G80 Stuff

[D22]

I just want to know when we might see the first leaked benches....

 

[thilanliyan]

Originally posted by: D22
I just want to know when we might see the first leaked benches....

Apparently we're all better off seeing those when the card is in stores...to each his own I guess...I'd prefer SOME released benchmarks as long as they keep the ship date within a month of the release of the benchmarks.

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: Gstanfor

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

Originally posted by: Gstanfor
6800U to 7800 GT did, 7800GT to 7900GT did. I still think it's a large ask. The performance may be capable of getting up around 2x 7950GX2, but I doubt it will be able to consistently sustain it. I'd like to be proven wrong though.

6800U to 7800GT did not double performance. ( Besides, these are different gens )

7800GT to 7900GT absolutely did not double performance. 7900GT is only slightly faster than a 7800GTX. And a 7800GTX in no way shape or form was anywhere near twice as fast as a 7800GT. Like I said. Keep it real. You are pulling these comments out of some nether region.

:roll: whatever you reckon, Mr Proctologist...

7800GT
7800GTX (20% faster)
7900GT (approx the same as 7800gtx)
7900GTX (15% faster than 7800gtx & 7900gt)

Youre making yourself look like a tard. Somewhere you are mixing up SLI with single cards.

 

[nitromullet]

Originally posted by: Gstanfor

Originally posted by: nitromullet

Not so for SLI, its simply more mature.

SLI works, but isn't exactly problem free, just swing by the nvidia forums... Funny how you who has neither Crossfire nor SLI seems to be an authority.

like in all forums, what you see there are the clueless, who have a hard time finding the video control panel, let alone adjust anything inside it.

I've found SLi to be a joy to use, frankly and never encountered an "error" that couldn't be corrected with an appropriate setting.

I really don't know why this is being brought up in this thread anyway. If you want to talk about trolls and trolling, look for those who drag nv30 and AEG in at every opportunity, and create a page and a half of troll posts just because i said "nvidia likes to roughly double their performance generation to generation".

Well, one of the topmost threads in the NVIDIA SLI forums right now is one of my own creation, and I can assure that I have no problems finding the CP, but I do have problems running the currently most popular MMORPG with SLI and v-sync with any stability. If what you mean by "appropriate setting" is to turn off a feature that I would rather not have to, then I guess you're right.

 

[imported_Crusader]

Originally posted by: nitromullet

Not so for SLI, its simply more mature.

SLI works, but isn't exactly problem free, just swing by the nvidia forums... Funny how you who has neither Crossfire nor SLI seems to be an authority.

Err.. I've had SLI multiple times. I bought SLI as soon as I could get it.

Unfortunately, for you, it was great from Day One. Believe it or not..
so yeah, I am as much of an authority on multiGPU solutions as you are.

Originally posted by: Elfear

Originally posted by: Crusader


I edited the post and put the links in.
As far as my claims about Crossfire sucking, Shaidar from Rage3D could def vouch for that. But I dont know a ton of people with Crossfire because they dont really sell any in comparison to SLI rigs (and good for ATI, because it'd only further their bad rep).
When Crossfire works, it works and is great. My point was, Ackmed has never posted a single thread about Crossfire problems or issues, or a complaint.. when everyone else I know has plenty of reasons to complain about it. Not so for SLI, its simply more mature.

Hmm. I'd never heard that before. Sounds like an issue with either dual monitors or CCC or both. That would be annoying if it was flickering a lot but it sounds like using ATT fixes the problem. The only people that wouldn't help are the Crossfire users who have dual monitors. I have never had that flickering occur except on startup when CCC is initializing. Not sure what the other guys are doing different.

Regardless, the way you talk about the problem makes it sound like a wide-spread epidemic. Not really an accurate description of a problem experienced by only a few people. Certainly not a very good reason why you would never recommend ATI to any of your friends.

Well, I purchased a laptop for my dad.. and it does it with the integrated Radeon graphics as well. I KNEW it was related to the damn ATI in there.. but that confirmed it and I wish I'd gone with something else now rather than assume ATI can render a desktop properly.

Originally posted by: josh6079

You are retarded to write posts for other people as if you are so amusing. At least be funny if you're going to do that so I can have a laugh.

You've got issues if you think I'm here to make you laugh.

Seriously kid, you do make me laugh though. You always have some petty quote in your sig. You just want to argue and troll around. I'm looking forward to G80 myself, arent you excited?
Knowing the bane of your existence- the NV supporters, will be stomping the crap out of your slow X1900 with a Geforce8. Your company is dead already, you just dont realize it yet (doh). It must suck supporting the losing team.

