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Bookcase14

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The world doesn't revolve around YOU Panter, I mean't anyone could answer the question!(j/k)! At any rate. I'll give that stuff a go when I get home. I dont see how my current RAM could be SO incompatible considering everything boots up with my RAM, and windows installed and etc. Anyway. Thanks for the advice, I'll have to do some trial and error.
 

pantner

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Originally posted by: Bookcase14
The world doesn't revolve around YOU Panter.
ok,

1. its 'Pantner'...

2. sorry, i was up till 3:00am this morning setting up a large scale network for a LAN party (ie 10x24-port Switches!!!!)...and then i had to get up at 8:00am to get ready for work...

*Edit*

ROFL, i just re-read your message and realised what you meant....i was just using myself as an example...give me a break...im tired!
 

Ballistyx

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Originally posted by: pantner
Originally posted by: Bookcase14
The world doesn't revolve around YOU Panter.
ok,

1. its 'Pantner'...

2. sorry, i was up till 3:00am this morning setting up a large scale network for a LAN party (ie 10x24-port Switches!!!!)...and then i had to get up at 8:00am to get ready for work...

*Edit*

ROFL, i just re-read your message and realised what you meant....i was just using myself as an example...give me a break...im tired!

Looks like somebody got up on the wrong side of the coffin this morning.

j/j

Sorry... was looking for an excuse to use that line. hehe

 

pantner

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Originally posted by: Ballistyx
Originally posted by: pantner
Originally posted by: Bookcase14
The world doesn't revolve around YOU Panter.
ok,

1. its 'Pantner'...

2. sorry, i was up till 3:00am this morning setting up a large scale network for a LAN party (ie 10x24-port Switches!!!!)...and then i had to get up at 8:00am to get ready for work...

*Edit*

ROFL, i just re-read your message and realised what you meant....i was just using myself as an example...give me a break...im tired!

Looks like somebody got up on the wrong side of the coffin this morning.

j/j

Sorry... was looking for an excuse to use that line. hehe


ROFL!!!!

Theres a right side of the coffin???

Like i said...i work place if holding a LAN Party, and i was up till 3:00am setting up the bloody network...i hate computers!

its actually on at the moment...the network that i set up is running good

im heading down there tonight......anyone that lives in Perth, WA (Western Australia)...goto the Storm Computers LAN Party...(hey...its worth a shot!!!)
 

coachrg

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Hi have found this forum very helpful. I just about have my FX53 running. I had all the trouble with the memory. Went through three matched pairs of identical 512 DDR 400 memory. One pair worked in every slot, singly or inpairs and every voltage and speed etc. The other two pairs only came up as 256. In fact, is I had the "good" pair installed and running at 1 gig, if I installed either of the "bad" pair, the BIOS saw all four slots full but Windows only saw 256 meg of RAM. After reading everything here, I finally gave up and exchanged the two "bad" pairs for one pair of matched 1 gig DDR 400. They work fine when by themselves, but if I load them with the "good" pair, all the MB sees is 1 gig of RAM from the 512 pair. Again, I swapped them around and changed speeds and no difference. So Im running with the matched pair of DDR 400 at 2 gig of RAM.

I am running two Raptor SATA stripped and no ATA HDs. I have an 800 Pro video board and Creative sound card. When I loaded XP, all went well until I loaded the SATA driver from the Gigabyte CD. Every time I load the SATA driver XP will not boot. At all. I can and have reloaded XP in about half an hour - 6 times. So I ran it for a week without the SATA driver loaded in XP - I loaded from a floppy the driver I downloaded in order to get XP to see the drives as covered elswhere in this forum.

The first problem I ran into was the memory. Since going to the two 1 gig DDR it runs fine, with them in 3/4 (closest to the CPU) or 1/2.

The second problem I encountered was the SATA driver. After running in XP default mode, I crossed my fingers and let XP load the driver of choice and wonder of wonders it worked fine and is running like a banchie.

The third problem I encountered was the power supply. I R&Rs my existing AMD 2800 in my favorite case. It had a 550 watt power supply. I was also running four case fans. When I went to the new configuration, the first time I booted after loading XP it ran fine until I fired up Halflife. When it went into full up mode the screen went black and all went silent. It ran out of watts and just shut down as near as I can tell. So I unplugged the fans and rebooted. It came right back up and I could usually plug in one of the case fans before it went TU. So I went to Tiger and got a 600 watt PS and now I am running two power supplies. The 600 for the MB, 800Pro video, and the second PS for everything not connected directly to the MB. It now is very stable and has had no crash problems at all.

