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Oyeve

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Thraxen
Radio and replaceable battery

Never gonna happen. Apple makes a mint servicing ipods.

I wish it had a parametric equalizer.
 

JackBurton

Lifer
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I don't understand what you guys are talking about when you want a radio with your future iPod. You can get a kick ass add-on radio here for your iPod NOW.
 

MrX8503

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ipods are by far the most overhyped electronic device ever.

Future ipods should not have built in lithium batteries. I cant believe people tolerate ipods dieing from the battery.
 

ddviper

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the back of the ipod should become a giant widescreen. That would be awsome, giving you about a 3-4in viewing screen.
 

dBTelos

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How about, much less money, and a better built in amp. That would satisfy the name of an MP3 player, while improving it. Think of it, you can pick up a 60GB iPod with great high quality playback for $100 in the future. That would be nice, rather then a 32-in-one, $800, barely portable device IMO.
 

JackBurton

Lifer
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Originally posted by: dBTelos
How about, much less money, and a better built in amp. That would satisfy the name of an MP3 player, while improving it. Think of it, you can pick up a 60GB iPod with great high quality playback for $100 in the future. That would be nice, rather then a 32-in-one, $800, barely portable device IMO.

Ooo, that would be great. How about a 200GB iPod for $1? That would be even better. :roll:
 

Thraxen

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Dec 3, 2001
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Originally posted by: JackBurton
I don't understand what you guys are talking about when you want a radio with your future iPod. You can get a kick ass add-on radio here for your iPod NOW.

That does look nice, but it's still a $50 add-on for a basic radio that should be standard on any MP3 IMO... especially at the prices Apple charges.
 

JackBurton

Lifer
Jul 18, 2000
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Originally posted by: Thraxen
Originally posted by: JackBurton
I don't understand what you guys are talking about when you want a radio with your future iPod. You can get a kick ass add-on radio here for your iPod NOW.

That does look nice, but it's still a $50 add-on for a basic radio that should be standard on any MP3 IMO... especially at the prices Apple charges.

I actually think Apple iPod prices are right in line. How much are other 4GB flash based players? I think $250 is a more than a fair price for a 4GB iPod Nano. It's SUPER thin, beautiful display, and a great interface. And native support with iTunes ain't a bad feature either.

One of my first MP3 players was a 128MB Intel player and it was about $350. But that was a looong time ago when MP3 players were first introduced.
 

Thraxen

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Dec 3, 2001
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Originally posted by: JackBurton
Originally posted by: Thraxen
Originally posted by: JackBurton
I don't understand what you guys are talking about when you want a radio with your future iPod. You can get a kick ass add-on radio here for your iPod NOW.

That does look nice, but it's still a $50 add-on for a basic radio that should be standard on any MP3 IMO... especially at the prices Apple charges.

I actually think Apple iPod prices are right in line. How much are other 4GB flash based players? I think $250 is a more than a fair price for a 4GB iPod Nano. It's SUPER thin, beautiful display, and a great interface. And native support with iTunes ain't a bad feature either.

One of my first MP3 players was a 128MB Intel player and it was about $350. But that was a looong time ago when MP3 players were first introduced.


Yes, but many of those players in the same price range have radios already. That's really my point.
 

w00t

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Nov 5, 2004
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Originally posted by: corkyg
A user replaceable battery would be a good move. Recharge - yeah - but be able to change on the move to a fully charge one when travelling - like my Creative Zen Vision has.

ive seen plentry of guides on this subject with pictures and videos it's not hard at all anyone can do it.

I like the idea of being able to download music straight to your ipod from a wifi zone that's a great idea.
 

JackBurton

Lifer
Jul 18, 2000
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Originally posted by: Thraxen
Originally posted by: JackBurton
Originally posted by: Thraxen
Originally posted by: JackBurton
I don't understand what you guys are talking about when you want a radio with your future iPod. You can get a kick ass add-on radio here for your iPod NOW.

That does look nice, but it's still a $50 add-on for a basic radio that should be standard on any MP3 IMO... especially at the prices Apple charges.

I actually think Apple iPod prices are right in line. How much are other 4GB flash based players? I think $250 is a more than a fair price for a 4GB iPod Nano. It's SUPER thin, beautiful display, and a great interface. And native support with iTunes ain't a bad feature either.

One of my first MP3 players was a 128MB Intel player and it was about $350. But that was a looong time ago when MP3 players were first introduced.


Yes, but many of those players in the same price range have radios already. That's really my point.

Can you please give me an example of a 4GB flash based MP3 player that has a radio and is $250? I know about the SanDisk Sansa but that thing is AWFUL!
 

Thraxen

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What's wrong with the Sansa? Flash memory, mini SD slot, radio (which can be recorded), color screen, can display pictures and video clips, user replaceable battery... It's ability to do playlists isn't as good as an IPod, but other than that it's pretty decent.
 

JackBurton

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Originally posted by: Thraxen
What's wrong with the Sansa? Flash memory, mini SD slot, radio (which can be recorded), clor screen, can display pictures and video clips, user replaceable battery... It's ability to do playlists isn't as good as an IPod, but other than that it's pretty decent.

Have you used the wanna-be iPod navagation wheel? Holy crap, that thing sucks.
 

Thraxen

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Yeah, I have. My wife has one. I didn't really have any problem working the wheel. I did find that the wheel gets in the way of the directional buttons, but not to the point that it was unworkable. But the wheel itself worked perfectly.

