G80 Stuff

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Ackmed
For the record, I do not think that this will be another 5800U debacle. Perhaps Im just used to newer cards doubling up on performance, and not as "amazed" as some people. It happens pretty often, especially with new generations. And as I said, there have been rumored specs for some time, so its not as "amazing" as it was when rumors/info first leaked.

and NEITHER do i

however, i am cautioning against swallowing all the pre release marketing hype

g80 "success" -- or failure - will ultimately be judged against r600

 

[MBrown]

800W :Q

 

[BlingBlingArsch]

Originally posted by: MBrown
800W :Q

sick, insane, stupid. ill buy the best card under 70W and after that ill hug a tree -,-

 

[jiffylube1024]

128 Unified Shaders!?!?!? Whoah!

Nvidia has really put their tech where their mouth is! This looks to be the biggest improvement since the 9700 Pro launched. More shaders, more memory bandwith, more power consumption, more everything!

I'm eagerly awaiting benchmarks for this card!

 

[Zenoth]

The 9700 launch was such marvelous, I'll always remember my reaction when I saw the first benchmarks. Back then I barely had decent knowledge about GPU technology and how it worked, but it didn't take Einstein to understand that something big was happening.

If G80 is the new 9700 of our time, then all I can say to nVidia is good job guys.

I've always been with ATi since I bought my 9800 Pro in 2002 I believe (or 2001, can't remember exactly, I'd have to look at the bill again). And I intend to stay loyal in exchange of their great consumer support (well for me anyway). However if nVidia manages to do better than R600, I'll be interested by a change, I'm not afraid to say. The only "problem" I'd have though, is that if the G80's power consumption information is true, I will also have to hurt my wallet for yet another Power Supply (when I bought my 550 HE, it was because I first had a CrossFire set-up, and then changed motherboard and sold my previous GPUs for money to buy more important things). I doubt that my 550 HE will be able to give enough love to the G80, at least not to the GTX version, and I wouldn't want to get the lower-end part this time around.

If R600, on the other hand, presents very similar, or exact same performance, overall, but with less power consumption on the high-end part, then I will be in such a dilemma, it's gonna physically hurt by brain.

 

[schneiderguy]

Originally posted by: Ackmed

Originally posted by: schneiderguy

ackmed biased to the green team? shens

Way to troll, and contribute zero to the thread.

i think the 8800gtx will be fast and power hungry

happy now?

edit: not that i care, im not buying one.

 

[HigherGround]

Originally posted by: Zenoth
The 9700 launch was such marvelous, I'll always remember my reaction when I saw the first benchmarks. Back then I barely had decent knowledge about GPU technology and how it worked, but it didn't take Enstein to understand that something big was happening.

If G80 is the new 9700 of our time, then all I can say to nVidia is good job guys.

I've always been with ATi since I bought my 9800 Pro in 2002 I believe (or 2001, can't remember exactly, I'd have to look at the bill again). And I intend to stay loyal in exchange of their great consumer support (well for me anyway). However if nVidia manages to do better than R600, I'll be interested by a change, I'm not afraid to say. The only "problem" I'd have though, is that if the G80's power consumption information is true, I will also have to hurt my wallet for yet another Power Supply (when I bought my 550 HE, it was because I first had a CrossFire set-up, and then changed motherboard and sold my previous GPUs for money to buy more important things). I doubt that my 550 HE will be able to give enough love to the G80, at least not to the GTX version, and I wouldn't want to get the lower-end part this time around.

If R600, on the other hand, presents very similar, or exact same performance, overall, but with less power consumption on the high-end part, then I will be in such a dilemma, it's gonna physically hurt by brain.

9800 Pro came out in 2003

 

[Zenoth]

Ah ! Knew I had the wrong date, well yeah, 2003.

Good, bill says January 12th 2004. Oh well, I had some serious memory hole right there.

Look at the price again ... wow, guess how much ? $493.46 CAN, including taxes. That's $438.23 US, but back then the Canadian dollar had a worse value. Damn ... that was expensive.

 

[Cookie Monster]

R600 is rumoured to be 33cm in length
Take up 3 PCI-e slots
and use 300W of power.

