originally posted by: Ryan

Originally posted by: woowoo
If they were working on an easment, you might get a bill for your actions......

As far as I know, there is no easement on the property.

So you don't use electricity?
Natural gas?
Sewer line?
Cable?
Water?

In america you don't really own land, you pay for the right to take care of it.

 

[darrenford]

I side with the homeowner. This house was bought in good faith, now the builder has a problem and is trying to dump some new rules on him after the deal was done. Ryan (or his parents) have every right to refuse this new deal as it does nothing for them, and from the sound of it, would have kept them from making the deal in the first place. They have offered the builder the opportunity to buy back the property at current market value.

Do you think if the builder bought it back at the original price he would turn around and sell it for that? Do you not think the homeowner is due something for the aggravation? Would you like to deal with all of the crap involved in buying a house, moving in, and in a year move out (and go through the crap of buying another) all for nothing?

The story as told puts Ryan in the right. He also owes no curtesy to the builder who is basically trying to screw him. I would have been mad that they were there, although I would have probably just told them to leave without being mean, but the first time they said something other than ok we are getting out of here as fast as we can, I would have gotten ugly just like Ryan did.

*ITS NOT THEIR PROPERTY*, those of you who compared this to a meter reader or fire department are way off base in my opinion.

 

[MisterJackson]

Originally posted by: darrenford
I side with the homeowner. This house was bought in good faith, now the builder has a problem and is trying to dump some new rules on him after the deal was done. Ryan (or his parents) have every right to refuse this new deal as it does nothing for them, and from the sound of it, would have kept them from making the deal in the first place. They have offered the builder the opportunity to buy back the property at current market value.

Do you think if the builder bought it back at the original price he would turn around and sell it for that? Do you not think the homeowner is due something for the aggravation? Would you like to deal with all of the crap involved in buying a house, moving in, and in a year move out (and go through the crap of buying another) all for nothing?

The story as told puts Ryan in the right. He also owes no curtesy to the builder who is basically trying to screw him. I would have been mad that they were there, although I would have probably just told them to leave without being mean, but the first time they said something other than ok we are getting out of here as fast as we can, I would have gotten ugly just like Ryan did.

*ITS NOT THEIR PROPERTY*, those of you who compared this to a meter reader or fire department are way off base in my opinion.

The fire dept. thing was just a jab at the OP. As for you "siding with him", well I don't think anyone here disagrees with his stance with the BUILDER. That's not the issue.

The issue is the SURVEYORS are just told "Here's where I need you to go and survey.". It's just a job to them.

It's like someone coming in where you work and taking out their frustrations on you personally when their beef is with the company.

Again, it's called common courtesy. I like you would have been upset, but approached them in a nice manner. Had they refused to leave, then yes, it's time to get ugly.

 

[lozina]

Originally posted by: Cooler

Originally posted by: MisterJackson
It's not the surveyors fault, it's whoever ordered the job.......you didn't have to be a prick to them, it's just their job.

agreed.

I would have asked them who told them to do that then pick up phone call an yell at them. These guys seem to be doing just their job.

nah, yelling at them is good because now these guys will be mad at whoever hired them for putting them in such a position.

 

[VirginiaDonkey]

How can you get clear title on property that does not have a proper survey?

 

[AdamSnow]

Originally posted by: MisterJackson
It's not the surveyors fault, it's whoever ordered the job.......you didn't have to be a prick to them, it's just their job.

I was going to post that if it had not already been posted.

You sir, get a

 

[Ryan]

Originally posted by: VirginiaDonkey
How can you get clear title on property that does not have a proper survey?

The original property survey had descrepencies (which was done in the summer of 04 before purchasing the house in August 04) - my house was surveyed correctly last year.

As far as being rude - it wasn't like I ran outside yelling at them. I came home to a bunch of people in my backyard, asked them what they were doing and who gave them authorization to come into my fenced in back yard, then the guys started telling me that they were just doing their job rather than answering that question.

It wasn't until that point that I that I told them to get fsck off the property. I came home to a group of people who decided to invite themselves into my back yard, what was I supposed to do - throw them a fscking tea party?

 

[alfa147x]

YEAH "Fscking surveyors!!!!!"

 

[Garet Jax]

Originally posted by: Ryan
I just got home to find my yard covered in surveyors who were surveying it. My family is in a legal dispute with the builders of our townhouse, and for some reason the builders wanted to survey the land.

Nevermind the fact that my family owns the house, the land, and we have no shared land agreements with the fvckers. I told them to get the fsck off the property or I'd call the cops, got a lock out, and locked up my back yard.

If the developer wanted to survey the property - they had the ability to pick the phone up and ask me. :| Do they think they are above the law and can rightfully trespass? ARRRGGGG.

</crappy vent>

As has been said to me numerous times, if you think you own the land, try not paying property taxes and see who really owns it.

 

[HeroOfPellinor]

You know how expensive a survey is? That would be a spectacular opportunity to get your lot lines perfectly deliniated. But you had to take the opportunity to be a big shot. :thumbsup:

FWIW, if anybody wants to pay for a survey job, you have my full permission to have them show up at any time any day. I'll just move all my valueables out of the backyard and back into my house.

 

[MisterJackson]

Originally posted by: AdamSnow

Originally posted by: MisterJackson
It's not the surveyors fault, it's whoever ordered the job.......you didn't have to be a prick to them, it's just their job.

I was going to post that if it had not already been posted.

You sir, get a

Thank you kind sir, I take your offered cookie and go to hunt for a glass of milk.

 

[buffdawg]

FWIW, here in Oklahoma it's illegal to interfere with a survey crew (even if it's on your property). If someone gets in our face while we're on a job we have a laminated notarized card referencing the state statute. If they still don't back down we just call the county sheriff and he comes out and sticks around until the job is done. If it takes considerably longer to complete the survey, our client can sue the property owner for the extra costs that came from interfering with the crew.

Again, that's just how it is here...I'm sure the rules vary greatly from state to state.

 

[Linflas]

Originally posted by: buffdawg
FWIW, here in Oklahoma it's illegal to interfere with a survey crew (even if it's on your property). If someone gets in our face while we're on a job we have a laminated notarized card referencing the state statute. If they still don't back down we just call the county sheriff and he comes out and sticks around until the job is done. If it takes considerably longer to complete the survey, our client can sue the property owner for the extra costs that came from interfering with the crew.

Again, that's just how it is here...I'm sure the rules vary greatly from state to state.

Interesting...About 1/2 of the states evidently don't respect property rights when it comes to surveying.

This links to a PDF. If you hate PDFs don't click.

 

[MisterJackson]

Originally posted by: Linflas

Originally posted by: buffdawg
FWIW, here in Oklahoma it's illegal to interfere with a survey crew (even if it's on your property). If someone gets in our face while we're on a job we have a laminated notarized card referencing the state statute. If they still don't back down we just call the county sheriff and he comes out and sticks around until the job is done. If it takes considerably longer to complete the survey, our client can sue the property owner for the extra costs that came from interfering with the crew.

Again, that's just how it is here...I'm sure the rules vary greatly from state to state.

Interesting...About 1/2 of the states evidently don't respect property rights when it comes to surveying.

This links to a PDF. If you hate PDFs don't click.

You're funny.

 

[alm4rr]

implied reciprocal negative easement?