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ROTC1983

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Originally posted by: Feldenak
I find some of them mildly amusing in a childish sort of way. Others are done in incredibly poor taste and some are utterly offensive.

I agree with that...those just kind of pissed me off...I am joining the military and that is all what those who we fought for free speech for think of us :disgust:
 

Infos

Diamond Member
Jul 20, 2001
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I posted these a long time ago
I'm glad to see there is a demand for them and they've started marketing them through cafepress

Feldenak: The reason you find these offensive is you in fact an unthinking asscroft-drone puppet
and worse than that, one from Alabama
 

Feldenak

Lifer
Jan 31, 2003
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Originally posted by: Infos
I posted these a long time ago
I'm glad to see there is a demand for them and they've started marketing them through cafepress

Feldenak: The reason you find these offensive is you in fact an unthinking asscroft-drone puppet
and worse than that, one from Alabama

Actually:
1) I'm not from Alabama, I just happen to reside here for school.
2) I find those particular posters offensive because a) my grandfather served in the 82nd Airborne in WWII, b) my father served in Vietnam, c) my brother will be commissioned as a 2nd LT in the US Army next spring, and d) I have respect for the military and those who serve(d) in the armed forces


I also find your blatent generalization of my politics and mental capacity mildly amusing in the sense that you pointed out your own ignorance better than I ever could.
 

palad

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Jul 18, 2000
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Cool posters. I wish more people could see that soldiers are dying so the politicians can line their pockets with oil money....


Uh oh, here comes Homeland Security. They're knocking on my door! <Think happy thoughts! Think happy thoughts!>


Careful what you say, people. Big Brother is watching.
 

Triumph

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: palad
Cool posters. I wish more people could see that soldiers are dying so the politicians can line their pockets with oil money.....

Yeah, these posters sure are proof that soldiers are dying (all 20 of them) so these politicians can line their pockets (where's your proof?)
 
Jan 8, 2003
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Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
And one more commie heard from. If it's such a big problem here, you're welcome to move to one of those nice communistic dictatorships you all seem to love so much.

ZV

I love those pathetic and always-the-same-one-line responses to everything that doubts the nessesity of war, - "get out!"

never get tired of it, and of the intelligent, educated, polite and thinking people who use it

 
Jan 8, 2003
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Originally posted by: Munchies
Originally posted by: SnapIT
Originally posted by: Munchies
Originally posted by: DaWhim
I like this one

For some reason I find that quite disturbing. Vacancies available? Damn. Move to f'n nazi germany and say something bad about them. Be proud that in this country you have the right to criticize. Were protecting that right. To abuse it? get a dick. I wish he was dead (author)

Nazi Germany would be hard to move to... In germany today he could say whatever bad things he wants about the government (or the army, or whatever)...

Be proud that you have the right by not using it?

Still looking for where I said "today"..Can you help me. Usually one someone says nazi germany they are refering to the past. Unless you think germany has Nazi's there today?

actually, they do

 
Jan 8, 2003
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Originally posted by: ROTC1983
Originally posted by: rgwalt
I don't even think I would call them funny...

Ryan

Some of those are kind of...disturbing I guess...they seem to make a lot of fun of the military even though they are just following orders.

German soldiers were also just following orders

 

Rogue

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Jan 28, 2000
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What disturbs me in all of this is the continual bashing of the United States under the guise of "I'm free to say what I want, so I'm gonna hate my country!" It's getting really, really old. The KKK is free to say a lot of things too, that doesn't make it right.
 

dabuddha

Lifer
Apr 10, 2000
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Originally posted by: Rogue
What disturbs me in all of this is the continual bashing of the United States under the guise of "I'm free to say what I want, so I'm gonna hate my country!" It's getting really, really old. The KKK is free to say a lot of things too, that doesn't make it right.

Kind of like how little children say naughty words to try to get attention
 
Jan 8, 2003
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Originally posted by: dabuddha
Originally posted by: Rogue
What disturbs me in all of this is the continual bashing of the United States under the guise of "I'm free to say what I want, so I'm gonna hate my country!" It's getting really, really old. The KKK is free to say a lot of things too, that doesn't make it right.

Kind of like how little children say naughty words to try to get attention

So, basically, what You are implying here, - is that anybody who dares to express a thoght that is different than that of the goverment or that of the media or that of the majority of the population, - is acting childishly and is an attention whore?

I'm impressed by Your intellect and logic!

 

n0cmonkey

Elite Member
Jun 10, 2001
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Originally posted by: Rogue
What disturbs me in all of this is the continual bashing of the United States under the guise of "I'm free to say what I want, so I'm gonna hate my country!" It's getting really, really old. The KKK is free to say a lot of things too, that doesn't make it right.

