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PottedMeat

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lulz

http://news.yahoo.com/seven-weirdest-things-moammar-gadhafi-170209296.html

1. The "Bulletproof" Tent: When Gadhafi was at home in Tripoli, he lived in a well fortified compound with a complex system of escape tunnels. But when he travelled abroad, this "Bedouin" brought a bit of the desert with him, camping out in the world's capitals. The tent was so heavy it needed to be flown on a separate plane, wherever the dictator travelled. To complete the Arabian Nights theme, Gadhafi often would tether a camel or two outside.

2. All-Female Virgin Bodyguard Retinue: They apparently weren't around when Gadhafi needed them most on Thursday, but the eccentric dictator was historically protected by 40 well trained bodyguards – all of them women. The bodyguards, called "Amazons," were all reportedly virgins who took a vow of chastity upon joining the dictator's retinue. The women, trained at an all-female military academy, were handpicked by Gadhafi. They wore elaborate uniforms, as well as makeup and high-heeled combat boots.

3. His "Voluptuous" Ukrainian Nurse: For a decade, Galyna Kolotnytska, a Ukrainian nurse often described in the press as "voluptuous," was regularly seen at the dictator's side. Kolotnytska was described in a leaked diplomatic cable as one of Gadhafi's closest aides and was rumored to have a romantic relationship with him. Several other Ukrainian women served as nurses and they all referred to him as "Papa" or "Daddy."

4. Crush on Condoleezza Rice: In 2007, Gadhafi called former Sec. of State Condoleezza Rice his "darling black African woman" and on a 2008 visit she made to Tripoli, the dictator gave her $200,000 worth of gifts, including a ring and a lute. But it wasn't until rebels stormed his Tripoli compound that the depths of the dictator's infatuation were exposed. There among Gadhafi's belongings was a carefully composed photo album made up of dozens of images of no one but Rice.

5. Fear of Flying and Elevators: Part of the reason Gadhafi loved travelling with that tent of his was because he was worried about lodging in a hotel where he'd have to ride an elevator. According to leaked diplomatic cables, the Libyan didn't like heights much either, and would only climb to a height of 35 steps. He therefore wasn't much of a fan of flying, refusing to travel by air for more than eight hours at a time. When he would travel to New York of the U.N.'s annual general assembly, he would spend a night in Portugal on the way to the U.S.

6. Bunga Bunga: In 2010, one of Gadhafi's most eccentric pastimes was exposed by Italian prosecutors investigating Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi. A 17-year-old prostitute named Karima el-Mahroug, better known as Ruby Heartstealer, revealed that she had been invited to an orgy, called a "bunga bunga." "Silvio told me that he'd copied that formula from Muammar Gadhafi," she told prosecutors according to La Repubblica. "It's a ritual of [Gadhafi's] African harem."

7. An Eclectic Wardrobe: In those photos of world leaders standing shoulder to shoulder on the sidelines of this or that international forum, Gadhafi was always the easiest to pick out. His wardrobe was an eclectic mix of ornate military uniforms, Miami Vice style leisure suits, and Bedouin robes. Gadhafi, who pushed for a pan-African federation of nations, often decorated his outfits with images of the African continent. He'd sport safari shirts printed with an Africa pattern, or wear garish pins or necklaces of the continent.
 

GrGr

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See my sig. The law means nothing to the federal government. Was it a constitutional violation, quite possibly, but the only people who seem to care don't have the power to do anything about it.

The US is a fascist banana republic with unmatched military power. Might makes right.
 

dawp

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http://weaselzippers.us/2011/10/20/video-gaddafis-final-moments-captured-alive-by-rebel-forces/


There is the face of the new Libya - a bunch of religious nuts screaming Allah Akbar as they kill Gaddafi [without trial]. Also note that they tied up a Black man on the back of a truck which you can see at the end of the video...Its already well known that the "rebels" dislike Black people and in every city they have liberated, blacks are arrested and often beat and killed.

When a brutal dictator is overthrown, they usually don't survive, just look at Benito Mussolini, and several of those behind the Iron Curtain, such as Nicolae Ceaușescu.

when Mussolini was killed, his body was treated pretty badly.



Do you really think non-Muslims are any better? they're not.
 
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RampantAndroid

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We are part of NATO. We agreed to be part of NATO so if NATO declares militaty action is required the President can go forward.