I don't own an iPod, or any MP3 player unless you count a PSP, but my sister has been through two iPods. Both died within months. They developed that issue where they would stop responding to any button presses of any kind and just be locked up for hours straight. I'm not sure how much of a problem that is anymore, but a while back it wasn't all that uncommon. You can search the internet and read about it. I've just never been sold on iPods for various reasons. Yeah, the software side it great, but the hardware is nothing spectacular.

Anyway, I just find portable music players that don't have radios to be inherently silly. I have always hated that about MP3 players. Portable radios have been around many years, why strip the radio when you could just add MP3 ability? But now radios are becoming much more common, but Apple seems to be behind the curve.

 

igowerf

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Originally posted by: corkyg
A user replaceable battery would be a good move. Recharge - yeah - but be able to change on the move to a fully charge one when travelling - like my Creative Zen Vision has.

That would definitely be a nice addition, but I'd want them to add this feature without compromising the solid build of an iPod. I don't want to feel a flimsy battery cover or anything like that.
 

JackBurton

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Thraxen
Yeah, I have. My wife has one. I didn't really have any problem working the wheel. I did find that the wheel gets in the way of the directional buttons, but not to the point that it was unworkable. But the wheel itself worked perfectly.

I don't own an iPod, or any MP3 player unless you count a PSP, but my sister has been through two iPods. Both died within months. They developed that issue where they would stop responding to any button presses of any kind and just be locked up for hours straight. I'm not sure how much of a problem that is anymore, but a while back it wasn't all that uncommon. You can search the internet and read about it. I've just never been sold on iPods for various reasons. Yeah, the software side it great, but the hardware is nothing spectacular.

Anyway, I just find portable music players that don't have radios to be inherently silly. I have always hated that about MP3 players. Portable radios have been around many years, why strip the radio when you could just add MP3 ability? But now radios are becoming much more common, but Apple seems to be behind the curve.

I think to each his own. With a 4GB MP3 player, I don't need a radio. I have a radio in my car and don't even listen to FM radio anymore. And I have a 1hr commute each day to work. Satelite radio for the win.
 

MrX8503

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Originally posted by: igowerf
Originally posted by: corkyg
A user replaceable battery would be a good move. Recharge - yeah - but be able to change on the move to a fully charge one when travelling - like my Creative Zen Vision has.

That would definitely be a nice addition, but I'd want them to add this feature without compromising the solid build of an iPod. I don't want to feel a flimsy battery cover or anything like that.

But yet you can deal with an ipods battery lifespan of 1 year and sending it in for repair?

I have a creative zen micro, so i cant speak for other mp3 players but the battery cover is a pretty thick plastic that fits snugly.
 

stickybytes

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I think future ipods should have an option to transfer music via wifi or bluetooth. That would make the ipod a lot more physically appealing and make room for more attractive cases since they wouldn't have to consider that wide port on the bottom. I often find myself skipping over music i should have transferred over to the ipod because i was too lazy to stick that usb wire into the back of my computer.

Also, I think the ipod should have a built in radio although im sure that even if the ipod did come with a built in radio, rarely would we use it. It's just another one of those things we say we really want but end up barely using.
 

0roo0roo

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Originally posted by: KeithTalent
I really wish they would just work on improving the battery life. The functionality is fine as far as I am concerned, but the batery dies much too quickly. Alternatively they could just switch it over to a non-proprietary battery I guess, but that will never happen.

imperfect solution but pretty well integrated
http://www.gizmodo.com/gadgets/portable...a/iluv-ipod-battery-booster-161589.php
http://www.nyko.com/nyko/categories/?c=102
there are others that are bigger and give huge battery life, or use aa's


what i'd like is fm. i do like npr. but i don't like how most of the current players record as some kinda low quality wav file, thats just sh*t. that and timed recording, or scheduled for an automated pod cast like capability.

and xvid/divx playback without having reencode to 320x240, thats a pain.


I was thinking of water proof.. one you can bring into the pool..

well it exists as accessory. h20 ipod case http://www.gadling.com/2005/08/17/waterproof-ipod-cases-from-h2o-audio-review/

Never gonna happen. Apple makes a mint servicing ipods.

i have my doubts. theres shipping then handling and the battery costs plenty by itself, then u gotta pay workers to fiddle with the ipods and basically refurb them since they dont' give the exact same one back right? seems costly. its not so bad at the moment, finding ipod batteries is easy. it just takes a bit of elbow grease to install. adding a door and user accessable battery bay to the ipod would mess with form factor thats sure. and i know with ipod batteries they will be around for a while..the market that is. with other players you gotta wonder how long before the manufacturer drops support..or where to even buy the battery. ipod batteries are sold even at frys, u gotta probably call creative or whatever for their battery. how much does a zen vision or zen nano battery cost anyways?

ithink future ipods should have an option to transfer music via wifi or bluetooth.

i think theres already a player out there that does this. it doesn't work that well in practice though, slow, battery suck, if you plug it in for power..you are no longer wireless anyways. so its not a good idea. there have also been cameras that had wifi, never worked well. wifi is power hungry, you'll have to use a wire to power regardless.

But yet you can deal with an ipods battery lifespan of 1 year and sending it in for repair?

ipods lithium ion battery has the same life span as any other lithium ion battery. if you use it all the time you'll kill it faster than someone who occasionally uses it. i doubt most kill it in one year anymore than people kill cellphone or laptop batteries in one year.

I think to each his own. With a 4GB MP3 player, I don't need a radio. I have a radio in my car and don't even listen to FM radio anymore. And I have a 1hr commute each day to work. Satelite radio for the win.

i guess the problem is using an expensive lithium ion battery to play the radio. one can get a rather small sony radio only walkman am/fm for 20bucks, 9 bucks for fm only, lasts dozens of hours on an aa.
 
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