 

[josh6079]

Unfortunately, for you, it was great from Day One. Believe it or not..

Pardon me if I believe not...

Seriously kid, you do make me laugh though. You always have some petty quote in your sig.

It's not my quote, a heavy Nvidia supporter claimed it.

You just want to argue and troll around.

You are telling me this? Practice what you preach hypocrite.

How many times have I recently recommended the new 7900GTO's to people looking for cards? Who made a thread discussing their own disatisfaction with the X1900's in BF2 and their artifacting guns? Who argued with Ackmed when he was trying to say that HDR+AA is a better feature than 8xS?

I'm looking forward to G80 myself, arent you excited?

If you would take your head out of that green orfice you will see that I am excited about G80 and really hope that it is as impressive as it sounds thus far. I'm itching for a reason to have EVGA supplying me with support for expensive hardware while giving me a good step-up path.

Knowing the bane of your existence- the NV supporters, will be stomping the crap out of your slow X1900 with a Geforce8.

Have I argued otherwise?

If that is the case than how is your card an exception. The X1900XT is right on par and sometimes better than the 7900GTX, if G80 stomps it your card is under its feet as well there champ.

Your company is dead already, you just dont realize it yet (doh).

My company? Not so much. A company that contends very well with the competition. Again, it's hard to see how they are dead when DFI has got enthusiasts wrapped around its fingers waiting for the new Lanparty with the RD600 chipset in it. Not to mention a perfected, two-way scalable link interface that suprasses Nvidia's one-way SLI with their upcoming R600 chip, there is still activity between the two compaines and you'd have to be stupid, blind, or heavily-biased to not see it. Why else would Nvidia be so tight-lipped about their G80?

It suck supporting the losing team.

It sucks supporting any "team" which is what you don't get. I like to have what gives me what I want, and don't care one bit what color it is. You on the other hand will blindly follow one and only one company. I've honestly never seen another person so upset with something they don't own.

Flame-bait posts like yours is the reason why there is another G80 thread. Look at who you're trying to argue against. nitromullet has had more experience with both Nvidia and ATI than you have as of late and you're still trying to tell him that his experiences were rare yet jump all over ATI's almost unheard of "flickering" issue. Grow up already dude, video card companies don't need cheerleaders like you.

 

[nitromullet]

Originally posted by: Crusader
I am as much of an authority on multiGPU solutions as you are.

Funny, I don't recall you ever having a Crossfire rig, but I could be mistaken. Furthermore, I have not taken on the "authority" role, as you have, by bringing up problems that others should have had with systems I have no personal experience with. I am simply referring to issues that I have personally encountered with SLI on multiple platforms with a variety of different NVIDIA multi-gpu setups.

Make no mistake, based my experiences with both, I prefer SLI to Crossfire (and have said so on multiple occasions), I like SLI overall, but that doesn't mean that SLI is not without its flaws.

 

[LittleNemoNES]

Originally posted by: Crusader
I'm not sure if you are aware of the flickering ATI issue Elfear? But its no "untruth". It might be an issue that ATI fans might want to appear as part of "Crusaders Untruths" but it unfortunately reality.
http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?t=33853327
http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...&STARTPAGE=2&FTVAR_FORUMVIEWTMP=Linear

AT the end of both of those topics a solution was given. It's like Akshayt...we can't be help responsible if he doesn't know how to properly run his hardware.

like in all forums, what you see there are the clueless,

This underlines the point I made to crusader.
The irony is, gstanforgullible is that you yourself are clueless

 

[Gstanfor]

This underlines the point I made to crusader.
The irony is, gstanforgullible is that you yourself are clueless

Oh, really? thanks for letting me know.

BTW, the birdies have started whispering a juicy little ATi rumor in my ear - I'm sure I'm not the only one to have heard it, but I can't help noticing that none of the fanatics have gone out of their way to report on it yet - which is kinda strange, 'cause if it involved nvidia rather than ati/amd they would be screaming it from the rooftops...

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: Gstanfor

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

Originally posted by: Gstanfor
6800U to 7800 GT did, 7800GT to 7900GT did. I still think it's a large ask. The performance may be capable of getting up around 2x 7950GX2, but I doubt it will be able to consistently sustain it. I'd like to be proven wrong though.

