Gainward FX5900 Ultra 256M @ 520.00

[jalapenonc]

Anyone who would pay $520 for a freaking video card DON'T belong to AT's hot deal forum
Just IMHO.

 

[Stylerod]

Originally posted by: conlan
$500, reminds me of the good ol' SLI days

Your right. I remember picking up two Voodoo2 cards for $225 each. I was in SLI/24 meg video heaven. Quake really flew with those cards.... Aaaaa the good (er, bad) old days!

 

[dirtrat]

Uh, I've seen my motherboard for less than $100.00. I understand what you are saying and I guess its just a matter of time that most motherboards, even the cheaper ones will have lots of things integrated in them. BTW, whats a modem? People still use those!

Originally posted by: DVDdude

Originally posted by: dirtrat
I don't understand how people are filling up those PCI slots these days? My motherboard (Soyo Dragon KT400 Ultra) and most modern motherboards have everything built in. Great sound, LAN, RAID, USB 2, and many have Firewire also. All of my PCI slots are empty!

Because many people buy the less expensive motherboards ($70-$100) or have older motherboards that do NOT have all of the extras that your motherboard has. And some people would rather use older parts (soundcard, lan card, etc.) that they already have instead of spending more money on a more expensive motherboard.

I have a Shuttle AK35GT (KT 333) motherboard that I bought a year ago. I have 5 of my PCI slots filled - LAN card, Soundblaster Live soundcard, 56K modem (for backup in case my broadband connection goes out), TV tuner card, and an ATA 133 card for extra IDE ports (came free with my hard drive).

 

[prometheusxls]

Originally posted by: virtualgames0
if $500 is something you don't spend on video cards.. then don't come in here to crap threads.. geez

nvidia marketing does their research before they sell stuff at $500

only 2% of the market will buy the top of the line card... and 90% of the 2% will pay for it whether it's $300 or $500....

Ok so 2% of people will buy it... so how is that a hot deal?

 

[prometheusxls]

Originally posted by: ChocolateNupe
Why pay this much for a card when no game will get close to testing it until Doom. By October, december the card will be around $300. Everybody has their own priorities, but the GF4s at ~$100 are starting to look pretty good.

 

[prometheusxls]

Originally posted by: DVDdude

Originally posted by: dirtrat
I don't understand how people are filling up those PCI slots these days? My motherboard (Soyo Dragon KT400 Ultra) and most modern motherboards have everything built in. Great sound, LAN, RAID, USB 2, and many have Firewire also. All of my PCI slots are empty!

Because many people buy the less expensive motherboards ($70-$100) or have older motherboards that do NOT have all of the extras that your motherboard has. And some people would rather use older parts (soundcard, lan card, etc.) that they already have instead of spending more money on a more expensive motherboard.

I have a Shuttle AK35GT (KT 333) motherboard that I bought a year ago. I have 5 of my PCI slots filled - LAN card, Soundblaster Live soundcard, 56K modem (for backup in case my broadband connection goes out), TV tuner card, and an ATA 133 card for extra IDE ports (came free with my hard drive).

Who in their right mind would buy a $500 video card and still be using an micro-ATX or 2 year old mobo w/ no features? Just spend $120 more and buy a mobo w/ decent onboard features (RAID, lan, nforce audio,...) . I havent used more than 1 pci slot since onboard lan became a standard.

 

[conehead433]

This is so hot I'm going to wait a couple of years and see what they're selling for then. I'm sorry, but video cards, no matter how good they are for $500+ is definitely not hot.

 

[docinthebox]

Wow, hot deal! Ordered 10. Thanks!

This is going to make a kill on ebay.

edit: oops, forgot the smiley face, in case anyone takes me seriously.

 

[Stefan2000]

Originally posted by: dirtrat
Uh, I've seen my motherboard for less than $100.00. I understand what you are saying and I guess its just a matter of time that most motherboards, even the cheaper ones will have lots of things integrated in them. BTW, whats a modem? People still use those!

Originally posted by: DVDdude

Originally posted by: dirtrat
I don't understand how people are filling up those PCI slots these days? My motherboard (Soyo Dragon KT400 Ultra) and most modern motherboards have everything built in. Great sound, LAN, RAID, USB 2, and many have Firewire also. All of my PCI slots are empty!

