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supaxi

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if the cost of a wafer is the same, and let's just say you double the number of chips produced on it because the die is smaller, you have just cut your material cost in half. Also, if you have a wafer and you produce 4 chips on it, if one is bad due to a flaw, you have a 25% failure rate. On the other hand, if that wafer could make 8 chips and one is bad, you now only have a 12.5% failure rate.
 

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The failure rate is probably the highest when the chip density of a wafer is increased. Without knowing exactly how hot a chip will be with that density it probably takes them awhile to get the most out of the design.
 

speckedhoncho

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Hopefully Nvidia is pouring a lot of money into parallel execution unit R&D with all the profit they are making.

The only motivation they would have to release a high-end is the desire to capture the large screen (2560x1600) market. No one has that sealed. Even the GTX and Ultra go down to 35-40fps with AA,HDR,etc at that resolution.

Heck, maybe they want developers to catch up to the hardware architecture changes
 

chewietobbacca

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I would love to have a single card solution for my 30" monitor since the Ultra does drop down to near unplayable on a lot of games maxed out, and certianly w/ no AA at that res

However, knowing Nvidia, they'd probably prefer we do SLI and hold off on giving us a high end
 
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Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
NV42 = 6800 PCI-e

G72 = GeForce 7300

G82 = does not exist

So, it's anyone's guess. Looks like Nvidia is just skipping G90 and going right into what would be it's refresh?

maybe G80 + 12 (for 12 months) = G92?
 

Keysplayr

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Originally posted by: ronnn
Ha, more personal attack ads. Nobody called nvidia an evil fortress of darkness. Nvidia (like ati) was willing to put out lacklustre midrange cards that get pawned by last gen. Maybe one day in the distant future dx10 games will make those cards have some value, but am not holding my breath. If the g92 is as advertised - this would make up for that deficit.

Umm, I did? And I asked him to ease up on it because it gets tiring to read in almost every post in almost every thread in video relating to Nvidia. Keep emotions in check, talk about the tech. Simple. I wonder, did I personally attack myself? I don't feel offended.

Check yourself ronnn.
 

NanoStuff

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Originally posted by: chewietobbacca
I would love to have a single card solution for my 30" monitor since the Ultra does drop down to near unplayable on a lot of games maxed out, and certianly w/ no AA at that res

However, knowing Nvidia, they'd probably prefer we do SLI and hold off on giving us a high end
Not meeting your unrealistic expectations doesn't suggest the Ultra is not high-end.
 

chewietobbacca

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I meant new high end buddy, which if was 1Tflop, would definitely hold its own at that res at current games. The Ultra more than meets my expectations, but that doesn't mean it couldn't be better with a new generation
 

Keysplayr

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Originally posted by: otispunkmeyer
Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
NV42 = 6800 PCI-e

G72 = GeForce 7300

G82 = does not exist

So, it's anyone's guess. Looks like Nvidia is just skipping G90 and going right into what would be it's refresh?

maybe G80 + 12 (for 12 months) = G92?

What if they're late? G93?
 

TotallyWired

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Originally posted by: solofly
I didn't see anybody post this yet. (I hope it's true, my 8800GTX doesn't feel that fast anymore, latest games bring it down to its knees)

http://www.fudzilla.com/index....=view&id=2939&Itemid=1



Hey Guys, long time lurker, short time poster.

Solofly posts the above link and no-one comments it, was it already posted somewhere else?


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G92 is the high end solution Print E-mail
Written by Fuad Abazovic
Monday, 10 September 2007 07:37

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G98 is for the entry level



There has been a lot of talk about G92 and many sites reported that this chip is a mainstream part. Our well informed sources have confirmed our previous allegation that G92 is a high end.

It should be a faster clocked revised version of the G80 core at 65 nanometre and it should launch in mid November. The G98 is also the real codename and that is the 65 nanometre version of the G86 the 80 nanometre entry level chip. 65 nanometre will help Nvidia to make its production cheaper and the chips cooler.

 

NanoStuff

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Originally posted by: chewietobbacca
I meant new high end buddy
There's always a new high end, and it's relative. If the 9800 was only 1% faster it would still be high end as long as there's nothing higher-end.

Anyways, it seems unlikely the 9800 will have a higher fillrate, if not lower than the 8800. The focus now is primarily on effects/geometry, and pretty much all things pre-raster. I wouldn't be expecting comfortable wild resolutions from the next generation.
 

andylawcc

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Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
Originally posted by: otispunkmeyer
Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
NV42 = 6800 PCI-e

G72 = GeForce 7300

G82 = does not exist

So, it's anyone's guess. Looks like Nvidia is just skipping G90 and going right into what would be it's refresh?

maybe G80 + 12 (for 12 months) = G92?

What if they're late? G93?

no wonder it's called Duke Nukem 1/0
 

manowar821

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I want speed approximations... Hehe.

Edit:

What the hell? There's so much fud being spread around, it's like butter, and we're the toast.

Like this:
http://www.geforce9.com/

Apparently they think the enthusiast version is coming out in early 08 ( which would be past my 90 day step-up period ), along with the fudzilla, and such.

However, this inquirer article from today states that the enthusiast version is going to be available in November.

Due to the fact that the site I linked you guys to is full of lies, and the inquirer article is newer, I'd like to believe the enthusiast version is coming out in November. Who knows, though. This is ridiculous.

Frick, I hope that it comes out by early December through E-VGA, I just got my GTX on Saturday, and I was planning on stepping up to the D8E...
 

imported_Shaq

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They are all over the map. Check out the inquirer's article today. http://www.theinquirer.org/?article=42569

They state that 2 enthusiast parts and a value part are coming out in november with the mainstream due next year. Which means probably GTX and GTS. This makes more sense based upon wht they have been doing in the past. But they have said it both ways so they can always say I told you so. We should have more definitive info in another 3-4 weeks though.
 

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Originally posted by: Wreckage
I'm still waiting for a DX10 equivalent of my 7950GT. It can come from either company.

8800gts is probably equivalent but it's still expensive.

Hopefully in a couple months we can get that 8700gts or whatever for $200 range.
 

Matt2

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This topic has been giving me a headache for about a month now. There is so little concrete information and so much fud going around that it's ridiculous.

Personally I'm hoping for a high-end part in November.
 

praesto

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Originally posted by: Matt2
This topic has been giving me a headache for about a month now. There is so little concrete information and so much fud going around that it's ridiculous.

Personally I'm hoping for a high-end part in November.

Lol I agree so much. To my understanding, anybody can make up a frakkin' rumor at this moment, all the fud taken into consideration. There isn't even enough official statement(s) from nvidia to back up 1/10 of the rumors!
 
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