Fury X2 Burn in success 100%, shipping soon!

[caswow]

it actually doesnt matter what amd does people complain.

release a 4gb x2 card? people cry its useless.
market it as vr card? people cry its useless.

 

[garagisti]

it actually doesnt matter what amd does people complain.

release a 4gb x2 card? people cry its useless.
market it as vr card? people cry its useless.

I think with a price closer to $900, it could push a fair few units for the niche product that it is. I think this may have been another reason why AMD went air-cooler route, if it has. It can certainly bring down the costs a bit, or does it?

 

[MrTeal]

It is pretty niche, but given that Polaris probably won't be out for another 5 months it makes sense given AMD's stated goals. They want Fiji X2 to launch and be focused on VR, and it gives them the best single card solution for VR when Oculus launches later this month. For someone looking to game on a flat panel it doesn't make a whole lot of sense (assuming a ~$1000 pricetag) at this point in time, but for VR it might still be a good bit better than any single 14nm card released this year.

 

[Kenmitch]

It is pretty niche, but given that Polaris probably won't be out for another 5 months it makes sense given AMD's stated goals. They want Fiji X2 to launch and be focused on VR, and it gives them the best single card solution for VR when Oculus launches later this month. For someone looking to game on a flat panel it doesn't make a whole lot of sense (assuming a ~$1000 pricetag) at this point in time, but for VR it might still be a good bit better than any single 14nm card released this year.

The only real solution for a SFF rig with a single PCI slot for the forseable future most likely.

 

[richaron]

Looks like mATX mounted upside down, 90° riser, & dual 'nano' with blower. Makes sense to mount the gpu at the 'top' & have a blower in a small case like that, I haven't seen much in the way of SFF rads... Plus when case is on it's side ('top' surface => 'front') you have heaps easier access to the GPU ports.

I think it's a good decision to delay dual Fiji - even the intel superfriends will agree; ever since AMD lead with dual core CPUs they've been complaining software isn't ready.

Now AMD's Fiji drivers are maturing, DX12 games are maturing, and VR systems are around the corner to take advantage of this grunt. So release day reviews and early adopters will have little choice but to get some hype. Dual Fiji will have at least 6 months before Polaris are on the market, and probably much longer as the most powerful single card.

 

[LTC8K6]

it actually doesnt matter what amd does people complain.

release a 4gb x2 card? people cry its useless.
market it as vr card? people cry its useless.

It either performs well, or it doesn't.
It either sells well, or it doesn't.

Doesn't matter too much what people in forums say.

 

[Pariah]

Major tech site. Quite a sizable number of AMD faithful here. Chime in if you have been waiting for this product and plan to buy one at release.

 

[richaron]

Major tech site. Quite a sizable number of AMD faithful here. Chime in if you have been waiting for this product and plan to buy one at release.

I think the "AMD faithful" are already pretty well informed of current and future hardware/software and may be less likely to buy a dual Fiji than many other groups you could list.

E.g. "VR faithful" may better represented, or specifically "Early VR adopters". And there are always those who simply must have the best, no matter who makes it.

Edit: Personally I'm "AMD faithful", but I also run Linux and my next upgrade is waiting until the Star Citizen era. That's the problem: "AMD faithful" are also enthusiast. Enthusiasts may already have a sweet PC, or like me have odd priorities (like refusing another 28nm product).

 

[Elixer]

Burn in success 100%, shipping soon!

They don't mention how long the 'burn in' test was...
I don't think there is that big of a market for these kinds of rigs, pretty much everyone I know wants something under $500, and, as we all know, you get crap at that level.

While they may have bragging rights, $2500+ for each system they make just puts it out of reach of the mainstream.

 

[topmounter]

Pre-Polaris SFF VR rig money sponge!

 

[3DVagabond]

I find strange that they are even doing this card so late (closer to Fury X release it would have been a bigger deal), with 4GB and the new process coming, even if a GTX 590 was faster than a 7970 for a while no one cared about it,

so this card could well be the fastest for a while, but will hit a wall with vram and games that don't scale well.

LOL @ Comparing this card to a GTX 590.

 

[3DVagabond]

Major tech site. Quite a sizable number of AMD faithful here. Chime in if you have been waiting for this product and plan to buy one at release.

Considering it's being heavily marketed in a prebuilt system, I'd say we aren't the primary target.

Considering the performance advantage that AMD has in multi GPU I'm surprised it's taken them this long to market a dual GPU card.

 

[YBS1]

Major tech site. Quite a sizable number of AMD faithful here. Chime in if you have been waiting for this product and plan to buy one at release.

If I was using a mini-ITX platform as my main gaming PC I'd almost certainly be in for one, but this is pretty much a non starter for any traditional sized pc, I'd imagine it's slower and more costly then just using two Fury X's (guessing, I've not really followed the lead up to the product).

Having said that, my current plan is to buy an ASRock mini-itx X99 motherboard once BW-E arrives to pair with my 5960X and be passed down to my kid and retire the 3930K. So I guess I could potentially be an interested party depending upon the timeline.

