Fullerton cops found not guilty

[Jimzz]

Before anyone brings it up as defense of the police; the dead guys tox screen was negative. The police tried to say he was on something, he was not.

This is also the jury that someone posted the juries picture on the internet. Not sure if they were harassed after/before that but even the judge made a comment on the picture being sent out.

 

[uclabachelor]

I'm not surprised at the verdict at all. It's unfortunate that they were acquitted of all charges and I truly believed they should have been found guilty of at least involuntary manslaughter and lesser charges.

I've watched the whole video and the homeless is pretty uncooperative at first. Had he cooperated, the situation would not have escalated. That does not mean that the cops were in their right to do what they did though.

The city also negotiated a $1M payout to his family outside of the criminal case.

Because of the acquittal, I'm now interested in the jury profile.

 

[NoStateofMind]

I am all for giving the police significant deference. It is a hard job and you can easily be put in a bad spot where you make the wrong decision. But Jesus, there has to be a line and the line seems so far away from here it's not even close.

Holy classism batman! You cannot give police preferential treatment without creating a separate class of people not subject to the same consequences as the rest of us. Classism is racism of the social order.

 

[DominionSeraph]

Holy classism batman! You cannot give police preferential treatment without creating a separate class of people not subject to the same consequences as the rest of us.

Supreme Court justices get to rule on cases as the highest law in the land. HOLY CLASSISM!

The President gets a veto over Congress. HOLY CLASSISM!

Employees at restricted sites get to enter restricted sites. HOLY CLASSISM!

Go away. You bore me.

 

[NoStateofMind]

Supreme Court justices get to rule on cases as the highest law in the land. HOLY CLASSISM!

The President gets a veto over Congress. HOLY CLASSISM!

Employees at restricted sites get to enter restricted sites. HOLY CLASSISM!

Go away. You bore me.

You apparently don't know what the term means.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/classism

 

[Nebor]

Orange County. 'Nuff said.

Agreed. The police were doing what they get paid to do by the taxpayers. It's the same story in every wealthy community the world over. You never hear the complaints about racial profiling, classism, etc. because it's what the people of the community want, and the police treat the residents of the community with deference and respect while keeping a close watch on outsiders.

 

[AnonymouseUser]

Every one of those jurors deserve a similar beating.

 

[Triumph]

Go away. You bore me.

Why do you think anyone gives two shits about your boredom level? The person you quoted wasn't even replying to you. Get a life.

 

[destey]

Not surprised at all. This country LOVES statism, authority and the people that wield it. Pick up the can you shit tier citizen! Dare to raise a hand in questioning your overlords? You're gonna get beat! Peasants...

 

[Lithium381]

Not surprised at all. This country LOVES statism, authority and the people that wield it. Pick up the can you shit tier citizen! Dare to raise a hand in questioning your overlords? You're gonna get beat! Peasants...

Yep, thirsty for reeducation . .

 

[Texashiker]

We live in some fucked up times when cops can beat a homeless man to death with video evidence and people in this country don't find them guilty.

In other words random people pulled from the general public are too dumb to serve on a jury?

Is that what you are saying?

If there is "any" reasonable doubt the jury had to find the officers not guilty. That is the way our legal system works. If you do not like the way the system works, instead of getting out of jury duty, try to get selected. Do your part to reform the system.

 

[Lithium381]

In other words random people pulled from the general public are too dumb to serve on a jury?

Is that what you are saying?

If there is "any" reasonable doubt the jury had to find the officers not guilty. That is the way our legal system works. If you do not like the way the system works, instead of getting out of jury duty, try to get selected. Do your part to reform the system.

Jury nullification? Probably soon to be a felony .. ..

 

[Pray To Jesus]

Jury nullification? Probably soon to be a felony .. ..

lol nope not a chance

 

[senseamp]

Police states use the court system to punish those who resist their abuses. Jury nullification could be a very useful tool of civil disobedience in the hands of an informed population. So I wouldn't throw the baby out with the bath water.

 

[La Commisar]

Orange County police worship at its finest.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

30 minutes of a helpless man being unmercilessly beaten...and killed. I guess that's one way to solve the homeless problem in Orange County.

 

[bshole]

30 minutes of a helpless man being unmercilessly beaten...and killed. I guess that's one way to solve the homeless problem in Orange County.

If anybody had used violence to stop the assault on the homeless man, would they have been charged with a crime? Is it legal for a group of people to overpower the police when they are clearly beating a man to death? I would love to see an instance of this in America.

I have seen an instance of it in Spain and it was epic. The cops were beating a man in full view of a stadium of drunken soccer fans. Eventually they got pissed, jumped out of their seats and gave the cops a good beatdown. It was all caught on camera. Dunno if they went to jail or not for it, I do know that the cops ran off with the fans chasing them.

 

[Nebor]

If anybody had used violence to stop the assault on the homeless man, would they have been charged with a crime? Is it legal for a group of people to overpower the police when they are clearly beating a man to death? I would love to see an instance of this in America.

I have seen an instance of it in Spain and it was epic. The cops were beating a man in full view of a stadium of drunken soccer fans. Eventually they got pissed, jumped out of their seats and gave the cops a good beatdown. It was all caught on camera. Dunno if they went to jail or not for it, I do know that the cops ran off with the fans chasing them.

It's legal in Texas. There are several statutes which cover the use of force against a peace officer acting illegally. But I wouldn't try it if I were you.

 

[Spungo]

It gets fun when you put all of this together. Now the police are allowed to tap your phone without a warrant, arrest you for no reason, and kill you for no reason.

 

[dainthomas]

In other words random people pulled from the general public are too dumb to serve on a jury?

Is that what you are saying?

If there is "any" reasonable doubt the jury had to find the officers not guilty. That is the way our legal system works. If you do not like the way the system works, instead of getting out of jury duty, try to get selected. Do your part to reform the system.

If the DA has a video of you beating a homeless guy to death, and you're not a cop, you'd best be stocking up on soap-on-a-rope.

 

[brycejones]

You have to wonder what it would take to find them guilty at this point. Did they need to beat him to death in the courtroom?

Sorry that would have just been a demonstration....no crime found.

 

[brycejones]

It's legal in Texas. There are several statutes which cover the use of force against a peace officer acting illegally. But I wouldn't try it if I were you.

And they can all be litigated by your estate......

 

[TreVader]

Orange County. 'Nuff said.

This. Most likely most of you aren't from SoCal but if you were, you wouldn't find it surprising at all.

 

[TreVader]

That is the question I am asking. What does it take to convict a cop in this country?

A dead white woman. That's pretty much it.



edit: or three. See Drew Peterson.