Because many people buy the less expensive motherboards ($70-$100) or have older motherboards that do NOT have all of the extras that your motherboard has. And some people would rather use older parts (soundcard, lan card, etc.) that they already have instead of spending more money on a more expensive motherboard.

I have a Shuttle AK35GT (KT 333) motherboard that I bought a year ago. I have 5 of my PCI slots filled - LAN card, Soundblaster Live soundcard, 56K modem (for backup in case my broadband connection goes out), TV tuner card, and an ATA 133 card for extra IDE ports (came free with my hard drive).

Well, actually my reasoning is just the opposite of DVdudes. In my case the stuff you find integrated into motherbaords is not satisfactory for me. For example when you talk about motherboards having onboard raid, what kind of raid are we talking about? Most of the onboard raid controllers I've seen are cheap IDE raid controllers based on very low end Promise, highpoint, or CMD chips. These are more toy raid controllers than anything else. You don't generally see real hardware raid controllers built into motherboards. So, if I want a real raid controllers that's one PCI slot already. Also, the integrated sound you find on most motherbaords leaves alot to be desired. So, if you want a high quality sound card that's another PCI slot. As for onboard ethernet, my board already has that, but it's not gigabit. So, I need a gigabit card instead. I also have an HDTV tuner card (havent' seen any motherboard that come with those onboard yet. I also have a cenatek rocketdrive which uses up another PCI slot. So, as you can see I'm using most of my PCI slots already. Anyway, it's not just the fact that I can't afford to lose a PCI slot. It's also the particular slot that I would be losing that's a problem. My motherboard is the Supermicro P4DC6, and on it the PCI slots located directly below the AGP slot are the 2 64bit 66Mhz slots. So, I wouldn't just be losing a regular PCI slot with this card but would be losing one of my more important PCI slots which I need for my high bandwidth devices like the gigabit NIC and the raid controller.

Also my motherboard cost a bit more than $100 (like 6 times that much). So, I'm a little more reluctant to just replace it with a newer one. Also, it's a very good solid board that work very well with all my other components and performs well. The only newer boards that would be a comparable replacement for it would be the E7505 chipset based boards and I'm not really sure if those boards would really be that much of a worthwhile upgrade over my P4DC6.

 

[DVDdude]

1. $500 for a gaming video card is RETARDED no matter what kind of system you have.

2. The majority of people out there are not upgrading their cpu and motherboard every 3-6 months whenever there is a slight speed increase.

3. A lot of people prefer the sound/features of a Soundblaster Audigy (PCI CARD) to the sound of the Nforce 2 built in sound.

4. Yes, people still use regular old 56K dial up modems. The MAJORITY of internet users still connect to the web by old slow dial up modems.

5. Yes, in time, even the cheapest motherboards will probably have LAN, firewire, bluetooth, etc. completely integrated. But most of the cheapest AMD boards (right now) still only have LAN and AC97 audio (yuk).

In conclusion, yes, there is still a need for PCI slots. And yes, $500 for a gaming video card is NO BARGAIN.

 

[clarkmo]

Originally posted by: virtualgames0
if $500 is something you don't spend on video cards.. then don't come in here to crap threads.. geez

nvidia marketing does their research before they sell stuff at $500

only 2% of the market will buy the top of the line card... and 90% of the 2% will pay for it whether it's $300 or $500....

Yes, but I think it's still gonna be a bust. They are a solid enough company , though, that they'll get over it. $520. I t really should have a barton on it at that price. It could run the apps with the onboard cpu!

 

[booze]

i'll buy a gffx 5900 ultra 256mb when it has dual dvi.

 

[kusanagiz]

dude you guys need to chill down. The poster was either A) Having some fun w/ the post to see everybody's reaction B) Thought there would be a person out there who MAY be interested in getting the latest technology no matter the cost and to THEM it's a hot deal.

 

[ElectricLegs]

Originally posted by: fastman
Last time I paid $500 for a Video card is when I bought an original 4 meg Matrox Millennemium w/ a 4 meg daughter card and that will be the last time I do.

The one before the Millenium (Impression Plus?) was $600 from Micron and all it would do is spin the Matrox logo for a screensaver! Still have it too. I can't bare to toss a $600 video card in the trash. lol

 

[TekDemon]

Originally posted by: prometheusxls

Who in their right mind would buy a $500 video card and still be using an micro-ATX or 2 year old mobo w/ no features? Just spend $120 more and buy a mobo w/ decent onboard features (RAID, lan, nforce audio,...) . I havent used more than 1 pci slot since onboard lan became a standard.

