G35C

[Vic]

Originally posted by: SampSon
Because the majority of people just drive the car for transportation. They could care less how it performs in every single aspect. People who care about how the car performs, handles, brakes and costs are the vast minority.

Not as much a minority as you might think. "Race on Sunday, sell on Monday." - Enzo Ferrari (and he sold a few cars I heard). And that still holds true today, or why else do manufacturers invest so heavily in racing?

On another point, you're an RE appraiser driving out to inspect homes everyday. If anyone needed NAV and used it everyday, it would be someone like you right? But do you have NAV? Or miss not having it?

I used to drive more than 50k miles a year strictly for business, driving out to customer's homes and businesses in a 2 state area that encompassed over 100k square miles. I might have liked NAV then (I went through a lot of AAA maps), but I can certainly recognize that I don't need it now for my simple daily commute, evenings around town, and weekend road trips.

 

[RichieZ]

Originally posted by: warcrow
I just purchased a G35. when you say the interior felt "cheap", I have to wonder if you were test driving a clother or leather package. I have the leather and I think its extremely nice. But, everyone has an opinion, I dont know why some people are taking yours so personal, hehe.

Anyways, as for the Navi not ebing touch screen, from what I understand is, they went away from it because the previous models/cars were getting dirty and people were mucking them up. So, this would help with the logevity of the LCD. I can only see people eating some mcdonalds and pushing their greasey fingers on the screen. heh.

yes i drove one with leather, haha i've never seen one w/ cloth, you probably have to special order that one. Its not the seats that where cheap, they are quite nice acutally, i meant the dash and the controls.

I want what I want, and if certain ppl think its a waste of money so be it, its my money and it'll be my car. The G35C is a great car, and it will most likely come down to that or a TL.

I don't see why ppl are all mad that i'm knitt-picking on a few things, 34K is quite a chunk of change. If they made a few changes it would make the car even better.

 

[CtK]

Originally posted by: RichieZ

Originally posted by: warcrow
I just purchased a G35. when you say the interior felt "cheap", I have to wonder if you were test driving a clother or leather package. I have the leather and I think its extremely nice. But, everyone has an opinion, I dont know why some people are taking yours so personal, hehe.

Anyways, as for the Navi not ebing touch screen, from what I understand is, they went away from it because the previous models/cars were getting dirty and people were mucking them up. So, this would help with the logevity of the LCD. I can only see people eating some mcdonalds and pushing their greasey fingers on the screen. heh.

yes i drove one with leather, haha i've never seen one w/ cloth, you probably have to special order that one. Its not the seats that where cheap, they are quite nice acutally, i meant the dash and the controls.

I want what I want, and if certain ppl think its a waste of money so be it, its my money and it'll be my car. The G35C is a great car, and it will most likely come down to that or a TL.

I don't see why ppl are all mad that i'm knitt-picking on a few things, 34K is quite a chunk of change. If they made a few changes it would make the car even better.

thought u only wanted a coupe??

i think the 2K5 will be about $1000-1500 more over the 2K4 model

 

[Farbio]

eh, power seats and the like are wastes. save the weight on the power mechanisms and such. and i have to agree, if you're obsessing over the seats and having to toggle climate control, you're missing the point of the car, which is a luxurious 350 w/ 2 extra useable seats!

 

[Vic]

Hey, buy what you want and can afford. More power to ya. I was just calling BS on your NAV comment for the most part.

 

[Apex]

Originally posted by: RichieZ

Originally posted by: Apex
WHAT?!? No power lumbar support? Man, what a total waste of money.

alrite fine its not a big deal, but not having power recline is ridiculous, i'm glad to see them fixing it

Just joking with you.

 

[CraigRT]

Originally posted by: RichieZ

Originally posted by: SuperTool
This car isn't for you. You can't see the forrest for the trees. Stick with your Lexus.

thank you for your concern, but if i just wanted to drive fast i'd get a wrx. My complaint is that for a rather expensive car the interior leaves something to be desired compared to what i would say are its peers (TL [ok not really this one], BMW 3, A4, even the IS300 which doens't excalty have a great interior).

I seriously think the G35C is faster than a WRX.. now if you wanted to be FASTER than a G35C, maybe an STi.

 

[m2kewl]

when i test drove it, g35c interior does feel cheap. nissan nickel and dimed the parts, tab around the cup area and silver center area. nav doesn't compare to the TL nav. otherwise, it's a good car.

imo, if you want it, wait for the 2k5, get the manual

 

[Siddhartha]

Originally posted by: RichieZ
test drove a twilight blue G35C w/ preformance package and nav system. Not overly impressed, all the money must have went to the engine.

Plasticly interior with cheap cup holders, and no power recline for even the drivers seat? And no power lumbar support?