Some other rumours are
its on 65nm
500~ million transistors
700mhz core clock
512bit GDDR4
Includes memory controller
64 pipelines/unfied shaders/etc

All this is just pure rumours on R600. So both G80/R600 is rumoured to be power hungry. But since the R600 uses GDDR4/65nm then i assume (unless things change) R600 might have the power advantage.

edit - whats the rumoured launch date for R600?

 

[Zenoth]

Launch, as in paper launch ? :frown:

If you mean availability in stores ... I presume somewhere in Q1 2007.

 

[Cookie Monster]

I guess NV is going to have quite big head start. Similiar to 7800GTX and the X850XT PE.

 

[Pabster]

Originally posted by: Cookie Monster
R600 is rumoured to be 33cm in length

LOL, 13 inches long? I doubt it.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Cookie Monster
I guess NV is going to have quite big head start. Similiar to 7800GTX and the X850XT PE.

depends what you mean by 'headstart'

they are simply first with a next gen part

and this scenario has been repeated endlessly since ati competed with nvidia . . . someone has to be second.

and the results are not dependant on who is first to market although nvidia does get the high-end holiday market by itself. . . .
[the 8500 was 'first and got creamed by the ti series; nv30 was first and you know what r300 did to it . . . everything else kinda equals out. . . . ]

 

[Matt2]

Originally posted by: Cookie Monster
512bit GDDR4

I hope you meant 512MB of GDDR4.

There is no way in hell R600 is going to have a 512bit memory bus.

 

[imported_Crusader]

8800GTX will be mine.

Time to own some ATI, as their fans wait forever for a chip that will at best equal this beast. Enjoy your X800s boys. I'd gladly take even a repeat of the Geforce6 story all over again. This is appearing to be measuring up to a walloping on ATIs hide though. Be interesting when AMD takes full control of ATI if they continue to allow ATI to lose money on the high end just to remain in the market.
Thank you Nvidia. I salute thee. GIVE THE PEOPLE WHAT THEY WANT!

Viva la Geforce 8!

 

[SickBeast]

I suppose it's nice to see the Nvidia people enjoying their twilight.

What games are there that require this type of horsepower, just out of curiousity?

Oh, and when is that new Unreal Tournament game coming out?

 

[nitromullet]

Originally posted by: Crusader
8800GTX will be mine.

Time to own some ATI, as their fans wait forever for a chip that will at best equal this beast. Enjoy your X800s boys. I'd gladly take even a repeat of the Geforce6 story all over again. This is appearing to be measuring up to a walloping on ATIs hide though. Be interesting when AMD takes full control of ATI if they continue to allow ATI to lose money on the high end just to remain in the market.
Thank you Nvidia. I salute thee. GIVE THE PEOPLE WHAT THEY WANT!

Viva la Geforce 8!

Don't forget to take your hat off and place your hand over your heart...

 

[Zenoth]

It nevers ends does it.

"8800 GTX will be mine, time to own some ATi"

Then 8850 GTX will arrive, or some sort of so called refresh, then what, you'll want it to ? Then R620/R680 will arrive, a refresh over R600, what will you want then ? Then GeForce 9, then R700/800/900 and whatnot. It's always temporary. People like you seem to think that you're "owning" forever when you buy something, when the company you praise so much will stab you in the back with a reresh soon after and they'll own their own consumers.

Not to mention support for SM 4.0. How many games ? Oh yes, I forgot, that's an investment. By the time enough games will fully use SM 4.0, then SM 5.0 will be supported in newer generations. You realize that nVidia makes money with people like you ? Just like ATi, they ain't different, nVidia ain't better nor worse. As soon as information is out, like "OMG OMG OMG it's mine" ... yeah. Well it's your money, fortunately it isn't mine, so go ahead and do it.

All I ask for is some OBJECTIVITY. Wait, and see. And then make your choices based on your NEEDS, not on your ego.

 

[Corporate Thug]

interesting thread on power here:

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1106468

 

[Kromis]

Achtung, achtung! Alle Hagel NVIDIA, für es ist unser Führer! Sieg heil!

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: Crusader
8800GTX will be mine.

