G80 Leaked pictures

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LittleNemoNES

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Holy Shiz! That thing is huge! 2x Power Plugs :shocked:
I will definitely need a huge PSU -- not even 600w is enough
 

RichUK

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Originally posted by: gersson
Holy Shiz! That thing is huge! 2x Power Plugs :shocked:
I will definitely need a huge PSU -- not even 600w is enough

Then .... there's SLI :shocked:
 

Creig

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Originally posted by: CP5670
The last G807 picture shows an unusual cable attached to the back of the card. I'm wondering if that is for an external power transformer.

I believe that's a nut driver, not a cable.
 

Ackmed

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I dont know if this is real or not. But I dont like the side mounted power plugs. I dont care that there are two, or that its rumored to consume a lot more power. Having the plugs on the side like that, is worse than from the back to me.

Interesting cooler. Looks like Innovatek connectors for water cooling. But of course, this could all be fake, so... I wont spend too much time thinking about it.
 

lopri

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Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
We may have two cores in one package here gents.

Look closely.

Mirror image placement of resistors right under where GPU sits. So, possibly two cores in one package?

I'm going to look for a rear shot of a 7900GTX and see if the mirrored resistors are there.

Here, found one. And it doesn't look like anything is mirrored. All spec, of course, but just something to take note of.

G71photo
Yeah I think I see traces for 2 dice, too. Now that is a surprise.
 

ElFenix

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Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
We may have two cores in one package here gents.

Look closely.

Mirror image placement of resistors right under where GPU sits. So, possibly two cores in one package?

I'm going to look for a rear shot of a 7900GTX and see if the mirrored resistors are there.

Here, found one. And it doesn't look like anything is mirrored. All spec, of course, but just something to take note of.

G71photo

to get 700+ million transistors onto that thing there must be two dice. intel gets 600 million transistors out of a single die, but then montecito costs thousands and a lot of those transistors are cache, which intel is particularly good at cramming in. their mainstream part with 600 million transistors (C2Q) will have two C2D chips in a dual dice package.

ati did the same thing with xenos, apparently.

Originally posted by: lopri
Yeah I think I see traces for 2 dice, too. Now that is a surprise.
after the 7950 GX2 i don't see why it would be a surprise.
 

Golgatha

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Originally posted by: Ackmed
I dont know if this is real or not. But I dont like the side mounted power plugs. I dont care that there are two, or that its rumored to consume a lot more power. Having the plugs on the side like that, is worse than from the back to me.

Interesting cooler. Looks like Innovatek connectors for water cooling. But of course, this could all be fake, so... I wont spend too much time thinking about it.

Given how long the card is, it is probably a good design decision to move the power connector from the rear of the card. The back of my X1900XT already extends far enough back that I had to relocate a hard drive. Probably wouldn't have had to relocate the drive if the power plug had been on top of the card.
 

Keysplayr

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Originally posted by: josh6079
Originally posted by: maxxxxel
Originally posted by: josh6079
LOL!

The Inquirer....quite sure....

LMAO!

Originally posted by: josh6079
Also, if keys' pictures indicate the truth, those cores look like they have to be 65nm's.


65nm LMAO! pure logic M8 thats its a 90nm or a 80nm, chip needs to be redesigned for 65nm. Do so some research

I wasn't saying I thought they were. I was saying, if there are two cores in the space keys designated, they couldn't be 90 or 80nm's.

I still think it is a single core from the looks of the back of the pcb. Probably 80nm.


In my outline in the photo, I just wanted you to take note of the double set of resistors. My outline was not to indicate the total size of the core as that is impossible to tell from the back. So, if anything, it is two cores in one package both adding up to 700Million+ transistors most likely 90nm, at best 80nm.
 

Keysplayr

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Originally posted by: Ackmed
I dont know if this is real or not. But I dont like the side mounted power plugs. I dont care that there are two, or that its rumored to consume a lot more power. Having the plugs on the side like that, is worse than from the back to me.

Interesting cooler. Looks like Innovatek connectors for water cooling. But of course, this could all be fake, so... I wont spend too much time thinking about it.


Seems like a very long card. Better to have the connectors on the top edge to avoid hitting other peripherals.
 

Ackmed

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I know it makes more sense, Im just anal about my wires. :/ I like to keep a very clean PC.
 

jiffylube1024

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Originally posted by: Ackmed
I dont know if this is real or not. But I dont like the side mounted power plugs. I dont care that there are two, or that its rumored to consume a lot more power. Having the plugs on the side like that, is worse than from the back to me.

Interesting cooler. Looks like Innovatek connectors for water cooling. But of course, this could all be fake, so... I wont spend too much time thinking about it.

The card is so long that having the connectors on top like that makes much more sense -- it just plain wouldn't fit in most cases with the plugs on the end.

With that said, it will fit just fine in the Antec P180 case if you take out the upper HD tray . But cards that long aren't much of my taste either.

I'd love to see benchmarks though!
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Reading the posts at B3d, it looks like their speculation is that the card with regular air cooling is the 8800GT, while the one with the extra water cooling knobs is the 8800GTX...
 