Strange placement of power seat controls, wierd climate control, have to toggle trough the display, doesn't have dedicated buttons. Why is a 2K Nav system not touch screen?

Lots of power tho, great accel.

Like the car overall but think it doesn't have an interior worthy of a 30K+ car. I can get the car for invoice using VPP so like 31.8 w/o nav 33.6 w/ nav.

I'll problaby wait for 2k5, they addressed the power recline and added 18HP, salesperson said it would be out in late oct? Ppl say they finally updated the interior?

WHat do I drive around now? ES330, wonderful interior but anemic engine, so like the antithesis of the G35. Want to keep it under 40K w/ TTL, any other suggestions? Will look at TL and possibly new 2.0T or V6 A4, only would want a 330Ci so BMW is out of the picture

What was the window price of the GS you test drove?

What is your budget?

What other cars are you considering?

 

[johnjbruin]

I drive a g35 everyday. I bought the car for the performance - not for mb/acura/lexus type of interiors.
Its more of a drivers car - for people who drive for the fun of driving also - rather than just using it as a mode of transportation from point A to B.

As for the interior - I think it is plenty good. People complain about interiors all the time - too many buttons - too few buttons - button on the wrong side - bmw iDrive too complicated etc. -my personal opinion is that you are a total dumb@ss if you cant operate the interior of a freaking car - its not like its rocket science.

 

[johnjbruin]

Originally posted by: CraigRT

Originally posted by: RichieZ

Originally posted by: SuperTool
This car isn't for you. You can't see the forrest for the trees. Stick with your Lexus.

thank you for your concern, but if i just wanted to drive fast i'd get a wrx. My complaint is that for a rather expensive car the interior leaves something to be desired compared to what i would say are its peers (TL [ok not really this one], BMW 3, A4, even the IS300 which doens't excalty have a great interior).

I seriously think the G35C is faster than a WRX.. now if you wanted to be FASTER than a G35C, maybe an STi.

Sorry to inform you - but your thinking is wrong. I have a g35 and know that the stock wrx is faster than the stock g35. Trust me on this one - I know from personal experience

 

[RichieZ]

Originally posted by: johnjbruin

Originally posted by: CraigRT

Originally posted by: RichieZ

Originally posted by: SuperTool
This car isn't for you. You can't see the forrest for the trees. Stick with your Lexus.

thank you for your concern, but if i just wanted to drive fast i'd get a wrx. My complaint is that for a rather expensive car the interior leaves something to be desired compared to what i would say are its peers (TL [ok not really this one], BMW 3, A4, even the IS300 which doens't excalty have a great interior).

I seriously think the G35C is faster than a WRX.. now if you wanted to be FASTER than a G35C, maybe an STi.

Sorry to inform you - but your thinking is wrong. I have a g35 and know that the stock wrx is faster than the stock g35. Trust me on this one - I know from personal experience

i'm sure it really depends how much you want to abuse your car, and doesn't the current coupe have 20 more hp than the sedan? supposed to be the same in 2k5 models

 

[SportSC4]

I was looking at coupes earlier this year and I test drove a G35c.
It just gets a meh out of me. The brakes felt great, it handled good, and the engine felt great past a certain RPM (I can't recall exactly now). But the g35c is sold under the Infinite nameplate. The 350Z is the pure perforamance model and the G35c is supposed to be the model with a nice interior. I wasn't impressed.

as for the nav, the reason behind it is because of fingerprints. Nissan thought that people would get sick of having fingerprints all over the nav screen but for me, the convenience of touchscreen outweighs any fingerprints.

I'm opting to wait until next year to purchase a 2000 SC400 (last model year) or a 98-00 GS400.

 

[johnjbruin]

Originally posted by: RichieZ

Originally posted by: johnjbruin

Originally posted by: CraigRT

Originally posted by: RichieZ

Originally posted by: SuperTool
This car isn't for you. You can't see the forrest for the trees. Stick with your Lexus.

thank you for your concern, but if i just wanted to drive fast i'd get a wrx. My complaint is that for a rather expensive car the interior leaves something to be desired compared to what i would say are its peers (TL [ok not really this one], BMW 3, A4, even the IS300 which doens't excalty have a great interior).

I seriously think the G35C is faster than a WRX.. now if you wanted to be FASTER than a G35C, maybe an STi.

Sorry to inform you - but your thinking is wrong. I have a g35 and know that the stock wrx is faster than the stock g35. Trust me on this one - I know from personal experience

i'm sure it really depends how much you want to abuse your car, and doesn't the current coupe have 20 more hp than the sedan? supposed to be the same in 2k5 models

When you are comparing cars - abuse is not a factor. You will not go fast by babying the gas pedal.

