Full time student and have a full time job

[Fullmetal Chocobo]

I'm working full time and going to school part time, and it is rough enough. Having insomnia doesn't help though. I'm looking forward to just going to school full time eventually though.

 

[Xavier434]

Originally posted by: Wreckem

Originally posted by: Deeko

Originally posted by: Xavier434

Originally posted by: Deeko

Originally posted by: Acanthus
I move that its impossible as a science major to work full time and not drive your grades down.

meh...good thing grades don't really have much of an impact in the real world.

They do if you plan to get a higher education or want to apply for scholarships.

Most scholarships I've seen aren't THAT strict with GPA - and I was acecpted at all the grad schools I've applied to so far (one still pending).

Not to mention grad schools tend to like candidates who worked during undergrad.

Deeko: I think it really depends on what your opinion of "strict" actually means.

Acanthus: I thought they only really cared if you worked a more respected job or internship? I didn't think they cared much about jobs such as waiting tables or retail.

 

[Specop 007]

I was doing full time college, full time work and we had a newborn baby.

It really sucked. I hated it.

 

[Deeko]

Originally posted by: Xavier434

Deeko: I think it really depends on what your opinion of "strict" actually means.

Acanthus: I thought they only really cared if you worked a more respected job or internship? I didn't think they cared much about jobs such as waiting tables or retail.

Most scholarships I've seen ranged from a minimum of 2.8-3.4. Mine was 3.0.

Obviously have a relevant job is what important - you learn so much more in the "real world" than you do by spending an extra hour a night studying.

 

[Xavier434]

Originally posted by: Deeko

Originally posted by: Xavier434

Deeko: I think it really depends on what your opinion of "strict" actually means.

Acanthus: I thought they only really cared if you worked a more respected job or internship? I didn't think they cared much about jobs such as waiting tables or retail.

Most scholarships I've seen ranged from a minimum of 2.8-3.4. Mine was 3.0.

Obviously have a relevant job is what important - you learn so much more in the "real world" than you do by spending an extra hour a night studying.

2.8-3.4 might be the minimum reqs to submit an application but are you actually competitive without having a 3.5 or higher? I never applied for them since I had no plans for grad school so I really don't know.

In regards to the job, most people who talk about working a 30-40 week job in college are not working on something relative to their career. There are exceptions of course but they are a minority. Most are just working some crap job to pay the bills. I chose to take loans instead of doing that because I didn't want my college experience to vastly consist of working and academics alone which was the point of my original post.

 

[imported_Lothar]

Originally posted by: Wreckem

Originally posted by: Deeko

Originally posted by: Xavier434

Originally posted by: Deeko

Originally posted by: Acanthus
I move that its impossible as a science major to work full time and not drive your grades down.

meh...good thing grades don't really have much of an impact in the real world.

They do if you plan to get a higher education or want to apply for scholarships.

Most scholarships I've seen aren't THAT strict with GPA - and I was acecpted at all the grad schools I've applied to so far (one still pending).

Not to mention grad schools tend to like candidates who worked during undergrad.

Do you know of anyone who got into med school with a 3.0GPA and 15 on MCAT claiming that they were working?
Do you know of anyone who got rejected from med school with a 4.0GPA and 32 on MCAT because they didn't work?

 

[Injury]

Commitment, Organization, Scheduling, NO Procrastination.

 

[Deeko]

Originally posted by: Xavier434

Originally posted by: Deeko

Originally posted by: Xavier434

Deeko: I think it really depends on what your opinion of "strict" actually means.

Acanthus: I thought they only really cared if you worked a more respected job or internship? I didn't think they cared much about jobs such as waiting tables or retail.

Most scholarships I've seen ranged from a minimum of 2.8-3.4. Mine was 3.0.

Obviously have a relevant job is what important - you learn so much more in the "real world" than you do by spending an extra hour a night studying.

2.8-3.4 might be the minimum reqs to submit an application but are you actually competitive without having a 3.5 or higher? I never applied for them since I had no plans for grad school so I really don't know.

In regards to the job, most people who talk about working a 30-40 week job in college are not working on something relative to their career. There are exceptions of course but they are a minority. Most are just working some crap job to pay the bills. I chose to take loans instead of doing that because I didn't want my college experience to vastly consist of working and academics alone which was the point of my original post.

