Futuremark has released a new patch and...

[nRollo]

If it suxors I'd be willing to lease it for a month

LOL- good point. I wonder if it will expect me to call it from work?

 

[Rogozhin]

A second marriage.



I'm serious rollo

rogo

 

[Cesar]

Originally posted by: Rollo

Rollo you are a fanboy stop foolling around

I noticed you didn't answer my questions though did you Cesar? I'll guarantee you this: If you haven't spent as much money as I have on ATI products, ATI wants "nVidia fanboys" like me for customers a LOT more than they want your misguided loyalty. What you guys don't seem to understand is that these people are not "friends" you're defending. They're big corporations whose interest in you goes exactly as far as the moment they get the money out of your wallets, at which point they could care less about you until it's time to ask for money again. I think a lot of the ATI loyalty is based on the old 3dfx wars in which the 3dfx faithful were left saying "Wait-you'll see" until nVidia swallowed 3dfx whole and made everything the faithful had posted a lie. I think a lot of those people resent nVidia and point to things like that ridiculous internal sales memo or the ridiculous 3dmark driver "cheats" as a reason to not buy nVidia. If you think the 3dmark thing is a big deal, I urge you not to buy nVidia. Me, I laugh at the 3mark thing because there aren't any DX9 games, and by the time there are, I'll have a different card anyway. I live in teh present, and have no loyalty beyond what runs the games I play fastest at the settings I want to use. Last October till now, that was ATI. Looks to me like it will be nVidia in June. When I want to upgrade again, I'll buy whoever is fastest, even if it's Jaton.

Rollo seriously no hard feeling but I think your a dumb ass buying a card every 6 months, spend all that money just for gaming I mean big time low life! im sorry to say it

 

[Megatomic]

Originally posted by: Cesar
Rollo seriously no hard feeling but I think your a dumb ass buying a card every 6 months, spend all that money just for gaming I mean big time low life! im sorry to say it

Why do you feel the need to make judgements about his spending habits? If he has the money to spend then it's his right and priviledge to do so. Some people just have more disposable money than others. I'd buy new video cards every 6 months if I had the means to do so, that's for sure.

 

[oldfart]

Old Fart:
I apologize, I misinterpreted your post(s) after a night of not much sleep due to back pain.

Apology accepted

 

[Arrowslinger]

If nvidia thought so little about 3DMark, then why do all the work on drivers for it?

ATI's response:

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The 1.9% performance gain comes from optimization of the two DX9 shaders (water and sky) in Game Test 4 . We render the scene exactly as intended by Futuremark, in full-precision floating point. Our shaders are mathematically and functionally identical to Futuremark's and there are no visual artifacts; we simply shuffle instructions to take advantage of our architecture. These are exactly the sort of optimizations that work in games to improve frame rates without reducing image quality and as such, are a realistic approach to a benchmark intended to measure in-game performance. However, we recognize that these can be used by some people to call into question the legitimacy of benchmark results, and so we are removing them from our driver as soon as is physically possible. We expect them to be gone by the next release of CATALYST.

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In short we will fix it.



nvidias response: "They are trying to make us look bad, give us our ball we are going HOME!"

 

[nRollo]

Cesar:

Rollo seriously no hard feeling but I think your a dumb ass buying a card every 6 months, spend all that money just for gaming I mean big time low life! im sorry to say it

Wow. You really would've hated me back in the days when there were more choices and I bought a new one every couple months.

It is interesting you consider me a "low life" because I buy a couple video cards a year. I was thinking of buying a wireless keyboard and mouse tomorrow, I suppose that will make me "Public Enemy Number One".

I'll try to do better.

 

[nRollo]

Megatomic:

I'd buy new video cards every 6 months if I had the means to do so, that's for sure.

Thanks- and can you tell this to my wife?

 

[Megatomic]

Originally posted by: Rollo
Megatomic:

I'd buy new video cards every 6 months if I had the means to do so, that's for sure.

Thanks- and can you tell this to my wife?

Only if you tell mine the same. She can't stand my penchant for buying new hardware.

 

[BenSkywalker]

Edit- Ben being an idiot removed

 

[oldfart]

Ben, That was not a sarcastic post. It was genuine. I think you need to have your morning cup of cofee before you post here.

 

[BenSkywalker]

My apologies and thanks then

 

[nRollo]

Hopefully newegg ships my 5800 tomorrow. I'm all hepped up to try the most infamous card in history.

 

[McArra]

NVidia did very bad, no excuses. And please, don't compare 25% from NVidia (cheating) and ATI's 1,9% (posible cheating).

 

[Schadenfroh]

Originally posted by: McArra
NVidia did very bad, no excuses. And please, don't compare 25% from NVidia (cheating) and ATI's 1,9% (posible cheating).

what do you mean "possible cheating" ati admited to it

 

[Megatomic]

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh

Originally posted by: McArra
NVidia did very bad, no excuses. And please, don't compare 25% from NVidia (cheating) and ATI's 1,9% (posible cheating).

what do you mean "possible cheating" ati admited to it

That's a fanboi for ya Schadenfroh.

 

[Yourself]

Check this out!!

quote "Futuremark now states that NVIDIA's driver design is an application specific optimization and not a cheat . "

I found it interesting anyway....


Self

PS-Sorry if this is a repost

 

[DaveSimmons]

Futuremark now has a deeper understanding of the situation and NVIDIA's optimization strategy. In the light of this, Futuremark now states that NVIDIA's driver design is an application specific optimization and not a cheat.

(to repeat my post in the GH version of this thread)

This is such an obvious and shameless lie that it's amazing they can bear to speak it. Sadly, the general public doesn't know enough about software development to see it for the bought-and-paid-for lie it is.

Inserting clipping planes tied to one specific camera path is so far from a legitimate optimization that only the small-brained technical writers at ZDent/CNet could fail to see it as an obvious cheat.

Sad, pathetic and disgusting behavior by both Futuremark and nvidia.

<-- happy with my GeForce3 and the GF2 before it. "Before the Dark Times"

 

[McArra]

I am not a fanboi !!! I just say it can be an optimisation or maybe a cheat, nothing else!!!