Time to own some ATI, as their fans wait forever for a chip that will at best equal this beast. Enjoy your X800s boys. I'd gladly take even a repeat of the Geforce6 story all over again. This is appearing to be measuring up to a walloping on ATIs hide though. Be interesting when AMD takes full control of ATI if they continue to allow ATI to lose money on the high end just to remain in the market.
Thank you Nvidia. I salute thee. GIVE THE PEOPLE WHAT THEY WANT!

Viva la Geforce 8!

You got some issues.

I doubt you want that... the 8xx cards were faster than GeForce6.. They certainly looked better (that's when NV introduced us to shimmering)

It was'nt till GF7 NV finally took and held lead until x19xx came.

 

[Kromis]

Originally posted by: Zebo

Originally posted by: Crusader
8800GTX will be mine.

Time to own some ATI, as their fans wait forever for a chip that will at best equal this beast. Enjoy your X800s boys. I'd gladly take even a repeat of the Geforce6 story all over again. This is appearing to be measuring up to a walloping on ATIs hide though. Be interesting when AMD takes full control of ATI if they continue to allow ATI to lose money on the high end just to remain in the market.
Thank you Nvidia. I salute thee. GIVE THE PEOPLE WHAT THEY WANT!

Viva la Geforce 8!

You got some issues.

I doubt you want that... the 8xx cards were faster than GeForce6.. They certainly looked better (that's when NV introduced us to shimmering)

It was'nt till GF7 NV finally took and held lead until x19xx came.

:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

May God have mercy on us all...

What about the X1800XT? Didn't it sort of "take the lead" too? Although it was ridiculously expensive, it was still pretty good, don't you think?

 

[redbox]

I sure hope Nvidia can improve on their IQ problems. This new G80 is starting to look really interesting.

 

[Cookie Monster]

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: Cookie Monster
I guess NV is going to have quite big head start. Similiar to 7800GTX and the X850XT PE.

depends what you mean by 'headstart'

they are simply first with a next gen part

and this scenario has been repeated endlessly since ati competed with nvidia . . . someone has to be second.

and the results are not dependant on who is first to market although nvidia does get the high-end holiday market by itself. . . .
[the 8500 was 'first and got creamed by the ti series; nv30 was first and you know what r300 did to it . . . everything else kinda equals out. . . . ]

Im talking about 7800GTX and X850XTPE days. The 7800GTX/GT dominated the high end market for several months without competition (ATi lacked feature/IQ/speed/dual GPu solution at that time as the X850XT PE was getting severly old). Do you think X1950XTX can compete with a G80? G80 is new, and if prove to be faster than a 7900GTX SLi/7950GX2 (which will most probably happen) then NV can successfully dominate the highend market with their 8800GTS/GTX just like the 7800GTX/GT days. Trust me, the marketing PR from NV will unleash a whole new chapter never seen before

Originally posted by: SickBeast
I suppose it's nice to see the Nvidia people enjoying their twilight.

What games are there that require this type of horsepower, just out of curiousity?

Oh, and when is that new Unreal Tournament game coming out?

Oblivion, Company of Heros, (maybe QW ET for full blown experience), other games that current GPUs still cant sustain 60 fps. Some upcoming titles like UT 2007, crysis, oblivion V, and duke nukem forever

For the extra horse power, this can be added to extra level of AA, HDR plus AA, or even higher res/AF.




.

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: Cookie Monster
I guess NV is going to have quite big head start. Similiar to 7800GTX and the X850XT PE.

depends what you mean by 'headstart'

they are simply first with a next gen part

and this scenario has been repeated endlessly since ati competed with nvidia . . . someone has to be second.

and the results are not dependant on who is first to market although nvidia does get the high-end holiday market by itself. . . .
[the 8500 was 'first and got creamed by the ti series; nv30 was first and you know what r300 did to it . . . everything else kinda equals out. . . . ]

Is it possible that ATI (DAMIT) wants Nvidia to release first? Just to get an idea of how fast they are. Then work on getting high enough clocks to compete/surpass? The last time I saw ATI release something first was the 9700. Or was that very very late? I can't remember. LOL.