Bullshit, and I voted for Sanders. The primary results didn't matter one tiny bit. The Democratic nominee would have been shredded no matter what. America is more scared of socialism than they are of Nazis.
Bullshit, and I voted for Sanders. The primary results didn't matter one tiny bit. The Democratic nominee would have been shredded no matter what. America is more scared of socialism than they are of Nazis.I agree with this and it's very important but my guess is that those who did vote for Clinton over Sanders over the message thingi just plain feel their egos are under attack as if they are guilty of something. They are guilty of putting Trump in office, The question is how do you tell people they screwed up in the past, don't do it next time, without them feeling their being guilt tripped by a personal attacks. People are shockingly defensive. This whole nation is guilty of having a President Trump. It's nobody's fault because only the awake can be guilty of anything.
The problem with your analogy here is that when a battered spouse runs back, her abusive husband doesn't get to beat the shit out of America.Great efforts are being made in our society to inform and protect battered wives from spousal abuse. It's done by liberals. Some still run back but the situation is improving. But go sit on your hands. You need more grieving. You hit a bump and your reaction is to turn tail and run. You are a smart guy, a disappointed lover who can learn to love again. I fully support your bellyaching. I have just known for decades that people hate themselves and it's self destructive. I've done a whole lot of crying myself. Love you.
Dank, you don't know if Sanders would have lost. No one will ever know. All you have is the certainty of your opinion. I remember well what the opinions were of Trump becoming president the day he announced and I knew he would win at least the Republican nomination. One in perhaps thousands thought as I did, but I was right and my opinion was that only Sanders would be able to beat him. If you find a problem with the analogy you chose about battered women, pick one that isn't flawed. The fact of worldwide movement to more liberal thinking is documented. Attitude, my friend, has emotional repercussions. You give up in the face of disappointment. You allow that to color your world view. All hate is self hate.
If you or I can't somebody else will.
It wouldn't have mattered even if Sanders won. Democrats were supposed to make gains in the House and possibly even take back the Senate. Instead, they lost ground. 2018 is set up for them to lose even more. If Sanders or Hillary were in the WH America would have their scapegoat for all their ills and the remedy would be to remove them in 2020.Dank, you don't know if Sanders would have lost. No one will ever know. All you have is the certainty of your opinion. I remember well what the opinions were of Trump becoming president the day he announced and I knew he would win at least the Republican nomination. One in perhaps thousands thought as I did, but I was right and my opinion was that only Sanders would be able to beat him. If you find a problem with the analogy you chose about battered women, pick one that isn't flawed. The fact of worldwide movement to more liberal thinking is documented. Attitude, my friend, has emotional repercussions. You give up in the face of disappointment. You allow that to color your world view. All hate is self hate.
If you or I can't somebody else will.
Welcome to the real world. People who condemn others who hate themselves for being interested only in their own personal needs and see anybody else's need as competition, does not see that he or she also must hate themselves, because, in order to hate it out there, that has to be the feeling you secretly have yourself. If you have contempt for the selfishness of machines that have been programmed to think only of themselves, it is because you were programmed by contempt for your own selfishness some where in the past. These just appear to those without the willingness to recognize their own monster within, will project that monster out there where it also is, but not see it within themselves, and in order not to see it in themselves. The worthlessness we see in the world is the worthlessness we feel in ourselves.Anyone that thinks the world is too PC is defacto conservative no matter what they self identify as and anyone that thinks the Democrats are the party of minorities and women is a muppet and probably a misogynist/racist, whether consciously or unconsciously. The GOP treats minorities and women like shit. The Democrats say that is bad. In order to interpret that stance as "Democrats care about minorities and women instead of me" the person has to be operating from the perspective that helping those people must be hurting everyone else.
These are opinions you have based on feelings. I do not share those opinions by I understand they may be right. I do however also feel they may be wrong. I welcome you expressing them but there is little I can do to refute them because of the hypothetical. Sanders didn't win.It wouldn't have mattered even if Sanders won. Democrats were supposed to make gains in the House and possibly even take back the Senate. Instead, they lost ground. 2018 is set up for them to lose even more. If Sanders or Hillary were in the WH America would have their scapegoat for all their ills and the remedy would be to remove them in 2020.
It doesn't matter if the world is getting more liberal. I highly doubt America is, or if they are, it is at a snail's pace compared to most everyone else. Maybe the liberals will have some actual power in 2100, but what will be left by then?
Just like there is little I can do to refute your claim that Sanders would have won against Trump.These are opinions you have based on feelings. I do not share those opinions by I understand they may be right. I do however also feel they may be wrong. I welcome you expressing them but there is little I can do to refute them because of the hypothetical. Sanders didn't win.
Exactly, and I had going for me my predictions of a Trump win from the day he announced. It's hard for me to think I was wrong when I was always right about him: Check this out; it's what I saw coming:Just like there is little I can do to refute your claim that Sanders would have won against Trump.
Yes, you were right that America is sicker than any of us imagined. I'm not sure how that translates into "we should keep trying."Exactly, and I had going for me my predictions of a Trump win from the day he announced. It's hard for me to think I was wrong when I was always right about him: Check this out; it's what I saw coming:
http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/06/politics/hillary-clinton-memoir/index.html
Bullshit, and I voted for Sanders. The primary results didn't matter one tiny bit. The Democratic nominee would have been shredded no matter what. America is more scared of socialism than they are of Nazis.
Exactly, and I had going for me my predictions of a Trump win from the day he announced. It's hard for me to think I was wrong when I was always right about him: Check this out; it's what I saw coming:
http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/06/politics/hillary-clinton-memoir/index.html
The intention to keep trying is not a product of will but a result of attitude. When the attitude to seek happiness for all sentient beings is present, the will is like a heliotrope to follow the sun. It's a natural organic orientation. My point that things have been and are much worse that you may yet imagine was only mentioned because knowledge of it doesn't change the intention. All that has to happen to save others is a change in attitude. We are all saved. It is just better knowing it.Yes, you were right that America is sicker than any of us imagined. I'm not sure how that translates into "we should keep trying."
The intention to keep trying is not a product of will but a result of attitude. When the attitude to seek happiness for all sentient beings is present, the will is like a heliotrope to follow the sun. It's a natural organic orientation. My point that things have been and are much worse that you may yet imagine was only mentioned because knowledge of it doesn't change the intention. All that has to happen to save others is a change in attitude. We are all saved. It is just better knowing it.