G80 Stuff

[josh6079]

***slaps own hand***

Sorry.

Anyways, I thought that G80 was going to be on a 90 nm process instead of 80?

 

[Cookie Monster]

Originally posted by: josh6079
***slaps own hand***

Sorry.

Anyways, I thought that G80 was going to be on a 90 nm process instead of 80?

Im thinking if samples were made earlier this year, and 7650/7700 series have succesfully made the 80nm transistion, the G80 quite possibly could be on 80nm.

nVIDIA always tested new processes, with low end cards after the nv30 and 130nm troubles.

 

[schneiderguy]

Originally posted by: josh6079
***slaps own hand***

Sorry.

Anyways, I thought that G80 was going to be on a 90 nm process instead of 80?

afaik its 90nm, r600 is 80nm im pretty sure, which is might be why its launching a few months after G80. maybe a repeat of last gen when nvidia came out with a card that has a larger process earlier then went to the smaller process halfway through the generation?

 

[Pantalaimon]

Originally posted by: Gstanfor

Acutally, Rollo forced his way into AEG, despite AEG and the other members not wanting him there thorugh his pre-existing nvidia contacts.

His forum behaviour was obnoxious prior to this and didn't change while he "worked" for AEG.

And according to you, he is now directly involved with NVIDIA. Care to comment that? Did he "force" his way there too? And if AEG is such a innocent and benevolent marketing/PR firm with nothing but the good of the enthsiasts' in mind, why did it keep its involvement a hush hush until the cat got out of the bag?

See, a person who truly hates sordid marketing practices would find both ATI's and NVIDIA's practice of hiring these guerrilla PR firms contemptible. You, on the other hand, keep posting excuses for AEG.

 

[Cookie Monster]

Originally posted by: Pantalaimon

Originally posted by: Gstanfor

Acutally, Rollo forced his way into AEG, despite AEG and the other members not wanting him there thorugh his pre-existing nvidia contacts.

His forum behaviour was obnoxious prior to this and didn't change while he "worked" for AEG.

And according to you, he is now directly involved with NVIDIA. Care to comment that? Did he "force" his way there too? And if AEG is such a innocent and benevolent marketing/PR firm with nothing but the good of the enthsiasts' in mind, why did it keep its involvement a hush hush until the cat got out of the bag?

See, a person who truly hates sordid marketing practices would find both ATI's and NVIDIA's practice of hiring these guerrilla PR firms contemptible. You, on the other hand, keep posting excuses for AEG.

Shhh. Stick to the topic on G80.

All of you people wanting to flame each other, how about PMing each other, or creating a new thread on AEG.

PLEASE.

 

[Gstanfor]

Originally posted by: Pantalaimon

Originally posted by: Gstanfor

Acutally, Rollo forced his way into AEG, despite AEG and the other members not wanting him there thorugh his pre-existing nvidia contacts.

His forum behaviour was obnoxious prior to this and didn't change while he "worked" for AEG.

And according to you, he is now directly involved with NVIDIA. Care to comment that? Did he "force" his way there too? And if AEG is such a innocent and benevolent marketing/PR firm with nothing but the good of the enthsiasts' in mind, why did it keep its involvement a hush hush until the cat got out of the bag?

See, a person who truly hates sordid marketing practices would find both ATI's and NVIDIA's practice of hiring these guerrilla PR firms contemptible. You, on the other hand, keep posting excuses for AEG.

I did not say he is directly involved with nvidia. He has friends inside nvidia, which is how he is/was able to get early samples of cards etc.

As for AEG being hush hush, why is any group like this (including ATi's own focus group hush hush until found out?

You still have to show where AEG has done anything wrong (outside of Rollo), not to mention ATi's own PR team, more often than not, backed up by the fanatics in the forums are responsible from the filth that spews forth from canada.

 

[Keysplayr]

Stick to the topic.

 

[Pantalaimon]

Originally posted by: Gstanfor

You still have to show where AEG has done anything wrong (outside of Rollo), not to mention ATi's own PR team, more often than not, backed up by the fanatics in the forums are responsible from the filth that spews forth from canada.

You mean outside of Rollo *and* engaging in guerrilla marketing? You think it's perfectly ok, that people hide who they really work for, going around on forums to spin for the company they work for and put down competition? I find the whole guerrilla marketing distasteful. So in my mind both companies play dirty in that respect. NVIDIA just a bit more by having Rollo on its team. But I guess you are for that kind of marketing since you don't find what AEG does, and represent, wrong. Thanks for revealing what you really think.

Been hanging around Crusader much btw, or what's that Canada remark meant to be?

Anyway, I'll let others back on their topic.

 

[Creig]

Why is it that the most rabid fanatics all seem to side with Nvidia? Housecat, Crusader, Rollo, Gstanfor, etc...