The final and continuing problem I have not figured out yet but on boot up, as soon as XP starts it gives me an error message about the ATA RAID having a problem and shutting down. Not sure what this is about as the only disks I have are the Raptors on SATA which are working fine and two DVD / CD drives, one player one burner.

I am planning on installing the IDE RAID - a matched pair of 20 gig WD drives and loading up XP64 to see how it does.

The reason for all the above is - the only reason that this thing is running is because of the tips and help that I found in these pages and I wanted to say thanks, and share my experience with all.

I love the machine, it does some stuff so fast that its almost like it happens before I ask it to do it. I play Planetside a LOT. My frame rates with the same video board and working through the same 4meg/356 cable connection used to be ~ 20-80. Now with the FX its ~80-200. Very cool!
 

flawlssdistortn

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Well that's great to hear coachrg, I'm glad you got your rig up and running. Once you get through all the quirks of the K8NSNXP-939, the board aint too bad. You know your PSU issue is kinda weird, cause I'm running my system with only a 480W unit. I get the impression that your initial power supply was underperforming in terms of consistent current, not in terms of amount of power. So what you really needed was a power supply that could maintain steady voltage and current under load, not necessarily a unit that provided a max 600W. High end Athlon 64 systems with RAID, graphics cards, and sound cards need stable power sources. I'm not sure how well the Gigabyte dual power system works. I've heard complaints of the Vcore fluctuating up to 1.9V (luckily I haven't encountered this). And the GA-K8NS-ULTRA is identical to our model except they removed the DPS. Doesn't make you feel too confident about it, ya know?
 

pantner

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yeah, with PSUs...its not so much the rating, but how good the actual PSU is...

we sell a 400W PSU for $40AUD, and then a Thermaltake 420W for $79....obviously the ThermalTake is much better....

my old PSU was a 500W, but in anticipation for my new rig i got my Antec550W, as i knew my PSU wasn't really 500W...it was closer to 420W IMO....
 

rednuhT

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Nov 23, 2004
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Dear all...
I have big problems with GA-K8NSNXP 939 using 4xDDR400 512MB Dual Faces Twin Mos benchs. BIOS automatically resets the timing in default, but giving values absolutely "out of mind".
I sent a message to Gigabyte service, and they answered as below...

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Dear Sir,

Thank you for your kindly mail and supporting Gigabyte.
About the issue you mentioned in your earlier mail, in fact, according to AMD AP note BIOS should set to DDR333 with two dimm DDR400 , we still provide related option item if user try to change to DDR400. But, we will not guarantee the module/system will work properly. We are really sorry for the inconvenience and trouble you encounter because of the CPU limitation.

At last, we apology if our past service was not satisfactory. Due to the vast amounts of questions we receive daily, we understand the inconvenience of waiting for e-mail responses. If you still have any further question or suggestion about our product, please do not hesitate to contact with us. Thanks again for your understanding, and please receive our sincerely apology.

******** Thank you for supporting Gigabyte products ***********
******************************************************************

Sorry, but I read and read it many time because I cannot believe that.
They wrote... according to AMD AP note BIOS should set to DDR333 with two dimm DDR400... but outside the box and inner the manual they wrote that the MoBo support DDR400, now they said that's not true?!?!?!?!!?

I have not words over :-(

This will be my last Gigabyte MoBo in my life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

flawlssdistortn

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Yes, this is "technically true" but you know what? Almost ALL the other mobo manufacturers seemed to have been able to work around this issue to make the Athlon64 even more versitile. And so they get to advertise DDR400 in dual channel. It seems as if Gigabyte jumped on the marketing bandwagon so as to stay competitive, but the thing is, they didn't do the engineering work.

