lazy? fvck you, dickhead. wake up everyday for 3 months after 4 hrs of sleep and see how often you get to someplace EXACTLY on time. i guarantee you'll be a couple minutes late here and there.
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
First off, 4 words: F**K Late Attendance Policies. They aren't a test of learning, they are trying to parent the student. I can understand a policy that penalizes you for not showing up at all, but being late is L-A-M-E.
With that being said, and assuming you did well in the class, tell the professor the truth and that you are willing to ameliorate the situation in any way possible (extra credit, crack favor, six pack of booze, 2 lap dances at the strip joint, whatever). However, if you did badly in the class, you're fighting an uphill battle.
Hell, I remember having an 88 in a class (A average over all 4 exams and B+ avg on 3 papers) and a prof dropped me to a C (78) because I didn't attend a stupid play. A PLAY!! Plus I skipped a bunch of classes because I could ace his easy ass tests by just reading the book and showing up for test day. In any case, I appealed it to the department and they took the side of the prof (surprise surprise). Sometimes you have to just suck it up and accept responsibility for your actions, even if the policy is freaking bogus. My .02
Originally posted by: eits
lazy? fvck you, dickhead. wake up everyday for 3 months after 4 hrs of sleep and see how often you get to someplace EXACTLY on time. i guarantee you'll be a couple minutes late here and there.
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
First off, 4 words: F**K Late Attendance Policies. They aren't a test of learning, they are trying to parent the student. I can understand a policy that penalizes you for not showing up at all, but being late is L-A-M-E.
With that being said, and assuming you did well in the class, tell the professor the truth and that you are willing to ameliorate the situation in any way possible (extra credit, crack favor, six pack of booze, 2 lap dances at the strip joint, whatever). However, if you did badly in the class, you're fighting an uphill battle.
Hell, I remember having an 88 in a class (A average over all 4 exams and B+ avg on 3 papers) and a prof dropped me to a C (78) because I didn't attend a stupid play. A PLAY!! Plus I skipped a bunch of classes because I could ace his easy ass tests by just reading the book and showing up for test day. In any case, I appealed it to the department and they took the side of the prof (surprise surprise). Sometimes you have to just suck it up and accept responsibility for your actions, even if the policy is freaking bogus. My .02
Originally posted by: captains
beat the crap outta him and then tell him you didnt take your meds cuz you didnt want to be late again
Originally posted by: Netopia
I've not read this whole thread, only the first post. What I was going to post is actually similar to what Jaylllo said.
Is there any possibility of getting your Doctor to write a letter saying that in his professional medical opinion, that you are currently and for x-amount of time previously have been disabled.
Having been labelled as disabled, you fall under the American's With Disabilities Act. As such, that professor may not be able to LEGALLY do what he is doing, especially if you can prove that you did all other work and that he was not willing to make any effort to work with your disability.
You might also want to call the people here: http://www.ed.gov/about/offices/list/ocr/index.html
It's the Office for Civil Rights of the US Department of Education.
IF you can work this out, I think the probability is that the University will force the professor to change his stance, since doing otherwise would mean they would be open to a lawsuit and federal fines.
Joe
Originally posted by: Doboji
Originally posted by: dullard
We'll see what you say when you are in the emergency room needing surgery to save your life, and every moment is critical and the doctors show up 3 mintues late.Originally posted by: Doboji
****** that ... his professor is just a power tripping SOB... there's no need to be an ass like that... in real life you're not going to get in any trouble for showing up for work 3 minutes late.
See you are an idiot... and obviously don't know anything about the medical field. Doctors arrival time at the hospital is WAY before any operation they do is taking place... The doc is there on duty... the schedules of the docs overlap... so that docs can, and quite often do get to work a few minutes late. There's still someone there on duty...
There are very very very few jobs in the world where being 3 minutes late matters... Military being one of them... other than that... even the fvcking president can be 3 minutes late.
-Max
Originally posted by: mattpegher
Being an Emergency physician, I see you do not know of what you speak. Only we ER physicians and hospitalist work in such a manner. The other docs may take call but there 24 hr coverage is from home. And we hate it when our relief arrives late. How would you like it after a 12 or 24 hour shift to be relieved late, especially when it usually takes 15 minutes to sign out all the patients. Making people wait usually leads to a lawsuit in our business.
Originally posted by: eits
sleep deprivation isn't exactly an easy thing to tackle... you can't just say "well, just wake up and quit being a baby about it... blahdy blah blah"... it's much more complex.
