Fury X at $440 a good buy?

[guskline]

digitaldurandal: I sold both of my R9 290s which were in CF in 4790k rig below and moved the GTX 980TI SC to my 4790k rig and bought a GTX 1080 for my 5960x rig. (I had gift cards so the true cost was nominal and Vega is too far out).

Best move I made in a long time. No more worry about whether or not a game supported CF.

I went the Nvidia route. In your case due to your monitor, I would go AMD.

Don't sell the monitor you love. Buy the Fury X and be done with it. Vega will come but not soon enough for releases such as BF1 etc.

 

[digitaldurandal]

Newegg customer support agreed to let me have the promo Warhammer Total War even though this card was not in the promotion, so I pulled the trigger. That pushed me off the fence. Thank you Newegg

Life Pro Tip - be super nice to customer support and make their job easy and sometimes you get a little christmas gift This is the second time Newegg has hooked me up. Last time I bought the 290s I didn't realize they didn't come with the game promotion (all the other 290 models did except the MSI for some reason) until the cards arrived but they sent me one anyway.

Well, now to list my current GPU for sale.

 

[Arachnotronic]

Don't sell the monitor you love. Buy the Fury X and be done with it. Vega will come but not soon enough for releases such as BF1 etc.

What great, straightforward, pragmatic advice this is.

I see you have bought it. Congrats!

 

[digitaldurandal]

What great, straightforward, pragmatic advice this is.

I see you have bought it. Congrats!

Yea he was pretty concise. I decided that I would chat with Newegg and if they would throw in the promo it would be worth it. If Vega is great I will take a small loss but have have better settings for ~8 months. If Vega sucks I am covered for a while.

 

[Silverforce11]

I would wait out Vega. Fury X is a bad buy at the price of a 1070.

But only because I don't think Vega is that far away (with good evidence, not random forum leaks), we might see it sooner than people think.

 

[HOOfan 1]

2 Display port monitors and 1 DVI but I can use HDMI

Fury X has 3 DP and 1 HDMI port.

Fury X only has HDMI 1.4 though, so you would be limited to well below 100hz at 1440p

 

[HiroThreading]

No point paying $440 for a 4GB card in 2016. Wait for a better card from AMD or go the Nvidia way.

He has a FreeSync monitor. Why should he even think of going with Nvidia?

OP, if you don't need the extra frames, you may as well wait for Vega. Who knows, maybe somewhere down the track you'll find an even better deal on a Fury or 390X.

 

[digitaldurandal]

Fury X only has HDMI 1.4 though, so you would be limited to well below 100hz at 1440p

Appreciate the warning HOOfan. The monitor using DVI is actually just a 1200p 60hz monitor I have setup above my treadmill. I play Telltale type games while walking on an incline. That was a great warning though as this could really bite someone who does not have a DP monitor.

 

[Arachnotronic]

I would wait out Vega. Fury X is a bad buy at the price of a 1070.

But only because I don't think Vega is that far away (with good evidence, not random forum leaks), we might see it sooner than people think.

AMD says Vega is coming in 2017, that's quite a ways away, especially if somebody wants to play games now.

 

[digitaldurandal]

AMD says Vega is coming in 2017, that's quite a ways away, especially if somebody wants to play games now.

Also I really don't think they're going to beat Fury X performance at $440. I suspect it will be pretty similar in that price range, I probably trade ~10-20% performance difference later for better performance for the next 6 - 8 months at the same price range. With the only caveat being I only have 4G of VRAM but I won't be maxing all settings at 1440p 144hz anyway.

Also Vega performance could be anywhere, we don't yet, AMD has left a large gap in price to fill.

 

[Midwayman]

Also I really don't think they're going to beat Fury X performance at $440. I suspect it will be pretty similar in that price range, I probably trade ~10-20% performance difference later for better performance for the next 6 - 8 months at the same price range. With the only caveat being I only have 4G of VRAM but I won't be maxing all settings at 1440p 144hz anyway.

Also Vega performance could be anywhere, we don't yet, AMD has left a large gap in price to fill.

