fvcking awesome :(

[eits]

lazy? fvck you, dickhead. wake up everyday for 3 months after 4 hrs of sleep and see how often you get to someplace EXACTLY on time. i guarantee you'll be a couple minutes late here and there.

 

[RichardE]

Originally posted by: SP33Demon
First off, 4 words: F**K Late Attendance Policies. They aren't a test of learning, they are trying to parent the student. I can understand a policy that penalizes you for not showing up at all, but being late is L-A-M-E.

With that being said, and assuming you did well in the class, tell the professor the truth and that you are willing to ameliorate the situation in any way possible (extra credit, crack favor, six pack of booze, 2 lap dances at the strip joint, whatever). However, if you did badly in the class, you're fighting an uphill battle.

Hell, I remember having an 88 in a class (A average over all 4 exams and B+ avg on 3 papers) and a prof dropped me to a C (78) because I didn't attend a stupid play. A PLAY!! Plus I skipped a bunch of classes because I could ace his easy ass tests by just reading the book and showing up for test day. In any case, I appealed it to the department and they took the side of the prof (surprise surprise). Sometimes you have to just suck it up and accept responsibility for your actions, even if the policy is freaking bogus. My .02

So, you disrespected the prof, and expected him to pass you with a +80?

4 words

Grow the **** up.

 

[RichardE]

Originally posted by: eits
lazy? fvck you, dickhead. wake up everyday for 3 months after 4 hrs of sleep and see how often you get to someplace EXACTLY on time. i guarantee you'll be a couple minutes late here and there.

Heh, I'm living that dream..only 2 months of 4-5 hour sleep, but I am on time for the important stuff (late for the non-important stuff usually )

 

[imported_Imp]

From what I see, professor is a dip *hit. However, as much of an ass he is, it was clearly stated right from the beginning what the policy was. I got 0 on an assignment for handing it in about 1 minute late (lucky it was worth 1%). My last job and current job, I always get to work within 10 minutes after my "starting" time. Yep, I am lazy and irresponsible. If I really try, I can get anywhere on time, but truth is I don't. Also, University is a cash cow, don't ever forget that. Geniuses at my University decided to setup a mandatory "camp" right smack in the summer. So they like raising tuition fees, but don't like you working. Just told my supervisor and burned all my bridges at the same time by needing two weeks off to go to something I don't even want to. If I said anything before they hired me, they wouldn't have.

Now here's a different spin. Within the first month of my new job this summer, I've been "spoken" to for staying "too late." Naturally, I'd have thought staying late was no problem and people who do would be considered "hardworking." Wrong, I'm working offsite at various offices and you can get into *hit for not leaving within 10 minutes of your designated off time.

 

[cKGunslinger]

Originally posted by: SP33Demon
First off, 4 words: F**K Late Attendance Policies. They aren't a test of learning, they are trying to parent the student. I can understand a policy that penalizes you for not showing up at all, but being late is L-A-M-E.

With that being said, and assuming you did well in the class, tell the professor the truth and that you are willing to ameliorate the situation in any way possible (extra credit, crack favor, six pack of booze, 2 lap dances at the strip joint, whatever). However, if you did badly in the class, you're fighting an uphill battle.

Hell, I remember having an 88 in a class (A average over all 4 exams and B+ avg on 3 papers) and a prof dropped me to a C (78) because I didn't attend a stupid play. A PLAY!! Plus I skipped a bunch of classes because I could ace his easy ass tests by just reading the book and showing up for test day. In any case, I appealed it to the department and they took the side of the prof (surprise surprise). Sometimes you have to just suck it up and accept responsibility for your actions, even if the policy is freaking bogus. My .02

I love how you first detail how you should be able to fvck around all you want without reprimand or repercussion, then follow up with a "you have to just suck it up and accept responsibility for your actions." Classic! :laugh:

 

[151528]

Originally posted by: captains
beat the crap outta him and then tell him you didnt take your meds cuz you didnt want to be late again

 

[Thorny]

Originally posted by: Netopia
I've not read this whole thread, only the first post. What I was going to post is actually similar to what Jaylllo said.

Is there any possibility of getting your Doctor to write a letter saying that in his professional medical opinion, that you are currently and for x-amount of time previously have been disabled.

Having been labelled as disabled, you fall under the American's With Disabilities Act. As such, that professor may not be able to LEGALLY do what he is doing, especially if you can prove that you did all other work and that he was not willing to make any effort to work with your disability.

You might also want to call the people here: http://www.ed.gov/about/offices/list/ocr/index.html

It's the Office for Civil Rights of the US Department of Education.

IF you can work this out, I think the probability is that the University will force the professor to change his stance, since doing otherwise would mean they would be open to a lawsuit and federal fines.

Joe

I can't believe your serious. Your saying that someone with ADD/ADHD should qualify as disabled????? Hell, why should he even go to school, we should go ahead and send him an SSI check now and sign him up for federal benefits.

Oh, and you should go pick up the phone. The ACLU is on the line and they're looking for a new president.