Why is this considered hating America? I think questioning the government's decisions is one of the most American and patriotic things a citizen can do. I don't see how anyone with any intelligence can disagree with that. Go with your conscience, and be happy when others follow theirs.
 

MichaelD

Lifer
Jan 16, 2001
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Originally posted by: rgwalt
I don't even think I would call them funny...

Ryan

Neither would I. I would go so far as to call them Anti-American. If you're not doing anything wrong, then you have nothing to hide, correct?

Those posters were probably all designed by some disgruntled, hairy-armpitted, lesbian students from Berkeley.
 

JoPh

Diamond Member
Aug 8, 2002
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hmmm. i think i want to buy one. but i dont know how reliable this store is.
 

n0cmonkey

Elite Member
Jun 10, 2001
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Originally posted by: MichaelD
Originally posted by: rgwalt
I don't even think I would call them funny...

Ryan

Neither would I. I would go so far as to call them Anti-American. If you're not doing anything wrong, then you have nothing to hide, correct?

Those posters were probably all designed by some disgruntled, hairy-armpitted, lesbian students from Berkeley.

Bwahahahaha! People still use that arguement?! Jeez, I thought people were supposed to get smarter.
 

SnapIT

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Jul 8, 2002
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Originally posted by: Munchies
Originally posted by: SnapIT
Originally posted by: Munchies
Originally posted by: DaWhim
I like this one

For some reason I find that quite disturbing. Vacancies available? Damn. Move to f'n nazi germany and say something bad about them. Be proud that in this country you have the right to criticize. Were protecting that right. To abuse it? get a dick. I wish he was dead (author)

Nazi Germany would be hard to move to... In germany today he could say whatever bad things he wants about the government (or the army, or whatever)...

Be proud that you have the right by not using it?

Still looking for where I said "today"..Can you help me. Usually one someone says nazi germany they are refering to the past. Unless you think germany has Nazi's there today?


So you want him not only to move, but to do a bit of time traveling as well? err... why didn't you just say china or NK or whatever dictatorship of your choice?

BTW, i invoke goodwins law, a bit delayed, but still, i win...
 

Zenmervolt

Elite member
Oct 22, 2000
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Originally posted by: imprezawrxwagon
Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
And one more commie heard from. If it's such a big problem here, you're welcome to move to one of those nice communistic dictatorships you all seem to love so much.

ZV
You are one of those bright young Americans who believes that US is a democracy and not a republic, aren't You?
No. You'd have to be an ignorant ass if you thought that the US was anything other than a Republic.

Originally posted by: imprezawrxwagon
I love those pathetic and always-the-same-one-line responses to everything that doubts the nessesity of war, - "get out!"

never get tired of it, and of the intelligent, educated, polite and thinking people who use it
Is there any particular reason that you quoted the same post twice to make two replies that could have better been consolidated into a single post? Or are you simply desireous of an increased postcount?

As for my suggestion that they leave, you would do well to read the entire post closely and not to insert your own prejudices into the statement. I did NOT say that they should get out if they disagree with the war. There are plenty of rational people who disagree with the war, however such people all also realise the the U.S. is a better place to live than anywhere else, that Bush was elected according to the process set forth in the Constitution, and that it is completely asinine to compare Bush to Hitler. Disagreement with the war is something I respect and that I acknowledge as necessary for a healthy Republic. Once people start claiming that Bush is worse than Hitler and making fun of dead soldiers however, they can get the hell out because they obviously think that life would be much better in other countries. I say, if you think that the US sucks so badly, then you should be encouraged to vote with your feet.

In short, productive and well-reasoned criticism is one thing. Calling Bush a NAZI and making light of the deaths of persons who volunteer in the military because they want to protect your cowardly ass is a whole other ballgame.

ZV
 

Zenmervolt

Elite member
Oct 22, 2000
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Originally posted by: SnapIT
Originally posted by: Munchies
Originally posted by: SnapIT
Originally posted by: Munchies
Originally posted by: DaWhim
I like this one
For some reason I find that quite disturbing. Vacancies available? Damn. Move to f'n nazi germany and say something bad about them. Be proud that in this country you have the right to criticize. Were protecting that right. To abuse it? get a dick. I wish he was dead (author)
Nazi Germany would be hard to move to... In germany today he could say whatever bad things he wants about the government (or the army, or whatever)...