You have to remember the people who would buy a $500 video card probably would just disable the onboard stuff so they can use their $200 Audigy2 Platinum Super Ultra Plus Mega Bay setup that takes up two 5 and a quarter bays or something. Then they would disable the onboard raid since it saps too much CPU power being softraid, and probably install something less CPU taxing so they get another 5 FPS.

And you know that onboard LAN solution isn't going to satisfy them, they have to go buy the Intel Pro Gigabit ethernet card or something. The boards with everything onboard are for people who *don't* buy $520 video cards =P

Anyway, I actually feel really dumb having an Intel 845G board and putting more stuff in...it's really weird to have redundant LAN, redundant video(although the 845G's graphics spazz out if you overclock), redundent audio, etc. But I happened to have PCI network cards and supposedly it's faster than the realtek chip for LAN, and my SB Live 5.1 is better(at least less CPU hoggy) than the onboard sound...and intel "extreme" graphics aren't extreme at all soo...

On the upside I get the warm fuzzy feeling that even if all my PCI and AGP cards were to commit suicide(oh yeah I used to have a Promise FastTrak66 in there too alongside the onboard HiPoint raid...not because I'm stupid and think the FastTrak uses less CPU but because I migrated the Raid Array and didn't want to lose my data you silly people) I would still have a rather full functioning system that could still play quake 3 and halflife and warcraft 3. =P

Yeah it was a waste of money.

 

[TekDemon]

Originally posted by: ElectricLegs

Originally posted by: fastman
Last time I paid $500 for a Video card is when I bought an original 4 meg Matrox Millennemium w/ a 4 meg daughter card and that will be the last time I do.

The one before the Millenium (Impression Plus?) was $600 from Micron and all it would do is spin the Matrox logo for a screensaver! Still have it too. I can't bare to toss a $600 video card in the trash. lol

heh...I don't remember exactly how much but I think the Mystique was pretty pricey back in the day too...I remember cheaping out and buying some Rage IIC+ based board (3D Expression+PC2TV! IT HAD TV OUT!!!) with a whopping 2MB of RAM...and Direct X support! I think that was like DirectX5 or something like that...and that board cost me a hundred something...

 

[Jondbold]

for $529 I could build a Asus P4800 865 w/ 2.4c 9500 which i'd mod to 9700 and 512mb of buffalo 3500

 

[mindless1]

The sad thing is, some unlucky person will order one right before the price drops, it'll be worth $100 less by the time it lands on their doorstep.

 

[TerryMathews]

Originally posted by: DVDdude
3. A lot of people prefer the sound/features of a Soundblaster Audigy (PCI CARD) to the sound of the Nforce 2 built in sound.[/b]

Not valid for the price point we're talking about. Anyone who's going to drop $500 on a video card is going to have a DD 5.1 reciever hooked up to the digital out on their audio card, eliminating all noise created on said sound card. In that respect, the nForce is at least equal to the Audigy 2. I don't know how you can improve on pure digital out.

 

[DragonMasterAlex]

Heh, if I were gonna spend that much, it would NOT be on the 5900 Ultra. Hell, in the new PC Gamer the sorry thing couldn't even COMPLETE a third of the Benchmarks! Nvidia's really slacking lately, so I say go ATI!

Jason

 

[Krutoy]

Originally posted by: DragonMasterAlex
Heh, if I were gonna spend that much, it would NOT be on the 5900 Ultra. Hell, in the new PC Gamer the sorry thing couldn't even COMPLETE a third of the Benchmarks! Nvidia's really slacking lately, so I say go ATI!

Jason

If the goons at PC Gamer don't know how to run the benchmarks, shouldn't blame it on the card. I'll take this one over the radeon in a month or two.

 

[huesmann]

Originally posted by: Stylerod

Originally posted by: conlan
$500, reminds me of the good ol' SLI days

Your right. I remember picking up two Voodoo2 cards for $225 each. I was in SLI/24 meg video heaven. Quake really flew with those cards.... Aaaaa the good (er, bad) old days!

Yep, plus if you hooked them up with a TNT board you had the best of both worlds, fast D3D and fast Glide.