 

[mattpegher]

Being an Emergency physician, I see you do not know of what you speak. Only we ER physicians and hospitalist work in such a manner. The other docs may take call but there 24 hr coverage is from home. And we hate it when our relief arrives late. How would you like it after a 12 or 24 hour shift to be relieved late, especially when it usually takes 15 minutes to sign out all the patients. Making people wait usually leads to a lawsuit in our business.

 

[mattpegher]

Originally posted by: Doboji

Originally posted by: dullard

Originally posted by: Doboji
****** that ... his professor is just a power tripping SOB... there's no need to be an ass like that... in real life you're not going to get in any trouble for showing up for work 3 minutes late.

We'll see what you say when you are in the emergency room needing surgery to save your life, and every moment is critical and the doctors show up 3 mintues late.

See you are an idiot... and obviously don't know anything about the medical field. Doctors arrival time at the hospital is WAY before any operation they do is taking place... The doc is there on duty... the schedules of the docs overlap... so that docs can, and quite often do get to work a few minutes late. There's still someone there on duty...

There are very very very few jobs in the world where being 3 minutes late matters... Military being one of them... other than that... even the fvcking president can be 3 minutes late.

-Max

Sorry the quote for my last post.

 

[undeclared]

Honestly, I don't know why.. but every teacher I've had like that was an asshole even before they set such a policy.

Even when I was never a minute late, and didn't fail these classes - I tended to see the pattern.

It's a bullshit practice and I don't like the teacher that do it.

 

[Aimster]

what a piece of ****** prof.

He is an ass.

 

[undeclared]

If I was a teacher, my policies would be like this:

Come to class or don't, but hand in assignments and do tests. That's it, that's all.

Fail the tests and fail the course, but assignments are important for better marks

 

[Doboji]

Originally posted by: mattpegher
Being an Emergency physician, I see you do not know of what you speak. Only we ER physicians and hospitalist work in such a manner. The other docs may take call but there 24 hr coverage is from home. And we hate it when our relief arrives late. How would you like it after a 12 or 24 hour shift to be relieved late, especially when it usually takes 15 minutes to sign out all the patients. Making people wait usually leads to a lawsuit in our business.

My fiancee is a doctor... a resident in pediatrics... She has q4 call quite often... 30+ hour shifts... and I promise you, neither her, nor any of her fellow residents even notice +- 3 minutes...

 

[xanis]

Originally posted by: eits
sleep deprivation isn't exactly an easy thing to tackle... you can't just say "well, just wake up and quit being a baby about it... blahdy blah blah"... it's much more complex.

I fail to see how losing 3 minutes of sleep is considered "deprivation". The fact of the matter is, you were late. No ifs, ands or buts about it, you were late. Doesn't matter if it was 1 time or 9 times, you were still LATE. Don't give us this BS about your meds or whatever the fvck is making you late, it comes down to you not taking responsibility. You take the meds, you know their effects, so therefore you should know how to operate your life while on them.

Also, I've heard a lot of BS from people who say being 3 minutes late isn't that big of a deal. Oh really, you think so? I work with people who call out all the time saying that they will be late and it screws us all up because we're understaffed when the park opens or closes and people can't go on the rides because an employee is late or didn't show. People that show up late like you piss me off.

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: Xanis

Originally posted by: eits
sleep deprivation isn't exactly an easy thing to tackle... you can't just say "well, just wake up and quit being a baby about it... blahdy blah blah"... it's much more complex.

I fail to see how losing 3 minutes of sleep is considered "deprivation". The fact of the matter is, you were late. No ifs, ands or buts about it, you were late. Doesn't matter if it was 1 time or 9 times, you were still LATE. Don't give us this BS about your meds or whatever the fvck is making you late, it comes down to you not taking responsibility. You take the meds, you know their effects, so therefore you should know how to operate your life while on them.

Also, I've heard a lot of BS from people who say being 3 minutes late isn't that big of a deal. Oh really, you think so? I work with people who call out all the time saying that they will be late and it screws us all up because we're understaffed when the park opens or closes and people can't go on the rides because an employee is late or didn't show. People that show up late like you piss me off.

give me head.

 

[Bill Brasky]

Instead of getting pissed I suggest you think about how to prevent this from happening again. I didn't read the whore thread, so I'm sorry if it's already been said.

I have a similar situation as you. I take adderall and I have a horrible time getting to sleep. I found that waking up is easier if I put the alarm the clock across the room because then I have to get out of bed. Also, I give myself 20 extra minutes so I can get a nice shower, breakfast, a cup of coffee and still be 10 mins early for class. After a week of that my sleep schedule gets reset and I can go to bed earlier. Good luck next semester.

 

[randym431]

Reminds me (a little) of the movie Oleanna with Willaim macy. Watch it. Might give you some ideas to try to change his mind.

 

[clarkmo]

It's not gonna get easier for you. Best learn about responsibilty now when it doesn't cost you your employment, loss of income and inability to pay for your meds.