6800U to 7800GT did not double performance. ( Besides, these are different gens )

7800GT to 7900GT absolutely did not double performance. 7900GT is only slightly faster than a 7800GTX. And a 7800GTX in no way shape or form was anywhere near twice as fast as a 7800GT. Like I said. Keep it real. You are pulling these comments out of some nether region.

:roll: whatever you reckon, Mr Proctologist...

Maybe I should take up proctology. This way, I can figure out how to remove your olfactory unit from Nvidia's butt crack without causing too much trauma for you. Always think of the patient first.

And by the way, Rollo has asked me to give you a message after he read some of your posts.

I quote: "Could you tell Gstanfor he?s on crack- that 7900GT and 7800GTX at stock clocks are about equal?"

 

[Gstanfor]

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

Originally posted by: Gstanfor

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

Originally posted by: Gstanfor
6800U to 7800 GT did, 7800GT to 7900GT did. I still think it's a large ask. The performance may be capable of getting up around 2x 7950GX2, but I doubt it will be able to consistently sustain it. I'd like to be proven wrong though.

6800U to 7800GT did not double performance. ( Besides, these are different gens )

7800GT to 7900GT absolutely did not double performance. 7900GT is only slightly faster than a 7800GTX. And a 7800GTX in no way shape or form was anywhere near twice as fast as a 7800GT. Like I said. Keep it real. You are pulling these comments out of some nether region.

:roll: whatever you reckon, Mr Proctologist...

Maybe I should take up proctology. This way, I can figure out how to remove your olfactory unit from Nvidia's butt crack without causing too much trauma for you. Always think of the patient first.

And by the way, Rollo has asked me to give you a message after he read some of your posts.

I quote: "Could you tell Gstanfor he?s on crack- that 7900GT and 7800GTX at stock clocks are about equal?"

Rollo's just sore about what I've said about him...

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Do ask him how his 7800GTX 512 "investments" are going - I reckon he could almost refill his cracks pipe with the proceeds by now...

 

[Gstanfor]

I notice the fanatics still don't want to share the ATi rumor... I wonder why not....

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: Gstanfor

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

Originally posted by: Gstanfor

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

Originally posted by: Gstanfor
6800U to 7800 GT did, 7800GT to 7900GT did. I still think it's a large ask. The performance may be capable of getting up around 2x 7950GX2, but I doubt it will be able to consistently sustain it. I'd like to be proven wrong though.

6800U to 7800GT did not double performance. ( Besides, these are different gens )

7800GT to 7900GT absolutely did not double performance. 7900GT is only slightly faster than a 7800GTX. And a 7800GTX in no way shape or form was anywhere near twice as fast as a 7800GT. Like I said. Keep it real. You are pulling these comments out of some nether region.

:roll: whatever you reckon, Mr Proctologist...

Maybe I should take up proctology. This way, I can figure out how to remove your olfactory unit from Nvidia's butt crack without causing too much trauma for you. Always think of the patient first.

And by the way, Rollo has asked me to give you a message after he read some of your posts.

I quote: "Could you tell Gstanfor he?s on crack- that 7900GT and 7800GTX at stock clocks are about equal?"

Rollo's just sore about what I've said about him...

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Do ask him how his 7800GTX 512 "investments" are going - I reckon he could almost refill his cracks pipe with the proceeds by now...

Do lets. And also please take a look at the cards you chose for that comparison. Did you even bother to take a look at the clocks? You have shown a stock 7800GTX against an overclocked 7900GT. In fact, there isn't even an option in the pulldowns to choose a stock clocked 7900GT at 450/1320. At stock clocks (7800GTX @ 430/1200 is just about equivalent to a 7900GT @ 450/1320). It's obvious Gstanfor. Some of the crap that spews forth from you is just as bad as some of the things akshayt comes out with.

 

[Gstanfor]

What sort of fool goes and purchases a stock clocked 7900GT?

Even nvidia agrees - that's why we now have the 7950 GT...

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: Gstanfor
What sort of fool goes and purchases a stock clocked 7900GT?

You're a fool to even suggest this. Someone who would like to save a few dollars. How could you not know this? Oh... nevermind..

P.S. I just signed up for night school proctology classes. Hang in there buddy, help is on the way.

 

[Creig]

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

Originally posted by: Gstanfor
What sort of fool goes and purchases a stock clocked 7900GT?

You're a fool to even suggest this. Someone who would like to save a few dollars. How could you not know this? Oh... nevermind..

P.S. I just signed up for night school proctology classes. Hang in there buddy, help is on the way.

Good one.