That's not a bet I'd take considering the 1070 does it at a (theoretical) MSRP of $389.... I'd expect AMD's $400ish card to be in the 1070 range. Who knows though. If they can't hit that target they are in serious trouble on the high end with Vega.

 

[krumme]

That's not a bet I'd take considering the 1070 does it at a (theoretical) MSRP of $389.... I'd expect AMD's $400ish card to be in the 1070 range. Who knows though. If they can't hit that target they are in serious trouble on the high end with Vega.

They are in a hopeless situation. Nv will have a big die that is faster. People buying 600 usd cards want the fastest. 30% faster can easily mean 70% more expensive. Secondly hbm2 and a huge die brings it in a cost dilemma vs 1080.
Its simply stuck in a bad place even if its 10% faster than 1080. It doesnt really matter.
85% of the market is between 100 and 300 usd. Not much is left for low and highend.

 

[guachi]

Newegg customer support agreed to let me have the promo Warhammer Total War even though this card was not in the promotion, so I pulled the trigger. That pushed me off the fence. Thank you Newegg

Free $60 game that, if you really like Total War you'll value at $60 makes the Fury X a reasonable purchase compared with a 1070 and a no brainer with a freesync monitor.

 

[beginner99]

I would say depends how much money you have and are willing to spend. If money is no issues just buy the fury x and upgrade to big Vega next year.

If however money is an issue or you don't want spend too much, just wait. That's what i would do. In the mean time you can look on ebay or such for good deals on fury (all versions).

 

[tweakboy]

Wait for Fury 2 in fall. Enjoy what you have now..

 

[Tarvaln]

I'm in the same boat. Older xfire cards and a freesync monitor. I wasn't able to talk newegg into a free game but I was able to get $15 off through ebay and $20 off from newegg.

 

[digitaldurandal]

Installing the XFX Fury X was *very* annoying. I'll lead with that. I forgot that I had read somewhere that the XFX has very short lines.

My case is specifically designed for air cooling with airflow from bottom to top but it does have places for radiators. However they require you to run the hose out of the case up the top and even if it would be possible to take apart the AIO the hoses would be too short.

The radiator is pretty fat and I could not properly mount it to any of the fan mounts. I ended up placing it on the bottom of the case blowing down out of the case.. not ideal but the temperature is so low it doesn't seem to matter. The good news is in the unlikely event of a AIO leak failure it won't touch any

A fair noise reduction during gaming was had going from MSI 290 4G Gaming to XFX Fury X. Partially because I removed a fan from the bottom. Although, I am considering putting it back and having a ghetto push/pull on the radiator.

So on to actually gaming - I was actually pretty surprised. My gains were more than the 25-30% I thought I would have in some situations at 1440p. I figured my 290 was pretty close to a 390 that you see in most reviews now but it must be slightly under it. In GTA V I saw almost 50% gains in some scenes and in others I saw only 25%. I think those areas are CPU limited and will need to wait on Zen/7700k.

So far I am pretty happy, once I sell my other 290 and if I credit total war as 40 bucks I will be looking at 100 dollars to switch to it from 290 CF after rebate. A little extra if you include the frustration of the install but technically I did it while on the clock so . No more messing around with CF to see what games work etc.

Anyways thought I would share for anyone thinking about the same type of move.

 

[Tarvaln]

Hey OP.
Just so you know, the price has dropped to $399. So call them and ask for the difference. They did it for me today. You're Welcome. Also, if you get an extra copy of Total War: Warhammer please feel free to send it my way.
Had issues installing as well. My case is a HAF 922 (2010 model). I just used one screw to hold it to the bottom where it sits.
Gains were amazing in my case as well. Well above my 7950's in Xfire. Very happy with this purchase.

 

[beginner99]

The radiator is pretty fat and I could not properly mount it to any of the fan mounts. I ended up placing it on the bottom of the case blowing down out of the case..

Isn't that a problem? I always thought you have to mount the radiator above the block/pump so that any air bubbles stay in the radiator and not go into the pump?

 

[n0x1ous]

Isn't that a problem? I always thought you have to mount the radiator above the block/pump so that any air bubbles stay in the radiator and not go into the pump?