 

[mattpegher]

Originally posted by: Doboji

Originally posted by: mattpegher
Being an Emergency physician, I see you do not know of what you speak. Only we ER physicians and hospitalist work in such a manner. The other docs may take call but there 24 hr coverage is from home. And we hate it when our relief arrives late. How would you like it after a 12 or 24 hour shift to be relieved late, especially when it usually takes 15 minutes to sign out all the patients. Making people wait usually leads to a lawsuit in our business.

My fiancee is a doctor... a resident in pediatrics... She has q4 call quite often... 30+ hour shifts... and I promise you, neither her, nor any of her fellow residents even notice +- 3 minutes...

You might not believe it now but residency is only a minute period of her professional life. But you are right that during residency most of us had to do call, often 36 hour shift and frequently q4days. Maybe 2 minutes doesn't matter but a pattern of lateness does begin to irritate your coworkers.

 

[cKGunslinger]

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: Xanis

Originally posted by: eits
sleep deprivation isn't exactly an easy thing to tackle... you can't just say "well, just wake up and quit being a baby about it... blahdy blah blah"... it's much more complex.

I fail to see how losing 3 minutes of sleep is considered "deprivation". The fact of the matter is, you were late. No ifs, ands or buts about it, you were late. Doesn't matter if it was 1 time or 9 times, you were still LATE. Don't give us this BS about your meds or whatever the fvck is making you late, it comes down to you not taking responsibility. You take the meds, you know their effects, so therefore you should know how to operate your life while on them.

Also, I've heard a lot of BS from people who say being 3 minutes late isn't that big of a deal. Oh really, you think so? I work with people who call out all the time saying that they will be late and it screws us all up because we're understaffed when the park opens or closes and people can't go on the rides because an employee is late or didn't show. People that show up late like you piss me off.

give me head.

This is what you've resorted to?

You fail.

 

[CVSiN]

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: MichaelD
I'm sorry that your meds have that effect on you.

That said:

If I know that the train I take to work is 15 minutes late EVERY morning, no matter what, I leave at least 15 minutes early to make up for it.

Your meds making you sleepy and making it difficult for you to get up in the morning is NOT an excuse for being late. Period.

Judging by your avatar, I'd say you are a med student; you should know better, slacker.

my meds keep me up... it's a stimulant and i metabolize medication slowly. it's either i take the medicine and maintain a level of attentiveness and focus during class and studying or not take the medicine, go to class on time, but not be able to understand anything that goes on and slack off.

Um and WTF happens when you get to the real world if you cant even manage your time in college?

seriously man.. you are the problem NOT the class..
he is training you for the real world with this behavior..
if you cant handle it there is no way your coworkers and boss are gonna put up with the same Chronic lateness when you (IF you) make it out of college.

Im on meds as well and to a degree I know what the deal is... but I still get the hell up on time every day..

 

[jdini76]

you say you metaboblize medication slowly, and you get to the class late because you have overeslet. If that is so, then if you take your medicine right after you get up, then the medication will not have taken affect by the time you reach class anyway. if you are able to understand the professor in this cass, then why are you on the medication in the first place?

 

[CycloWizard]

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: Homerboy
you can be failed for non-attendance?

in order to get a doctorate, you need to have a certain number of classroom hours.

The guy is going to fail you, under these circumstances, in a grad class? What school do you go to, where grad classes are at 7:20 a.m. and profs are such douchebags?

 

[SP33Demon]

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: SP33Demon
First off, 4 words: F**K Late Attendance Policies. They aren't a test of learning, they are trying to parent the student. I can understand a policy that penalizes you for not showing up at all, but being late is L-A-M-E.

With that being said, and assuming you did well in the class, tell the professor the truth and that you are willing to ameliorate the situation in any way possible (extra credit, crack favor, six pack of booze, 2 lap dances at the strip joint, whatever). However, if you did badly in the class, you're fighting an uphill battle.

Hell, I remember having an 88 in a class (A average over all 4 exams and B+ avg on 3 papers) and a prof dropped me to a C (78) because I didn't attend a stupid play. A PLAY!! Plus I skipped a bunch of classes because I could ace his easy ass tests by just reading the book and showing up for test day. In any case, I appealed it to the department and they took the side of the prof (surprise surprise). Sometimes you have to just suck it up and accept responsibility for your actions, even if the policy is freaking bogus. My .02

So, you disrespected the prof, and expected him to pass you with a +80?

4 words

Grow the **** up.

Keep trying to parent kids with your late attendance penalty drivel, and we'll keep laughing at you. Because in the end, it doesn't matter, as long you get a good job in something you're happy in after college (I don't know about you, but I'm livin' it up). One elective class isn't going to make or break your career, wake tfu.

 

[DaiShan]

I havne't read the whole thread, so don't flame me if it's already been said, but why on Earth did you talk to the Dean of admissions? That makes no sense at all, the only the he does is say who gets into the school, since you are already in, he is useless to you. You want to speak to the department head, and if there is no satisfactory resolution, then you want to speak with the dean of your college (liberal arts and sciences, business, education, etc) They'll get it all squared away for you. Assuming of course that you are telling the truth. They may also take into account your performance in the course, for example if you got all A's in the course, then it's fairly likely that you were indeed there for class, but if you're skating by with a C or worse, you're probably screwed either way.