Yeah well, If they really want dvi to die so bad they ought to stop building dvi ports into all the monitors. The fact is there are still sh$t loads of people using it and to have ATI totally drop it from their cards like that is a stupid move IMO.
Notice how I said DVI. I didn't say what flavor of DVI. Why? The entirety of DVI is dead. Again, there is no standards group. The HDMI working group still exists and is iterating the standard. Your attempt at cleverness just shows your reading comprehension needs work.
Dp to hdmi 2.0 isn't out now or any time soon. So why mention it? It's the gtx 980ti or nothing for at least 5 months. I've waited on adapter releases.... It's even worse because they aren't massive companies and there is little backlash for delays.Well, in fairness, those that buy Fury X will also be a miniscule percentage of the overall market, but there is likely to be considerable overlap in those that buy Fury X and those that have 4K60HZ tvs due simply to cost of both alone. Odds are good if you can afford one you can afford the other, but if you can only afford one you don't care about the other.
That being said, I really don't think this will slow anyone's decision provided that X really is the best card on the market right now. If you can afford a 4K60HZ tv and a Fury X and the rest of a rig, you can afford a DP->HDMI 2.0 adapter.
The impact of people that this will actually deter from buying the Fury X is probably no more than a rounding error on their spreadsheets.
Dunno how people still are saying it's no big issue just get an adapter that comes out around the time a gpu node shrink is beginning to get rumors out. No thanks.
For these people saying there are 4k tvs with display port on.Its a shame too, because AMD announced Freesync support over HDMI plus has been pushing the 4K capabilities of Fiji. To leave out an important thing like HDMI 2.0 is odd.
For those who haven't gotten the TV yet, they can at least try and find one with DP. Neither of which is optimal, but could work. For those who already have a 4K TV, and don't have DP, this sucks...I guess there is the possibility of the adapter, but I wonder how that might work later with HDCP 2.2 or if there are other compatibility issues? Just asking the question.
I don't get the people who say just buy a 4K TV with DP. Why limit yourself to 10% (being generous here) of the market on a $1000+ purchase? Why give up the ability to use an A/V receiver?
Especially for those who are looking at this situation without a brand preference. Why give up options just to go with the Fury X, when the 980 Ti seems like a perfectly suitable alternative?
This was a major overlook by AMD, I see no reasoning behind not having HDMI 2.0.
What is the problem ? Get 980ti then. Good there is choices and missing 2.0 is sure bad for those who need it. The rest of us can get fury cheaper then - and stellar perf also in 1 year. Lol.I don't get the people who say just buy a 4K TV with DP. Why limit yourself to 10% (being generous here) of the market on a $1000+ purchase? Why give up the ability to use an A/V receiver?
Especially for those who are looking at this situation without a brand preference. Why give up options just to go with the Fury X, when the 980 Ti seems like a perfectly suitable alternative?
This was a major overlook by AMD, I see no reasoning behind not having HDMI 2.0.
Just because a TV includes DisplayPort doesn't mean they leave off all other types of inputs.I don't get the people who say just buy a 4K TV with DP. Why limit yourself to 10% (being generous here) of the market on a $1000+ purchase? Why give up the ability to use an A/V receiver?
You do realize this is a fraction of 1% of the community, right?
Just because a TV includes DisplayPort doesn't mean they leave off all other types of inputs.
It's painfully clear a lot of people in this thread are extremely rigid pc/desktop users and refuse to use a pc any other way. I've used a pc at a desk only for my actual job. Otherwise I haven't used a desk/monitor in about 7 years?What you should really be looking at is the % of potential Fury card buyers that need HDMI 2.0. I bet its a lot higher than a fraction of 1%.
I'm confused what you mean by this... In the market for a 4K TV, if you can only look at those with DP inputs to get 4K60Hz from your video card, you're limiting yourself quite a bit. If you have an A/V receiver, you'd have to bypass it to use the PC, or use another method to get audio to the receiver.
Serious question, are there 4k TVs with input lag comparable to a good PC monitor for gaming? Input lag is what has always kept me away from gaming seriously on TVs.
Panasonic has been including DisplayPort on their 4K televisions for a couple years now. And besides, the overwhelming majority of people out there game on monitors, not TVs. I doubt that not having HDMI 2.0 is going to slow sales of the Fury X all that much. The 4K60Hz gaming crowd is a miniscule percentage of the overall market.
For these people saying there are 4k tvs with display port on. Find me a 4k TV with display port that also supports 1080p 120hz for at least a 60 inch display. I'll wait for the multitude of cheap options to flood in!
Dp to hdmi 2.0 isn't out now or any time soon. So why mention it? It's the gtx 980ti or nothing for at least 5 months. I've waited on adapter releases.... It's even worse because they aren't massive companies and there is little backlash for delays.
Dunno how people still are saying it's no big issue just get an adapter that comes out around the time a gpu node shrink is beginning to get rumors out. No thanks.
The number of TV's with HDMI 2.0 that can do 4K60Hz are limited as well. Not as limited as DP obviously, but they're still either rare or on high end products.I'm confused what you mean by this... In the market for a 4K TV, if you can only look at those with DP inputs to get 4K60Hz from your video card, you're limiting yourself quite a bit.
DP from computer to TV, digital audio from computer to receiver. And if you want to make it really easy, just use a programmable remote to change both of the inputs simultaneously when you want to switch to it.If you have an A/V receiver, you'd have to bypass it to use the PC, or use another method to get audio to the receiver.
The 2013/14 AX800U had DP and their current 2014/15 AX900U does as well.There are no 2015 model 4k TVs with DP, they were phased out. Only some Panasonic 2014 4k models offered DPs.
I'm elated to finally get 3x DP on a reference card. I've wanted to ditch DVI for quite some time without needing A DP hub.
Welcome to 10 months ago? Nvidia 970,980,980ti, Titan X all have 3 full DP native on the reference models
Where did you see this?
But, but, that would be common sense. It is not like the lack of hd audio bit-streaming stopped the same lot from buying Nvidia before, but now that it is AMD, things are a bit different. Besides, nothing is DP 1.3 or HDCP 2.2 compliant, but that is irrelevant.Then those people can just buy an Nvidia card and we can stop talking about HDMI.