Originally posted by: Xanis
Originally posted by: eits
sleep deprivation isn't exactly an easy thing to tackle... you can't just say "well, just wake up and quit being a baby about it... blahdy blah blah"... it's much more complex.
I fail to see how losing 3 minutes of sleep is considered "deprivation". The fact of the matter is, you were late. No ifs, ands or buts about it, you were late. Doesn't matter if it was 1 time or 9 times, you were still LATE. Don't give us this BS about your meds or whatever the fvck is making you late, it comes down to you not taking responsibility. You take the meds, you know their effects, so therefore you should know how to operate your life while on them.
Also, I've heard a lot of BS from people who say being 3 minutes late isn't that big of a deal. Oh really, you think so? I work with people who call out all the time saying that they will be late and it screws us all up because we're understaffed when the park opens or closes and people can't go on the rides because an employee is late or didn't show. People that show up late like you piss me off.
Originally posted by: Doboji
Originally posted by: mattpegher
Being an Emergency physician, I see you do not know of what you speak. Only we ER physicians and hospitalist work in such a manner. The other docs may take call but there 24 hr coverage is from home. And we hate it when our relief arrives late. How would you like it after a 12 or 24 hour shift to be relieved late, especially when it usually takes 15 minutes to sign out all the patients. Making people wait usually leads to a lawsuit in our business.
My fiancee is a doctor... a resident in pediatrics... She has q4 call quite often... 30+ hour shifts... and I promise you, neither her, nor any of her fellow residents even notice +- 3 minutes...
Originally posted by: eits
Originally posted by: Xanis
Originally posted by: eits
sleep deprivation isn't exactly an easy thing to tackle... you can't just say "well, just wake up and quit being a baby about it... blahdy blah blah"... it's much more complex.
I fail to see how losing 3 minutes of sleep is considered "deprivation". The fact of the matter is, you were late. No ifs, ands or buts about it, you were late. Doesn't matter if it was 1 time or 9 times, you were still LATE. Don't give us this BS about your meds or whatever the fvck is making you late, it comes down to you not taking responsibility. You take the meds, you know their effects, so therefore you should know how to operate your life while on them.
Also, I've heard a lot of BS from people who say being 3 minutes late isn't that big of a deal. Oh really, you think so? I work with people who call out all the time saying that they will be late and it screws us all up because we're understaffed when the park opens or closes and people can't go on the rides because an employee is late or didn't show. People that show up late like you piss me off.
give me head.
Originally posted by: eits
Originally posted by: MichaelD
I'm sorry that your meds have that effect on you.
That said:
If I know that the train I take to work is 15 minutes late EVERY morning, no matter what, I leave at least 15 minutes early to make up for it.
Your meds making you sleepy and making it difficult for you to get up in the morning is NOT an excuse for being late. Period.
Judging by your avatar, I'd say you are a med student; you should know better, slacker.
my meds keep me up... it's a stimulant and i metabolize medication slowly. it's either i take the medicine and maintain a level of attentiveness and focus during class and studying or not take the medicine, go to class on time, but not be able to understand anything that goes on and slack off.
The guy is going to fail you, under these circumstances, in a grad class? What school do you go to, where grad classes are at 7:20 a.m. and profs are such douchebags?Originally posted by: eits
in order to get a doctorate, you need to have a certain number of classroom hours.Originally posted by: Homerboy
you can be failed for non-attendance?
Keep trying to parent kids with your late attendance penalty drivel, and we'll keep laughing at you. Because in the end, it doesn't matter, as long you get a good job in something you're happy in after college (I don't know about you, but I'm livin' it up). One elective class isn't going to make or break your career, wake tfu.Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
First off, 4 words: F**K Late Attendance Policies. They aren't a test of learning, they are trying to parent the student. I can understand a policy that penalizes you for not showing up at all, but being late is L-A-M-E.
With that being said, and assuming you did well in the class, tell the professor the truth and that you are willing to ameliorate the situation in any way possible (extra credit, crack favor, six pack of booze, 2 lap dances at the strip joint, whatever). However, if you did badly in the class, you're fighting an uphill battle.
Hell, I remember having an 88 in a class (A average over all 4 exams and B+ avg on 3 papers) and a prof dropped me to a C (78) because I didn't attend a stupid play. A PLAY!! Plus I skipped a bunch of classes because I could ace his easy ass tests by just reading the book and showing up for test day. In any case, I appealed it to the department and they took the side of the prof (surprise surprise). Sometimes you have to just suck it up and accept responsibility for your actions, even if the policy is freaking bogus. My .02
So, you disrespected the prof, and expected him to pass you with a +80?
4 words
Grow the **** up.