 

[Pabster]

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
Stick to the topic.

:thumbsup:

All this AEG discussion is ridiculous.

 

[Ackmed]

Originally posted by: schneiderguy

call crusader biased to the red team and ill post the same thing. i dont see why you need me to call crusader biased.. but to make you happy

crusader is a nvidia fanatic

I dont need or want you to do anything. I was just pointing out your, and others hypocrisy. Calling me bias for saying the remored info is "interesting", and then not saying anything about crusaders post is hypocritical. But since you and others like to troll after me, I guess its expected.

Originally posted by: Gstanfor
Chrisray was never bent ackmed. If anything Chalnoth's posting style has matured somewhat (not lessened any bias he may or may not have) since joining AEG.

Pabster, there are degrees of ruthlesness and that's what I'm constantly pointing out here. nvidia learned the PR lessons very well with nv3x and the company is much better for it. ATi has yet to learn that lesson.

I often wonder if Crusader is a reincarnation of Rollo, watered down, personally, but I've no prooof that he is or isn't. He's probably a little over the top for my tastes (just like Rollo was).

I think you are right. I get Chris and Chalnoth mixed up sometimes, somehow. Its Chalnoth that has "calmed down", or however you want to put it.

 

[Max 20 Characters]

Wish we had an estimated UK pricing

Think £400 (getting a 7950gx2 superclocked EVGA step up) will be enough?

It better be :roll:

 

[coldpower27]

Originally posted by: josh6079
***slaps own hand***

Sorry.

Anyways, I thought that G80 was going to be on a 90 nm process instead of 80?

The current rumor mill is indicating a 90nm process, though we will have to wait for the actual product launch to be certain.

If only we could see a die shot then we coould figure this information out.

It would give well with Nvidia playing it safe though.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

The "wait and see, don't believe the hype" posts here, are very similar to what I read about Conroe before it was officially released. Now, I don't hear a damned thing coming from those guys. It is amazing how fast they STFU once the product proves to be what it was hyped to be. Perhaps that is the history that is repeating itself as oppossed to 8500 or nv30?

BTW, never saw any of them fall over themselves appologizing for all the "doubting Thomas" bullshat they crammed into every discussion :thumbsdown:

EDIT: Clarification, there is a difference between a post that speculates or prognosticates on a topic, and one that defecates on it.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
Stick to the topic.

"G80 Stuff"
:roll:


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Originally posted by: Gstanfor . . .
Pabster, there are degrees of ruthlesness and that's what I'm constantly pointing out here. nvidia learned the PR lessons very well with nv3x and the company is much better for it. ATi has yet to learn that lesson.

I often wonder if Crusader is a reincarnation of Rollo, watered down, personally, but I've no prooof that he is or isn't. He's probably a little over the top for my tastes (just like Rollo was). . . .

You still have to show where AEG has done anything wrong (outside of Rollo), not to mention ATi's own PR team, more often than not, backed up by the fanatics in the forums are responsible from the filth that spews forth from canada.

"filth from Canada"?

that's ok cause YOU said it

i NEVER said Crap from Texas

you have a blind spot bigger than Texass and a devotion to your company that matches religious nuts.
:thumbsdown:

in other words, nvidia can fill these forums with trolls - and it's OK . . . cause it's AEG/nvidia

Rollo and other nvidiots may be "a little over-the-top" but that OK 'cause they support 'your' company

"paranoid delusional" would be a very mild description of your behaviour here.

and . . . slightly related . . . i have learned there is no use arguing with insanity . . .

 

[TanisHalfElven]

Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
The "wait and see, don't believe the hype" posts here, are very similar to what I read about Conroe before it was officially released. Now, I don't hear a damned thing coming from those guys. It is amazing how fast they STFU once the product proves to be what it was hyped to be. Perhaps that is the history that is repeating itself as oppossed to 8500 or nv30?

BTW, never saw any of them fall over themselves appologizing for all the "doubting Thomas" bullshat they crammed into every discussion :thumbsdown:

EDIT: Clarification, there is a difference between a post that speculates or prognosticates on a topic, and one that defecates on it.

just because the anti conroe post were wrong does not mean the appraoch is wrong.
intell has over hyped and undelivered many times. so has nvidia. for that matter has ati. the wait and see appreoach is best.

 

[Acanthus]

I am quite convinced that an R600 adaptation to the PC is not going to compete with the top end 8800 series.

Itll slaughter the 7900 series, and if they compete on price they can edge into low and mid range.

Unless ATi pulls something insane, like keeping the Nmos cache for "free" antialiasing, and also increasing their bus width.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Acanthus
I am quite convinced that an R600 adaptation to the PC is not going to compete with the top end 8800 series.

