Those are basically the easiest games you can possibly run... not a very good representative test at all.
I was CPU bound in fallout 4 at 1080p60fps. CPU bound in the Division as well. CPU/memory bound in Witcher for minimum frame rate.
Your minimum framerates will improve quite a bit with a platform upgrade too between the CPU increase and RAM speed increase. Lots of little dips and stutters you got used to seeing will no longer happen.
a 6700k @ 4.5+ with DDR4 3600 would be a noticeable improvement even with your 290 and even more so on a 1070 where you push into the upper boundary of what FPS your 2500k can push.
But yeah, what the hell do I know, I'm only a guy who had a 2500k @ 4.5 with a 290 who upgraded his platform.
how long do you plan to keep your card? your budget? do you mind selling your card after a year? so many questions you need to answer before people here can help you. Don't fight heir advice, they are just trying to help you.
Those are basically the easiest games you can possibly run... not a very good representative test at all.
I was CPU bound in fallout 4 at 1080p60fps. CPU bound in the Division as well. CPU/memory bound in Witcher for minimum frame rate.
Your minimum framerates will improve quite a bit with a platform upgrade too between the CPU increase and RAM speed increase. Lots of little dips and stutters you got used to seeing will no longer happen.
a 6700k @ 4.5+ with DDR4 3600 would be a noticeable improvement even with your 290 and even more so on a 1070 where you push into the upper boundary of what FPS your 2500k can push.
But yeah, what the hell do I know, I'm only a guy who had a 2500k @ 4.5 with a 290 who upgraded his platform.
Moving to 6700k @ 4.5 ghz w/ 3000 MT/s DDR4 or higher will move your CPU bottleneck FPS higher.
Moving to an Nvidia Card will also move your CPU bottleneck higher.
Moving to another AMD card will not move your CPU bottleneck an inch.
If your 144 hz display is for anything other than e-peen, your going to have to move to 6700k and/or move to an Nvidia card.
Turn marketing mode off and read the whole sentence.
Central Processing Unit determinative frame time limits.
I know you want him to "upgrade" from his R9 290 to the RX 480, but let's try not to waste the money of at least one seeker of forum help today shall we?
You know? Really? Not at all, I would advise him to wait. Like I've been doing in several of these threads. People already on 290/390/970/980 etc, shouldn't sidegrade to RX 480.
If he wants future proof, I can only recommend GCN based GPUs at the current time. I would be lying if I gave advice when the OP brings up future proof and I recommend any NV GPU.
So you are telling me that you wasted money on a mining farm of R9 290s and that your "upgrade" to the RX 480 was due to maxwell's demon stealing your credit card to order it?
Tells OP to wait until Vega comes out (Current Estimate: Q2 2017)
Mind you, this is a recommendation for someone asking for information about CPU bottlenecks.
Doesn't even wait the 6 days it took for the 1060 to be announced.
Hmm......
Read it again bud.
http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=38346255&postcount=31
I raised his concerns already regarding CPU. I also mentioned the 1070 will do 1440p @ 60, but again, OP has concerns about future proof.
You want to recommend 1060, go ahead.
Moving to 6700k @ 4.5 ghz w/ 3000 MT/s DDR4 or higher will move your CPU bottleneck FPS higher.
Moving to an Nvidia Card will also move your CPU bottleneck higher.
Moving to another AMD card will not move your CPU bottleneck an inch.
If your 144 hz display is for anything other than e-peen, your going to have to move to 6700k and/or move to an Nvidia card.
Turn marketing mode off and read the whole sentence.
Central Processing Unit determinative frame time limits.
I know you want him to "upgrade" from his R9 290 to the RX 480, but let's try not to waste the money of at least one seeker of forum help today shall we?
Moving to an Nvidia Card will also move your CPU bottleneck higher.
Moving to another AMD card will not move your CPU bottleneck an inch.
Thanks for the feedback guys.
My longer term plans are to upgrade everything. My first upgrade will be the video card followed by my CPU, MB and memory early next year.
I am aware there may be a bottleneck upgrading my GPU but at the moment I don't always get 60+ fps. Upgrading to a 1070 would definitely push my games past that 60 fps point and then I can start looking at getting a 1440p monitor to bump up the res.
My only concern was getting a 1070 now and regretting not waiting for the next AMD card which will have superior DX 12 support. This will then be followed by Nvidia bringing out their next card less than a year superseding the 1070.
My impatience to upgrade mainly lies with the heat, noise and power consumption that my R9 290 pushes out. Waiting until next year isn't really an option for me so I may have to get a 1070 for now. That lack of DX 12 support really irks me, especially for the price they are asking.
I think it's such a shi*y practice by Nvidia to release cards the way they do. You can bet that withing 10 months a new card will be out with DX 12 support.
Care to share this lack of DX12 support with me? Do tell.
I was under the impression that because Nvidia have yet to correctly utilise Async compute in their GPU's it's hindering their performance in DX12 making them less efficient.
Guess I was wrong and that there isn't any lack of support and they are on par with AMD. Good news.
In DX11 and before IHVs wrote the drivers.
In DX12 game developers write the drivers.
It shouldn't be too much of a surprise that game developers don't actually write drivers, they invite the AMD and/or Nvidia team to come and write the drivers for them.
In DX11, there isn't really much a Developer + IHV combo agreement can do to actually hinder the other IHV, as the other IHV can always just write their own driver to run the game as they see fit.
In DX12, the IHV that is excluded (deliberately or not) literally can do nothing to rectify a badly written driver that the game developers (in league with their sponsoring IHV) makes.
AKA, the people crying for low level hardware addressing got their wish, and now we are back to basically the bad old days of API wars, only it's with just one api now, DX12.
In DX11 and before IHVs wrote the drivers.
In DX12 game developers write the drivers.
It shouldn't be too much of a surprise that game developers don't actually write drivers, they invite the AMD and/or Nvidia team to come and write the drivers for them.
In DX11, there isn't really much a Developer + IHV combo agreement can do to actually hinder the other IHV, as the other IHV can always just write their own driver to run the game as they see fit.
In DX12, the IHV that is excluded (deliberately or not) literally can do nothing to rectify a badly written driver that the game developers (in league with their sponsoring IHV) makes.
AKA, the people crying for low level hardware addressing got their wish, and now we are back to basically the bad old days of API wars, only it's with just one api now, DX12.
So does that mean Nvidia are still just as efficient as AMD with Dx12 despite Async Compute and all the fuss is just nonsense? That's good to know.
I might just get a 1070 then as DX12 won't make any difference
So does that mean Nvidia are still just as efficient as AMD with Dx12 despite Async Compute and all the fuss is just nonsense? That's good to know.
I might just get a 1070 then as DX12 won't make any difference