Sure, if you have the right work experience and/or can present yourself well.

My opinion might be skewed because my jobs were both relevant (if you've ever been to a Commerce Bank and used penny arcade, that was all me baby), but as I also said in my first post, if you know how to budget your time, you can still have all the social/extracurricular benefits of college, and still work too.

 

[jersiq]

Full time job, as in a career, part-time school, and for the last 2.5 years 1 child, and the last year 2 children.

Yeah, with two toddlers, it gets very hectic. Earlier on, while my wife was pregnant with my first, I was able to take a full load for a semester, but it was all Gen-Ed requirements except for Calc II. I actually made the Dean's list that semester.

We had kids because we are older (32 and 31).


The only reason I went back to school is that I work in a specialized position, that in a few years, I believe, will be non-existent. Since it is specialized, I need to have an "out" where I can get a job that makes commensurate pay.

There is light, I only have until 2011 going part-time before I graduate.
:beer:

 

[Xavier434]

Originally posted by: Deeko

Originally posted by: Xavier434

Originally posted by: Deeko

Originally posted by: Xavier434

Deeko: I think it really depends on what your opinion of "strict" actually means.

Acanthus: I thought they only really cared if you worked a more respected job or internship? I didn't think they cared much about jobs such as waiting tables or retail.

Most scholarships I've seen ranged from a minimum of 2.8-3.4. Mine was 3.0.

Obviously have a relevant job is what important - you learn so much more in the "real world" than you do by spending an extra hour a night studying.

2.8-3.4 might be the minimum reqs to submit an application but are you actually competitive without having a 3.5 or higher? I never applied for them since I had no plans for grad school so I really don't know.

In regards to the job, most people who talk about working a 30-40 week job in college are not working on something relative to their career. There are exceptions of course but they are a minority. Most are just working some crap job to pay the bills. I chose to take loans instead of doing that because I didn't want my college experience to vastly consist of working and academics alone which was the point of my original post.

Sure, if you have the right work experience and/or can present yourself well.

My opinion might be skewed because my jobs were both relevant (if you've ever been to a Commerce Bank and used penny arcade, that was all me baby), but as I also said in my first post, if you know how to budget your time, you can still have all the social/extracurricular benefits of college, and still work too.

Eh...I suppose. Time management definitely makes a difference but also understand that certain fields of education require many more hours to receive good grades and be successful than others. That plus there are lots of scholarships where work experience is not even requested or considered. In any case, you want to get the good grades. Do not sacrifice those grades just so you can work more hours. There is plenty of time after college to work and get that experience. The only exception I would consider would be summer internships or something similar.

 

[Deeko]

Eh...I suppose. Time management definitely makes a difference but also understand that certain fields of education require many more hours to receive good grades and be successful than others. That plus there are lots of scholarships where work experience is not even requested or considered. In any case, you want to get the good grades. Do not sacrifice those grades just so you can work more hours. There is plenty of time after college to work and get that experience. The only exception I would consider would be summer internships or something similar.

haha I wasn't a business major, I'm aware that some majors actually take work. And you'll never convince me that grades make much of an impact on your life, unless you're trying to get into med school or something similar - not all grad school, but some.

 

[Xavier434]

Originally posted by: Deeko

Eh...I suppose. Time management definitely makes a difference but also understand that certain fields of education require many more hours to receive good grades and be successful than others. That plus there are lots of scholarships where work experience is not even requested or considered. In any case, you want to get the good grades. Do not sacrifice those grades just so you can work more hours. There is plenty of time after college to work and get that experience. The only exception I would consider would be summer internships or something similar.

haha I wasn't a business major, I'm aware that some majors actually take work. And you'll never convince me that grades make much of an impact on your life, unless you're trying to get into med school or something similar - not all grad school, but some.

I wasn't. I claimed this:

Originally posted by: Xavier434
They do if you plan to get a higher education or want to apply for scholarships.

You can't get into many grad schools these days without good grades (i.e. 3.0 or higher). The competition to get into these programs is sky rocketing. It is different today in comparison to even 5 years ago.

 

[Deeko]

I don't really consider a 3.0 to be "good grades". That's pretty much adequate grades. And many grad school programs - masters in particular - will still take you below that mark. It's your higher level things like med school that are going to be more stringent.