Even though the current coupe has 20 more hp, the sedan is lighter and the 6mt sedan is actually faster than the 6mt coupe.

WRX is faster in launching - because of awd. Its faster in 0-60 and in the 1/4mile also.

 

[hans007]

Originally posted by: CtK

Originally posted by: RichieZ

Originally posted by: CtK
all my friends love the sound of my G35c
the interior is cheapy but i like the seats and driving position is perfect for me
how often do you change the recline position anyway??

2K5 manual G35c wont be out till Dec-Jan
2K5 auto G35c will be here next month

are you only looking for coupes??

i don't need to adjust the seat recline that often, but common even a cheapie car has a full power drivers seat.

most likely coupe only, not diggin the look of the sedan, but may consider the G35X depending on which job offer i decide to take, either gonna be in cali or chicago

there are only a few luxo sporty coupes available under 40K
Infiniti G35c
BMW 3-series
Mazda RX-8
Toyota Solara
c-class (over-priced)
crossfire (LOL NEVER EVER!!)
pontiac gto (fugly interior)

the 3 series you have to pay for power seats
and it didnt have the nicest interior in the world either i had one
out of all of those i think the TL looks the best
but that was FWD and a sedan

the rx8 and gto are really not luxury coupes. a touring model 350z is probably closer to luxury, but i still wouldnt consider it one.

as for the g35, the new one with the better interior is coming out in a month. its not quite the TLs interior, but its close, and well the platform blows away the TL driving wise.

 

[Nebor]

A 330ci has a fantastic interior and performs better than a g35 coupe. But it costs about $5k more. The new 325i w/ the 2.3l should be pretty sporty though, offering more horsepower over the old 2.5l and the legendary BMW driving experience. I've always felt that BMW offered a great 'drivers car' while still having nice creature comforts and a fantastic interior. Audi was similar, but was a little bit softer, without the hard edge of the BMW.

Honestly though, the decision is up to you. If you're going to think "this is cheap" everytime you're in the car, then don't buy it! But realize that the car wasn't built for people to henpeck the interior; you're missing the most important part of the interior: the gas pedal. My Lightning cost as much as a G35 Coupe, and sure, the interior is horrendous. Big sheets of crappy plastic poorly shaped for the dash. The worst place for cupholders ever placed on a car. Strange rattles in the dash. A ride that will shake your teeth out. But as the boost gauge rises, your concerns about the interior fade away. Now I'll go ahead and say it, I wouldn't drive my Lighting every day. It's uncomfortable and rickety. I'd say if you're only going to have one car, you should pick a good compromise between performance and comfort, and the BMW 330ci is a damn good compromise. But so is the G35 Coupe.

 

[hans007]

the 330ci , is more like 8000 dollars more than a g35 coupe.

it also doesnt outperform it, in 0-60, slalom, 1/4 mile, braking distance. the g35 is basically better in every one of those respects. a g35 coupe on curves can hang with an m3, just not in the straights.

a 325i, comparably equipped to a a g35 costs only about $1000 less granted its base msrp is like $3000 less. but since g35s come with leather, xenons, side and heat air bags, power everything etc, heated mirrors and seats, 6 disc cd changers (with mp3 playeback for2005 i might add), and a base 330 or 325 comes with normal lights, no side airbags, smaller wheels, single disc cd, vinyl seats and non power seats, non heated mirrors and basically are strippers. to upgrade to full leather seats alone on a bmw costs $1000 or more. not to mention the $400 for metallic paint. so you're cost basis is wrong, and so is the performance basis.

granted the 330ci is a great car. im just saying its not nearly as cheap , or better performing than you think

 

[CtK]

Even though the current coupe has 20 more hp, the sedan is lighter and the 6mt sedan is actually faster than the 6mt coupe.

WRX is faster in launching - because of awd. Its faster in 0-60 and in the 1/4mile also.

uhhh NO!!
the manual coupe does 0-60 below 6 seconds the manual sedan does it in 6.2 seconds

Manual WRX vs Manual G35c is close tho

 

[Krk3561]

I have a G35 sedan and it has power recline. I dont have any problems with the climate control either. I love my G35, its a great car.

 

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: SampSon
Because the majority of people just drive the car for transportation. They could care less how it performs in every single aspect. People who care about how the car performs, handles, brakes and costs are the vast minority.

Not as much a minority as you might think. "Race on Sunday, sell on Monday." - Enzo Ferrari (and he sold a few cars I heard). And that still holds true today, or why else do manufacturers invest so heavily in racing?

On another point, you're an RE appraiser driving out to inspect homes everyday. If anyone needed NAV and used it everyday, it would be someone like you right? But do you have NAV? Or miss not having it?