Yes. AMD recommends the Fury X rad to be above the card with the hoses on the bottom of radiator. Though I have seen many people ignore this and apparently have no issues with this card. I struggled over this when mounting mine as well but ended up going with AMD's suggestion.

 

[Madpacket]

I've been running dual Fury X's (mining ether for 6+ months) with the radiators slightly below where the cards are plugged in. No issues with cooling.

 

[digitaldurandal]

I've been running dual Fury X's (mining ether for 6+ months) with the radiators slightly below where the cards are plugged in. No issues with cooling.

Mine is definitely in the worst position possible, straight down fan blowing down on the radiator, there are holes in the bottom of the case designed for updward airflow. Unfortunately the rad does not fit in any position in my case. The top is blocked because the pump is slightly too long. The back is blocked because the motherboard actually only allows a small fan in that location. My drives hook up to the non window side so that only has a small fan.

I even have an extra fan I used a dremel to add on the window but it aligns with the GPU so the thickness of the radiator doesn't allow it to mount there either.

The case has holes for water cooling if I was using a custom loop but it is on the other side of the CPU and the XFX hoses are too short even if I wanted to risk taking the AIO apart at all.

My only options are either dremel another custom additional outlet which im not even sure if there is a spot because of the CPU cooler and GPU or get another case. I am looking to upgrade my CPU anyways so I may just push that forward but I was hoping to wait it out for Zen and the 7700k. I may be able to rig up something with zip ties. Have not seen any issues with cooling hit around 52c during gaming, although I get that the pump is probably working harder than it should.

 

[n0x1ous]

Newegg customer support agreed to let me have the promo Warhammer Total War even though this card was not in the promotion, so I pulled the trigger. That pushed me off the fence. Thank you Newegg

Life Pro Tip - be super nice to customer support and make their job easy and sometimes you get a little christmas gift This is the second time Newegg has hooked me up. Last time I bought the 290s I didn't realize they didn't come with the game promotion (all the other 290 models did except the MSI for some reason) until the cards arrived but they sent me one anyway.

Well, now to list my current GPU for sale.

Congrats on picking up a great card! This should warm your heart :biggrin:

https://www.computerbase.de/2016-07/doom-vulkan-benchmarks-amd-nvidia/#diagramm-doom-mit-vulkan-2560-1440

 

[digitaldurandal]

Congrats on picking up a great card! This should warm your heart :biggrin:

https://www.computerbase.de/2016-07/doom-vulkan-benchmarks-amd-nvidia/#diagramm-doom-mit-vulkan-2560-1440

Wow, the Fury X was hugely bottlenecked by the OGL driver.

 

[RussianSensation]

-Already have a Freesync monitor
-Can sell my other 290 for ~160 making the total upgrade cost 280
-Currently using a 2500k, will upgrade once Zen releases to either 6700k, 6850k or Zen depending on prices and performance at that time.

Is this a fair price at $440 AR?

Unless playing DX12 games, the extra functional units on the Fury X are largely underutilized against an overclocked Fury.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/9421/the-amd-radeon-r9-fury-review-feat-sapphire-asus/18

Sapphire Fury OC costs $350 and it's cool and quiet. On that basis, I don't think the Fury X is worth it even at $400 against the Fury.

Since the R9 290 has more or less bottomed out in resale value, we get:

1440p
$160 R9 290 = 61%
$350 Fury = 79% (30% faster)
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/EVGA/GTX_1070_SC/24.html

That's more than double the cost for 30% increase in performance. Not worth it to me unless you'll be mining with the Fury to offset the upgrade cost. I would honestly just keep the R9 290 for another 12-18 months and resell it next year for $110-120. You'd only lose another $40-50 in resale value but chances are $620-700 GTX1080 level of performance will drop to $450-500. It's hard to predict the future but I am going to wager that the resale value on the Hawaii card will drop a lot less in the next 12-18 months than it will on a GTX1080. An AIB 1080 is more or less 2X faster than the 290. If your budget today is $440-450, just wait it out and buy a card 75-100% faster than yours not a one with just 30% more performance.