Ackmed

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Read before posting... I already posted it makes more sense for most cases. While my case could handle a card twice that length with no problems, the vast majority of cases are small.
 

Cookie Monster

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Yeah, the hybrid water cooling is optional.

Cooler without water cooling

Cooler with water cooling

For people saying it will have one DX9 core and one DX10 core, this WILL not happen. It would be the single most biggest mistake ever made by a company to do so. Not to mention a waste of transistors and die size.

From what ive gathered its going to be a dedicated PS and unified VS/GS design. Where the memory interface is divided by 256bit and 128bit. (128bit for the VS/GS)

Not to mention we might see clock domains in G80, meaning the PS can be clocked differently, VS/GS could be clocked differently and so on. (Then theres the TMUs/ROPS and etc, but lets wait for the actual G80 review )

The good thing is that the cooler blows hot air out of the case.

Wonder if the second power plug is optional, similiar to a 6800U.


edit - can i just say that there is ALOT of pins near the GPU area.. So many

edit2 - Various users in B3D (Razor1, trumphsiao) report than the G80 samples were already done in Jan 2006.
 

lopri

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I can testify that Ackmed's somewhat a*** about wiring. I've seen his cable job before and it was magnificent. (Lian-Li V2000)
 

Creig

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Originally posted by: Wreckage
Originally posted by: Ackmed
Im just anal about my wires.
Yet, you have no problem with a dongle....:roll:

Wiring is inside the case and can affect airflow/temperature.

Dongle is outside the case and affects... Nothing.
 

Cookie Monster

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Originally posted by: Creig
Originally posted by: Wreckage
Originally posted by: Ackmed
Im just anal about my wires.
Yet, you have no problem with a dongle....:roll:

Wiring is inside the case and can affect airflow/temperature.

Dongle is outside the case and affects... Nothing.

Just spacing of your computer really. It technically extends the length due to the dongle sticking out. Unless space isnt a problem.
 

Creig

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Since you need to have a VGA or DVI cable plugged in anyhow, I don't see that it would make much of a difference.
 

Ackmed

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Originally posted by: Wreckage
Originally posted by: Ackmed
Im just anal about my wires.
Yet, you have no problem with a dongle....:roll:

Its outside the case. Would you like to show the inside of your PC? If the dongle bothers you, then your PC must be clean?

I like a clean and tidy PC. No rats nest of wires, no extra crap thats not need (poorly placed exhast fans) etc. The dongle does nothing to slow air flow, or clutter up the PC. If the dongle bothered me, then having dual displays would, as thats another cable back there too. Or my 5.1 audio cables, instead of just the single for stereo speakers. Or my optical cable thats hooked up as well. See a trend?

Some pics of my PC, or how it was before I took out the master card. Im on a single X1900XT now.
Pic 1
Pic 2
Pic 3
Pic 4

The dongle doesnt bother me.
 

Creig

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VERY clean. Nice job.

You would probably have an aneursym if you saw my main rig. But since it's mostly water-cooled, perfect airflow doesn't mean a whole lot to me.
 

Creig

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Originally posted by: Nightmare225
This means release date is pretty close.

Not necessarily. If this is a totally new architecture, their driver team could be going postal trying to work out all the bugs/performance issues. Even if the hardware is done, it could take awhile yet before the software is ready.
 

Ackmed

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Originally posted by: Creig
VERY clean. Nice job.

You would probably have an aneursym if you saw my main rig. But since it's mostly water-cooled, perfect airflow doesn't mean a whole lot to me.


Its just a peeve of mine. I dislike seeing a high powered PC, with a crappy wire job, that restricts air flow, and looks bad.

Ive had several watercooled (and even a phase change and watercooled PC), all with decent wiring.

Mach II This is probably one of my worst, but I did clean it up after this pic. The Prommy had so many extra wires, and that case was pretty small.. but anyways. Pic of Prommy temp Whats funny is that P4 3gig was at 3.9gig, and phase-changed cooled. And is slower than my current CPU right now, even though it has a 1.5gig advantage. My, how times change. The Prommy with water Obviously not running yet. Never did take pics of that, but you get the general gist.

My latest and probably greatest watercooled PC Still very clean wiring I think. Two seperate complete loops, and nice wiring. A few more ---Outside Lots o' tubing, little wires --- Mobo and USB wires from a hole in the mobo tray to keep it clean. Not coming across the bottom. And yes, thats a 6800GT, I have used many NV cards. Despite what some people think.

Yet another WC PC Not nearly as clean. I dont like it much looking back on it. Thats pretty old though. Outside shot

My first even WC PC Not as clean as todays job. Yes, thats a Kenwood 72-X Too bad it didnt read many burned CD's. Inside shot

Not hard to clean up a SFF Oh my, whats that? Yet another NV card... My, my, I have had a lot of NV cards... Even it that was my daughters PC.

Same PC I have now, but when I had SLI And old ribbon IDE cables...

I just dont understand why the dongle appears to be an issue for some people. But since they havent, and wont be using it, it doesnt really matter. I actually use the hardware I discuss.

 
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