This pretty much sums up my frustration

http://forums.anandtech.com/me...15&highlight_key=y
 

rednuhT

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Ok, they didn't engineering the chipset to adapt it to support DDR400, but they publicized absolutely wrong informations. They MUST say that their MoBo supports only 333MHz frequence and, to be fully correct with their customer, they SHOULD report a dcument with compatibility of the MoBo with the DDR module in the market, like MSI is doing for K8N Neo2 Platinum.
It is a frustration to pay this incompetence up to the skin of the customer...
 

pantner

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Originally posted by: rednuhT
Ok, they didn't engineering the chipset to adapt it to support DDR400, but they publicized absolutely wrong informations. They MUST say that their MoBo supports only 333MHz frequence and, to be fully correct with their customer, they SHOULD report a dcument with compatibility of the MoBo with the DDR module in the market, like MSI is doing for K8N Neo2 Platinum.
It is a frustration to pay this incompetence up to the skin of the customer...

however, it is possible to get the motherboard to run at DDR400 in dual channel....possible, but unlikely...
 

Bookcase14

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Speaking of DDR400. On bootup my screen says I'm running Dual Channel at 200mhz...That's not 400DDR though huh? I haven't looked inside the ctrl-f1 settings so im not sure. I'm not really a RAm wiz, but does that mean I'm running at 400?
 

flawlssdistortn

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It's referring to the CPU's fsb speed I believe. Anyway, DDR400 is really 200Mhz @ "double data rate". So it's effective speed is 400 and it's actual is 200
 

Brickster

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Originally posted by: flawlssdistortn
It's referring to the CPU's fsb speed I believe. Anyway, DDR400 is really 200Mhz @ "double data rate". So it's effective speed is 400 and it's actual is 200

So, if someone is running at DDR333 on bootup, it will say "166"?

Thanks,
 

flawlssdistortn

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I think the frequency you see when you first boot is referring to the fsb, not the memory speed. And the fsb defaults at 200. To check your mem frequency, look in the BIOS adv options.
 

flawlssdistortn

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under no circumstances should you buy this board, it's just got too many issues and headaches. I'd go for the MSI if you're especially interested in overclocking, and the ASUS if you want something stable and reliable.
 

pantner

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or if you can wait a month or so...get the DFI NForceIII Ultra-D when it is released...thats wat im getting to replace my K8NSNXP-939 (as ASUS and MSI don't really appeal to me...)
 

pantner

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ok, before you do any more benching on AQ3, get This

it will let us see your REAL Clock speeds...

and is that overclocked???

here's mine

Stock (ie, no overclock)

Overclocked

and also get the 61.34 NVidia Drivers, they're best for benching with AQ3...and use driver cleaner to clean out all the previous drivers you have...
 

Ballistyx

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Yes, it's overclocked (461GPU / 1.17RAM). I'm not really interested in going for the best AQ3 score I can get though, so I'll stick with the 66.71 drivers I've got installed for now. It's running fast enough for what I want it for (EQ-II). It's noticeably faster in all the games I play over my old 9800Pro too.

Still, all the same, I'm impressed with your OC'ed AQ3 score! How'd you do it?


-B
 

coachrg

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I continued to have problems getting mine to boot reliably. I finally developed a technique where I pulled the plug on the powersupply for the videoboard. The inrush current demands for the 800 Pro were enough to throw the 480 watt power supply into protection shutdown mode so it would never boot. If I pulled the side cover, slipped the connector out of the power supply, hit the button and waited for a second then plugged the connector into the power supply it ran just fine.

Until today. Today I followed this procedure and the 800 Pro flamed. I mean it smoked and threw sparks and just had a great time. I immediately pulled the plug but the damage was done. I pulled the 800 pro and installed my old nvidia board but only got grey shapes marching across the screen. I presume that the video inputs to the MB are fried. I am hopeful that they went before the CPU died but will not know for a while. Any thoughts?
 

Ballistyx

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What are my thoughts? You should have forked out the money for a better PSU before it took your vid card and motherboard out. Now it's going to cost you not only for a PSU, but for a vid card and a new motherboard.

Sorry if I sound like a jerk, but in a way, you were asking for it if you kept pulling the plug on the vid card to boot the computer. It obviously wasn't working as it should, and you kept forcing it to work. It was only a matter of time before it went up in flames.

BTW, Pantner. I re-ran my benchmarks again. I turned off T2 timmings in the BIOS, and it raised my score a little: http://arc.aquamark3.com/arc/a...iew.php?run=1089891894

 
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