I used to drive more than 50k miles a year strictly for business, driving out to customer's homes and businesses in a 2 state area that encompassed over 100k square miles. I might have liked NAV then (I went through a lot of AAA maps), but I can certainly recognize that I don't need it now for my simple daily commute, evenings around town, and weekend road trips.

Sales numbers indicate that it is a vast minority, though I am not disagreeing with you that performance vehicles are becoming widely popular now. Racing doesn't have to do with consumer sales.
If people were really truly interested in performance on all levels, all these crap cars wouldn't be selling as well as they do.

I have thought about getting GPS in a car. Or even one of thoes garmen(spelling) handheld/dashboard systems. Many times it would come in very handy having the GPS + software loaded maps guiding me along. Though at this point I am quicker than any computer when it comes to reading a map, so NAV and GPS is a foregone point for me personally.
You have to take into consideration that many people are not about minimalism. They are about dealing with whey they are given. Most people want excess, and excess is what they will buy.

 

[hans007]

Originally posted by: CtK

Even though the current coupe has 20 more hp, the sedan is lighter and the 6mt sedan is actually faster than the 6mt coupe.

WRX is faster in launching - because of awd. Its faster in 0-60 and in the 1/4mile also.

uhhh NO!!
the manual coupe does 0-60 below 6 seconds the manual sedan does it in 6.2 seconds

Manual WRX vs Manual G35c is close tho

2005 should be even faster.


both manual cars will have 298 hp, and the autos will have 280 (likely exactly the same in reality, just marketing bs).

but that means the sedan no matter what gets 20 hp at least.

 

[youseelabruin]

On every G35 thread, the biggest knock on the G35 is the interior. I agree, it's not the greatest, but it is far from bad or cheap. It just isn't Audi, MB, or BMW... or even VW these days. Being a dashstroker, I always have loved BMW and Audi interiors, but the closest I got to it was a 2001 Jetta 1.8t. The Jetta had a nice interior, but it wasn't that much better than the G35. Hopefully the 2005 G35 will resolve the interior quality issues.

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Nav is great. I could live without it, but I am glad I have it. In California, there are many places to go (stores and restaurants, Nav has a directory). A lot of streets to take, a lot of traffic and construction to get around... basically a lot of driving off the beaten path. I use mine on a daily basis. Sure, it isn't necessary to use it to find out how to get to the liquor store, but anytime I need to make a detour on a longer trip, it's there to help. I always have a map of my location and ETA to my destination. This is especially nice on road trips to far off destinations I have never been to. It lets me explore without having to worry about getting lost.

I say it is pretty useful, especially if you are into gadgets. It includes a fun to look at MPG display. It does have its annoyances like a legal screen, no programming while in motion, no touch screen, and slow processing. But it doesn't stop me from using it. In 2005, the processing time is quicker in the 350Z, so I expect it to be the same in the G35.

But in the end, I got the 6MT so I could enjoy the drive and that is what the G35 does the best.

oh yeah, the power recline. That would be nice, but like someone said before, how often do you adjust that?

 

[Slickone]

Originally posted by: gUEv
350Z & G35 = worst exhaust note evar


am i the only one who feels that way?

I don't.
MT doesn't:
Likewise, Nissan planners worked the exhaust to impart some character-not something most Japanese cars are known for. What the 350Z has is certainly not the rumble of a Corvette or Mustang Cobra, nor the bark of a Honda S2000 or Toyota MR2 Spider, but more of a BMW-like throaty baritone in the 1000-3500-rpm window. It seems to fit.

These people dont:
With the Z Roadster's top down, the exhaust tone is music to the driver's ears, rising and falling melodiously and crisply as the gears are worked through the turns on a twisty road.

Or them:
The Nissan whitecoats also decided to throw in lumpier camshafts and an exhaust system that allows for better engine breathing (and a lovely note, I might add).


BTW, the 350Z has a freeier flowing exhaust than the G35.[L=them]

 

[spidey07]

heh, if you like luxurious and tons of features then check out the TL with nav (the nav adds a WHOLE lot more than just navigation)

bluetooth phone, voice recognition, comfy seats, decent power, good feel, spacious, driver recognition settings.

oh and built in DVD audio and XM radio in a fully descrete 5.1 stereo.

all for 32K.

 

[IHYLN]

Originally posted by: SuperTool
How often do you adjust your lumbard support or change the tilt of your seat? Once a year? So why waste money on that? Passenger climate hard to adjust? Good, I wouldn't want my passengers adjusting anything in my car anyways. They should be happy they are getting a ride. Navigation not touch screen? Big deal. Learn to use the buttons. How often do you need navigation anyways? I would forgo that option entirely.

here's someone who likes to throw lots of money away for a cheap nissan what would nissan do without these folks?