 

[Eymar]

Yeah with CLC coolers, SSDs, and no need for optical drives I've gone away from Full ATX mobos and cases. I only look at matx mobos or smaller now. If I were in the market right now to make a new system for VR I'd make it as portable and powerful as possible.

 

[railven]

Considering the performance advantage that AMD has in multi GPU I'm surprised it's taken them this long to market a dual GPU card.

You haven't been following AMD closely if it surprises you they sat on a strength.

Outside of niche VR junkies, this product lost most of it's steam. With the Polaris ship sailing at full speed.

 

[Timmah!]

I find strange that they are even doing this card so late (closer to Fury X release it would have been a bigger deal), with 4GB and the new process coming, even if a GTX 590 was faster than a 7970 for a while no one cared about it,

so this card could well be the fastest for a while, but will hit a wall with vram and games that don't scale well.

I did. BTW it was released before 7970. And it used to cost 600, when regular 580 was 450-500. You wish Fury X2 was priced like that, even if it was as "bad" as people make gtx590 to be.

 

[Aristotelian]

What gave you that idea?

Logic, I guess. Let's imagine that Fury X2s are available in stores by 1 April. When is Polaris meant to be released - I think within a few months after that. Would I rather spend USD 1000 on a multi gpu card on 1 April or wait a few months for a single gpu solution that will be just as fast. The Polaris release would cannibalize the sales of the Fury X2 - which I feel is being released a bit late in the product cycle (I have read on these forums it was on purpose to coincide with VR gaming).

Is this product therefore meant to be a bridge between current GPU offerings and the eventual Polaris release? It doesn't seem like it'll need to serve that function for very long. Just some thoughts from my end.

 

[monstercameron]

Logic, I guess. Let's imagine that Fury X2s are available in stores by 1 April. When is Polaris meant to be released - I think within a few months after that. Would I rather spend USD 1000 on a multi gpu card on 1 April or wait a few months for a single gpu solution that will be just as fast. The Polaris release would cannibalize the sales of the Fury X2 - which I feel is being released a bit late in the product cycle (I have read on these forums it was on purpose to coincide with VR gaming).

Is this product therefore meant to be a bridge between current GPU offerings and the eventual Polaris release? It doesn't seem like it'll need to serve that function for very long. Just some thoughts from my end.

Maybe I should clarify...what gave you the idea that high end Polaris would rival fiji let alone fijix2?

We know that they'll release 2 fiji gpus -possibly 4 skus- and we know that one is a low power laptop sku.

 

[Jacky60]

Major tech site. Quite a sizable number of AMD faithful here. Chime in if you have been waiting for this product and plan to buy one at release.

I was a member of the faithful and owned 6990s and 295x2s but now an apostate infidel and wouldn't consider it. Too little performance too late and never sufficient support for quad fire which would be only reason I'd buy it.

 

[Qwertilot]

Maybe I should clarify...what gave you the idea that high end Polaris would rival fiji let alone fijix2?

We know that they'll release 2 fiji gpus -possibly 4 skus- and we know that one is a low power laptop sku.

Wasn't that what he was saying? The existence of this being a potentially worrying pointer to how big the polaris stuff getting released soonish is going to be.

Wouldn't read too much into it though. AMD's recent release plans have hardly been ruled by iron logic

 

[Aristotelian]

Maybe I should clarify...what gave you the idea that high end Polaris would rival fiji let alone fijix2?

We know that they'll release 2 fiji gpus -possibly 4 skus- and we know that one is a low power laptop sku.

I hope to god that a high end Polaris card will rival Fiji. Has there ever been a video card release with a shrink to boot, where the flagship next generation was not better than the current generation?

The Fury X is what is is now. That version in Polaris ought to be much better. It could not possibly offer the same performance but use much less wattage (both Nvidia and AMD are touting 2x perf/watt) - while this is great for a laptop, when building a gaming rig it's serious power that I'll be looking for.

I would be hoping that the flagship polaris card is as fast, or faster than Fury X2. In the same way that I hope the next flagship Nvidia card is 2x as fast as a 980Ti. Maybe I'm too optimistic, but..yeah.

 

[railven]

I would be hoping that the flagship polaris card is as fast, or faster than Fury X2. In the same way that I hope the next flagship Nvidia card is 2x as fast as a 980Ti. Maybe I'm too optimistic, but..yeah.

It really depends on how these companies decide to release their products. The big version of each chip (assuming AMD follows NV's bread crumbs) will definitely come close to 2x current flag ships. I highly doubt the big chips will be the first on the market.

I wouldn't be surprised if we see current flagship+30-50% for each side with great temps/wattage numbers. And that's just following the last release where NV release half Kepler and AMD was having teething issues with GCN. (GCN matured looks like it can compete more 1:1).

 

[richaron]

I would be hoping that the flagship polaris card is as fast, or faster than Fury X2. In the same way that I hope the next flagship Nvidia card is 2x as fast as a 980Ti. Maybe I'm too optimistic, but..yeah.

Never going to happen. Never. Never happened before (iirc) and never will. That's not the way this business works, even if it was possible.

You're setting yourself up for disappointment.