Itll slaughter the 7900 series. . .

you had a vision?!?
:Q



i guess only the 'true believers' get these


and i am not at all 'convinced'
[Darwin loves me . . . ]

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Originally posted by: tanishalfelven

just because the anti conroe post were wrong does not mean the appraoch is wrong.
intell has over hyped and undelivered many times. so has nvidia. for that matter has ati. the wait and see appreoach is best.

EDIT: Clarification, there is a difference between a post that speculates or prognosticates on a topic, and one that defecates on it.[/quote]

It is all in how the post is constructed IMO. Some seem intent on sabotaging anything produced by a company they aren't enamored with, and the posts reflect that. My calling those posts "wait and see" was damned generous. "Cautiousness" is one thing, muckraking quite another.

 

[thilanliyan]

Originally posted by: josh6079
[*] I'm an angel that clears up the forums from the evil Red flames that sATIn tries to start and leaves a trace of my own Green herbs of healing.

Even those who prefer Nvidia over ATI have noted your irrational bias.

But hey, you'll probably attempt to give me a history lesson, Nvidia corporate analysis, or another "appopin started it" routine.

ROFL.

I wonder if GStanfor will still think I'm a payed ATI employee when I get my 7900GTO. Too good of a deal to pass it was. I was just about to post about him selling cards too. Heck, I'd be biased towards NVidia if I sold their cards too...of course he MIGHT (I doubt it) be selling other cards as well.

No one can blame the AEG fiasco on Rollo. AEG hired Rollo, not the other way around?? If AEG didn't like his posting style(thinking it was over the top), they could have let him go instead of keeping him going...it's not like NVidia stock would have plummeted if Rollo was fired from AEG or something. Anyone trying to blame Rollo for that really must be a rabid fanboy trying to defend his precious company...but hey, that's just my opinion.

About G80...how much performance difference do you think there will be from the 8800GTX to the 8800GTS judging by the released specs? I'll probably step-up to the 8800GTS...hoping I'll get about 80% of the performance of the 8800GTX.

 

[ronnn]

Originally posted by: Acanthus
I am quite convinced that an R600 adaptation to the PC is not going to compete with the top end 8800 series.

Itll slaughter the 7900 series, and if they compete on price they can edge into low and mid range.

Unless ATi pulls something insane, like keeping the Nmos cache for "free" antialiasing, and also increasing their bus width.

I agree this release of info by Nvidia seems to suggest that. But that h2o cooler for the fast guy, seems to suggest a radical need to bump up clock speeds. This is all assuming that an h2o cooler is really needed and that those specifations are accurate and the impact on general performance is as expected. Crap maybe I have to wait for the reviews.

 

[thilanliyan]

Originally posted by: Gstanforfanatics in the forums are responsible from the filth that spews forth from canada.

What does Canada have to do with what goes on in tech forums?? Seriously???

You know, I'm so glad that in the time I spent in Australia, I never met any delusional and ridiculous people like you. Everyone (I met) was extremely nice there...but I suppose there are always exceptions.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Originally posted by: thilan29

Originally posted by: Gstanforfanatics in the forums are responsible from the filth that spews forth from canada.

What does Canada have to do with what goes on in tech forums?? Seriously???

You know, I'm so glad that in the time I spent in Australia, I never met any delusional and ridiculous people like you. Everyone (I met) was extremely nice there...but I suppose there are always exceptions.

Common now. Do you think he is really like this Vis-à-vis? Of course not. People say thing to each other on-line they would never say IRL, for various reasons. It is the Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde syndrome, and the intarwebs is the formula for transformation.

 

[schneiderguy]

Originally posted by: Ackmed

Originally posted by: schneiderguy

call crusader biased to the red team and ill post the same thing. i dont see why you need me to call crusader biased.. but to make you happy

crusader is a nvidia fanatic

I dont need or want you to do anything. I was just pointing out your, and others hypocrisy. Calling me bias for saying the remored info is "interesting", and then not saying anything about crusaders post is hypocritical. But since you and others like to troll after me, I guess its expected.

why do you think im calling you biased for calling the G80 "interesting"? Im calling you biased because you have showed it, AND said yourself that you are biased in other threads

 

[thilanliyan]

Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER

Originally posted by: thilan29

Originally posted by: Gstanforfanatics in the forums are responsible from the filth that spews forth from canada.

What does Canada have to do with what goes on in tech forums?? Seriously???

You know, I'm so glad that in the time I spent in Australia, I never met any delusional and ridiculous people like you. Everyone (I met) was extremely nice there...but I suppose there are always exceptions.

Common now. Do you think he is really like this Vis-à-vis? Of course not. People say thing to each other on-line they would never say IRL, for various reasons. It is the Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde syndrome, and the intarwebs is the formula for transformation.

That's a good question, but I think he'll say he's the same always. I don't really care whether I find out either...and it doesn't matter much anyway.