 

[Sable]

Originally posted by: Gstanfor
I notice the fanatics still don't want to share the ATi rumor... I wonder why not....

Could be they haven't heard this rumour. Just post it you sad little man.

I heard a rumour, the R600 is fully 512bit. Stick that in your green pipe and smoke away there squire. :thumbsup:

edit:

Here ya go:

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=31&threadid=1942913&enterthread=y

Come have a ncie chat about it. you can say things like "hah, well G80 is gonna be out first" and "that's just a rumour". It'll be fun.

 

[Gstanfor]

No, thats not the one...

Oh and keys, show me where *any* 7900GT is below the blue 7800 GTX result in those graphs - oh thats right... You can't! can you!? Notice how the graphs have *all tested cards* included in them?

 

[LittleNemoNES]

Originally posted by: Gstanfor
No, thats not the one...

Oh and keys, show me where *any* 7900GT is below the blue 7800 GTX result in those graphs - oh thats right... You can't! can you!? Notice how the graphs have *all tested cards* included in them?

You're actually right about that. 7900GT=7800GTX so 7900GT>7800GT.
I still want to ban you, though. Didn't you admit that you were AEG?

 

[Gstanfor]

I am not associated in any way with AEG or nvidia, unfortunately for you!

 

[Sable]

Originally posted by: Gstanfor
I am not associated in any way with AEG or nvidia, unfortunately for you!

Why unforuntealy for him? Did you just run crying to the anandtech mod to grass him up?

He didn;t accuse you, he asked if you admitted it.

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: Gstanfor
No, thats not the one...

Oh and keys, show me where *any* 7900GT is below the blue 7800 GTX result in those graphs - oh thats right... You can't! can you!? Notice how the graphs have *all tested cards* included in them?

I already explained to you why, dude. (Mic test :::tap, tap, tap::: Is this thing on? ). There are no stock clocked 7900GT's anywhere in those graphs. All overclocked, factory or otherwise. If you really did have any understanding about this hardware, you would already know that a 7800GTX and a 7900GT are virtually the same card. 24 pipes each. The 7900GT core transistor count went down from 302million on the G70 core to about 278million on the G71. Nv trimmed down the trannies, but no functionality has changed. Stock clock to stock clock, 7800GTX and 7900GT are virtually identical. With maybe a couple of frames here and there for the 7900GT because of a 20MHz increase on core, and 60MHz increase on memory. But that's it. Only real advantages being, the 7900GT uses less power and runs a bit cooler than a 7800GTX.

 

[Gstanfor]

Have I even claimed that (apart from streamlining the pipelines) G71 is any different to G70? No, I haven't.

Maybe the reason why Tom's don't have a stock clocked 7900 GT (a rare beast indeed) is because no-one in their right mind buys them!!!

If people couldn't afford a 7900 GT, they bought a 7600 GT until 7900 GS came along. I should know - sell the cards on a daily basis.

You don't hear much about 7600 GT here, but even moreso than 7900 series they are massively, massively popular with Joe Average. They are probably more popular than GF2MX 400 or GF4 4200 at the height of their popularity.

 

[nitromullet]

Two questions for you G...

1) Why do you continue to fuel this debate? You made an incorrect claim about 7900GT being faster then 7800GTX SLI, and everyone called you on it. Why do you want to continue to remind us of your mistake? No big deal, move on...

2) What is this supposed rumor you have on R600 that the rest of us don't know? If you actually have something of interest to discuss I'd love to hear it. Otherwise, I call shens...

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: Gstanfor
Have I even claimed that (apart from streamlining the pipelines) G71 is any different to G70? No, I haven't.

Maybe the reason why Tom's don't have a stock clocked 7900 GT (a rare beast indeed) is because no-one in their right mind buys them!!!

If people couldn't afford a 7900 GT, they bought a 7600 GT until 7900 GS came along. I should know - sell the cards on a daily basis.

You don't hear much about 7600 GT here, but even moreso than 7900 series they are massively, massively popular with Joe Average. They are probably more popular than GF2MX 400 or GF4 4200 at the height of their popularity.

You're attempt at a derail and segway to another subject entirely is duly noted, and has failed. Suddenly you introduce a 7600GT? What for? Stick to what we are talking about please.

I own, as you can tell from my sig, a stock clocked 7900GT. I aquired it for 200.00. about 50 dollars less than a faster clocked 7900GT (At the time of actual purchase). Did I settle for anything less than a 7900GT? No. I searched, and I got my deal, as many others have.