Negative. If we are engaging hostiles, congressional approval is required. NATO doesn't bypass that. Nor does the UN. Nowhere but NOWHERE does our law state that a UN resolution is binding, or supersedes our own laws. Certainly not when it comes to our military. The issue at hand is the definition of hostiles. Obullsh*t is claiming we aren't dealing with hostiles.

But let's play a different game. Pin the quote on the a**hole president:
"The president does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation."

You get one guess. I'll give you a hint: he's currently in office.
 
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adlep

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When a brutal dictator is overthrown, they usually don't survive, just look at Benito Mussolini, and several of those behind the Iron Curtain, such as Nicolae Ceaușescu.

when Mussolini was killed, his body was treated pretty badly.



Do you really think non-Muslims are any better? they're not.

that was 50 years ago - in the US the black folks were not allowed to seat with the white people back then....
 

dawp

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^makes no difference, all people will treat a dictator the same way given a chance.
 

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The Republican frauds are embarrassing themselves today. This wise and beautiful woman Rubio slams Europe then praises them. Its just politics for these people. Why am I surprised?

People were getting murdered for weeks in Libya. Diplomats to the U.N. were begging the world for action. The Arabs even used their jets and support on Libya. There were defections every week all around Ghadaffi. And when the people who were saved from his rampage threw a parade thanking the U.N. and the United States.

There was plenty of consensus, there was a actual coalition. Yet these wise and beautiful woman Republicans were hedging from the jump. Should have saw McCain today, trying to pretend he wanted Ghadaffi the whole time. John weren't you his drug and gun dealer only a few years ago? Rumsfield thinks you're a fraud!
 

UberNeuman

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The Republican frauds are embarrassing themselves today. This wise and beautiful woman Rubio slams Europe then praises them. Its just politics for these people. Why am I surprised?

People were getting murdered for weeks in Libya. Diplomats to the U.N. were begging the world for action. The Arabs even used their jets and support on Libya. There were defections every week all around Ghadaffi. And when the people who were saved from his rampage threw a parade thanking the U.N. and the United States.

There was plenty of consensus, there was a actual coalition. Yet these wise and beautiful woman Republicans were hedging from the jump. Should have saw McCain today, trying to pretend he wanted Ghadaffi the whole time. John weren't you his drug and gun dealer only a few years ago? Rumsfield thinks you're a fraud!

It's a sad day for McCain - he lost his dinner date..

 

RampantAndroid

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People were getting murdered for weeks in Libya. Diplomats to the U.N. were begging the world for action.


Kurds were being murdered in Iraq. So we were justified there?
Mugabe is still in Zimbabwe, so we should go there?

Great logic, bro.


But let's play a different game. Pin the quote on the a**hole president:
"The president does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation."

You get one guess. I'll give you a hint: he's currently in office.
 

HomerJS

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Negative. If we are engaging hostiles, congressional approval is required. NATO doesn't bypass that. Nor does the UN. Nowhere but NOWHERE does our law state that a UN resolution is binding, or supersedes our own laws. Certainly not when it comes to our military. The issue at hand is the definition of hostiles. Obullsh*t is claiming we aren't dealing with hostiles.

But let's play a different game. Pin the quote on the a**hole president:
"The president does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation."

You get one guess. I'll give you a hint: he's currently in office.

Reagan did not get congressional approval to go bomb Libya or invade Grenada
 

Doppel

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It's a sad day for McCain - he lost his dinner date..

These fvcking guys are fickle as hell. There are pics of Obama cozying up to him, Hillary buddy buddy with another one of his sons who was shot to death yesterday. And it's not like Gadhafi was a friendly dude prior to February. They all knew who he was. Unfortunately, that is also innate to politics.
 

Doppel

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Haven't read this whole thread so I don't know if you guys have seen this video, Gadhafi is still alive here:
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2011/10/20/ac-the-last-moments-of-gadhafi-capture.cnn

The word "savages" comes to mind to describe the people in this video. I'm guessing that they killed him somehow after this?
NTC claims on the way to hospital they came under attack and he ended up getting shot The bullet hole in his temple looked pretty clean to me, though. I'm sure they executed him.
 

dawp

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well, considering how he treated them, I don't begrudge the treatment he received. What goes around comes around.
 

