it seems to me that this forum well represents the average group of americans. you have the stupid people that don't see what's actually going on, you have the stupid people that think the ones who do see what is going on are comunist, you have the stupid people who see hwat is going on and misrepresent it and then you have the people who see what is going and protest it, and finally you have the people who see what is going on and just sit back and enjoy watching the world go to hell in a handbasket. the war in afghanistan was us destroying and entire country to get to one man, in an attempt to find a terrorist organization, the war in iraq is just a stupid continuation of a war started byt the father who wouldn't finish by the son who won't finish it, and the rest of the people over there who we are going to kill in the name of "liberty" are just trying to live. and if you are offended by them then don't look at them. and for those of you who will insist on calling people like me communist then maybe you should pull your head out of your A$$ and figure out what the ideals behing communism were and compare them to the ideals behind the constitution. the ideals behing communism were that people deserve to be equal. that is in our constitution. that everyone deserves a job to support their family. that is in out constition. and that everyone should work together for the good of the nation as a whole. and that sure as hell should have been in our contitution.