Be proud that you have the right by not using it?
Still looking for where I said "today"..Can you help me. Usually one someone says nazi germany they are refering to the past. Unless you think germany has Nazi's there today?
So you want him not only to move, but to do a bit of time traveling as well? err... why didn't you just say china or NK or whatever dictatorship of your choice?

BTW, i invoke goodwins law, a bit delayed, but still, i win...
I believe that you missed the point of his original post. He was not suggesting that people should not criticise the war. He was simply saying that people should not take out their anger at the war on the soldiers who are just doing their job by fighting it. If someone claims to hate death and yet posts things that make light of the death of a soldier, then it strikes me that there is an incredible incongruity.

ZV
 

Infos

Diamond Member
Jul 20, 2001
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hmmm. i think i want to buy one. but i dont know how reliable this store is.

It's VERY reliable
Hundreds if not thousands of individuals and groups have been using this site
to market their ideas for years now
If you have an image you want to put on a mug or tshirt they'll put a package together for you gratis
It's the ultimate soapbox
 

SnapIT

Banned
Jul 8, 2002
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Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: imprezawrxwagon
Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
And one more commie heard from. If it's such a big problem here, you're welcome to move to one of those nice communistic dictatorships you all seem to love so much.

ZV
You are one of those bright young Americans who believes that US is a democracy and not a republic, aren't You?
No. You'd have to be an ignorant ass if you thought that the US was anything other than a Republic.

Originally posted by: imprezawrxwagon
I love those pathetic and always-the-same-one-line responses to everything that doubts the nessesity of war, - "get out!"

never get tired of it, and of the intelligent, educated, polite and thinking people who use it
Is there any particular reason that you quoted the same post twice to make two replies that could have better been consolidated into a single post? Or are you simply desireous of an increased postcount?

As for my suggestion that they leave, you would do well to read the entire post closely and not to insert your own prejudices into the statement. I did NOT say that they should get out if they disagree with the war. There are plenty of rational people who disagree with the war, however such people all also realise the the U.S. is a better place to live than anywhere else, that Bush was elected according to the process set forth in the Constitution, and that it is completely asinine to compare Bush to Hitler. Disagreement with the war is something I respect and that I acknowledge as necessary for a healthy Republic. Once people start claiming that Bush is worse than Hitler and making fun of dead soldiers however, they can get the hell out because they obviously think that life would be much better in other countries. I say, if you think that the US sucks so badly, then you should be encouraged to vote with your feet.

In short, productive and well-reasoned criticism is one thing. Calling Bush a NAZI and making light of the deaths of persons who volunteer in the military because they want to protect your cowardly ass is a whole other ballgame.

ZV

There are so many flaws in what you say that i won't adress them all due to lack of bandwidth on the intarweb...

Is the US paradise? Is there no room for improvement? If you disagree with the current administration, is it not ok to say that the current administration sucks? Is it ok to critizise ideas that you do not share, if not, is there anything you think that the current administration has done wrong, are you going to move?

That "patriotism means no questions" seems to be right up your alley... sad, isn't it?

Oh, and who said that Bush is worse than the nazis?
 

SnapIT

Banned
Jul 8, 2002
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Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: SnapIT
Originally posted by: Munchies
Originally posted by: SnapIT
Originally posted by: Munchies
Originally posted by: DaWhim
I like this one
For some reason I find that quite disturbing. Vacancies available? Damn. Move to f'n nazi germany and say something bad about them. Be proud that in this country you have the right to criticize. Were protecting that right. To abuse it? get a dick. I wish he was dead (author)
Nazi Germany would be hard to move to... In germany today he could say whatever bad things he wants about the government (or the army, or whatever)...

Be proud that you have the right by not using it?
Still looking for where I said "today"..Can you help me. Usually one someone says nazi germany they are refering to the past. Unless you think germany has Nazi's there today?
So you want him not only to move, but to do a bit of time traveling as well? err... why didn't you just say china or NK or whatever dictatorship of your choice?

BTW, i invoke goodwins law, a bit delayed, but still, i win...
I believe that you missed the point of his original post. He was not suggesting that people should not criticise the war. He was simply saying that people should not take out their anger at the war on the soldiers who are just doing their job by fighting it. If someone claims to hate death and yet posts things that make light of the death of a soldier, then it strikes me that there is an incredible incongruity.

ZV

No, i didn't miss the point, you, OTOH have missed the point entirely...

The thing is, making light of the fact that soldiers die in a war is another argument against war, in every war, soldiers will die, it's not the fault of the soldiers, nobody said that, but to look away from that fact only makes you blind to the horrors of war...

Whatever you stance is, moving to Nazi Germany would be impossible, he even got that part wrong...
 
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