M0RPH

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well, considering how he treated them, I don't begrudge the treatment he received. What goes around comes around.

Maybe, but I thought they were going to show the world they're different from him.
 

dawp

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That may have been their intent, but all it takes is one hothead with a gun. If I was in their shoes, I can't say I would act any differently.

Now that he is out of the picture, it's time to move on. As long as he was alive, there was something for his supports to rally behind.
 

bfdd

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It's a sad day for McCain - he lost his dinner date..


a lot of people who were screaming for his head sung a different tune a few years ago. It's absolutely silly listening to republicans thank the Europeans for this lols. Fuck those guys.
 

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So Libya is now officially a racist state populated by people that hates Black people, hates Jews, hates Christians, condones murder and raping women and blames all of those actions on Gaddafi "supporters"...Hmm, with Gaddafi dead how long can they continue to lie and blame Gaddafi for all of that ? With all of the lying it also makes you wonder how much of the info we were force fed from day 1 were lies to [Gaddafi's people killing civilians etc, maybe the Rebels did it and blamed Gaddafi].


Here is more of the "new" Libya we can expect-

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/oct/04/libyan-jew-blocked-tripoli-synagogue


"David Gerbi believed the news stories about a flowering of Western values in Libya. He took the mainstream media at its word, and people like Barack Obama at their word, that what was happening in Libya was a wonderful throwing-off of oppression and reaffirmation of human rights. But when he got there, he discovered the brutal truth behind all the fog of political correctness: "There is no place for Jews in Libya."

More on this story. "Following calls for deportation, Gerbi to return to Rome," by Lisa Palmieri-Billig for the Jerusalem Post, October 10 (thanks to all who sent this in):

A few hundred angry protesters gathered in central Tripoli on the eve of Yom Kippur on Friday, calling for the deportation of a Libyan Jew who has been trying to reopen a synagogue sealed since ousted Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi expelled the country’s Jewish community in 1967.

The protesters carried signs reading, There is no place for the Jews in Libya,” and “We don’t have a place for Zionism.”

The crowds tried to storm Italian Libyan Jewish psychoanalyst David Gerbi’s Corinthia Hotel in central Tripoli. There was also a demonstration in Benghazi in the east of the country.

According to Gerbi, the crowd wanted to forcibly remove him from the hotel.

“They were impeded by hotel and Libyan security and government officials,” he said."



Blacks rounded up as though they are not Human beings by the "good guys" in Libya that we support.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMaJDHPp9yc
 
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Doppel

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Becoming mainstream conclusion now that Gadhafi and his son were executed, in direct contradiction to earlier and obviously stupid claims from the NTC that they weren't. The bullet hole to the temple was a dead give away plus there is a video out today showing his son smoking a cigarette while sitting up and looking decidedly unclose to death.

Still, maybe these are war crimes as the UN seems to be saying. I think they are, but if the UN presses this they're going to get no sympathy from Libyans, they should let it go probably. Few will weep for this man and his family. Even if it was wrong.
 

Lemon law

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Well look at this way, the events of the Arab spring keep marching on. The old line ruler of Tunisia is gone, Mubarak is gone, Gaddafi is gone, next up will probably be Assad in Syria, Salem in Yemen is on his last legs as well as similar events.

As the events of the Arab spring seem to favor economic self determination and getting rid of old line dictators who looted the treasuries to only the benefit of themselves and their cronies.
 

Doppel

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Well look at this way, the events of the Arab spring keep marching on. The old line ruler of Tunisia is gone, Mubarak is gone, Gaddafi is gone, next up will probably be Assad in Syria, Salem in Yemen is on his last legs as well as similar events.

As the events of the Arab spring seem to favor economic self determination and getting rid of old line dictators who looted the treasuries to only the benefit of themselves and their cronies.
Can't find it now but on telegraph (?) saw a graphic a few days back. Referred to longest leaderships in middle east (including libya) and it was a bar graph running horizontally showing when they came into power with the last blip on it 2011 and showing how most had ended. Pretty dire for aholes like Syrian president. I imagine he is more than a little perturbed seeing grand ole Gadhafi being taken from a sewer drain and paraded around like a hunter's trophy kill. Unless he's damned sure he can reverse the tide in Syria he'd do well to think of an out right now before it becomes impossible to avoid the same end.
 
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