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Red Storm

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What's funny to me is that I returned my Note 7 because of unacceptably sluggish performance issues, and the day after I sent it back in the mail the news broke on the exploding batteries and a potential recall.

Maybe for once Touchwiz's annoyances actually saved my life.

I wish the Note 7 didn't have issues though. I think it's the best looking smartphone ever made, and it felt great in hand as well. My current "dream" phone is a Nexus/Pixel phone with dual front facing speakers, edge display like the Note 7, and an S Pen equivalent. I will continue to keep dreaming.
 
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Kazukian

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In the latest podcast, The Verge says they found the owner when they saw the story on the wire and asked for a photo of the box. It was one of their transportation reporters, Jordan Golson.
 

Raduque

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So after 3, you'll give me an apology? Not that you don't owe me one already.
I don't owe you redacted.



No profanity allowed in the tech forums.


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Zaap

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My current "dream" phone is a Nexus/Pixel phone with dual front facing speakers, edge display like the Note 7, and an S Pen equivalent. I will continue to keep dreaming.
Hell... other than the speakers (I'll never care about speakers on a phone as if there was any universe in which that would sound like anything worth listening to) if that existed, I'd own one.

Instead Google made what looks like Barbie's play phone from 2013.

And the s-pen is the only game in town. Makes me wonder would it be that hard for Microsoft to make a Surface phone? Or Apple to make a smaller phone sized version of the pencil. Eh... that'd take some actual innovation which appears to be passé in 2016.
 

Kazukian

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Oh, look, Sprint's catering to your people, Chicken Little.

TMobile just jumped on board too.

Not sure what your problem is, it's news about the Note 7, if it was an iPhone, LG product, etc, I'd post about it too. I'm sorry you own one, if you feel it's such an important thing, why didn't you keep your 1st gen Note 7 to prove how brave you are?

The potential liability Samsung is looking at is massive. The reputation damage is already in process. I owned a Note 1,2,3, and 4, I'm a fan, I called it the best phone in the market, in this thread, until the 100 odd fires, and they haven't even begun to accumulate the daily physical insults cell phones accumulate while they're used for months and years. I wouldn't use a bent iPhone 6 or any bent or damaged phone because of the potential battery damage, not will I risk a 1st or 2nd gen Note 7.

This isn't a personal issue, it's a public safety issue.
 
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Raduque

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TMobile just jumped on board too.

Not sure what your problem is, it's news about the Note 7, if it was an iPhone, LG product, etc, I'd post about it too. I'm sorry you own one, if you feel it's such an important thing, why didn't you keep your 1st gen Note 7 to prove how brave you are?

The potential liability Samsung is looking at is massive. The reputation damage is already in process. I owned a Note 1,2,3, and 4, I'm a fan, I called it the best phone in the market, in this thread, until the 100 odd fires, and they haven't even begun to accumulate the daily physical insults cell phones accumulate while they're used for months and years. I wouldn't use a bent iPhone 6 or any bent or damaged phone because of the potential battery damage, not will I risk a 1st or 2nd gen Note 7.

This isn't a personal issue, it's a public safety issue.

You ignored my numbers from the last time I posted them, don't ignore them this time.

In two weeks following the launch of the first run of defective Note 7s, there were 100 total cases of overheating, and less then half of those resulted in a fire. Out of 2,500,000 phones.

It has been about two weeks since the availability of the second run non-defective devices, there has been exactly one alleged fire. Do you not think that if it were a problem, there would be more fires? Or maybe you're just blowing it far out of proportion.

I know which one I think is more likely (hint: it's the latter).

Edit: To answer your question about me trading mine in, I only did it because of all the incentives offered. I ended up with double accessories, a backup S-Pen, free case (from Best Buy), $25 credit on my account, and not having to deal with the popups on boot/charging. Plus, I even have another uSD card being shipped to me.
 
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Kazukian

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Numbers don't matter if 1 causes a plane crash or a fatal car accident.

AT&T just announced it'll take Note 7's back.
 

Raduque

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Planes and cars crash every day. There was a fatal 3-car crash on 191 yesterday afternoon. Is the note 7 somehow to blame for that too?

A second iPhone caught fire yesterday, too. http://abc30.com/news/fresno-woman-...ed-and-caught-on-fire-in-her-bedroom/1543292/

I think we're going to see a lot more of this. All phones of all kinds have the potential to set themselves on fire. It's an inherent risk of lithium batteries. About the only good thing that will come of the Note 7 recall and spotlight on it, is that lithium technology will be scrutinized a bit more. Maybe it will accelerate research on alternate high energy density battery tech.
 

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Raduque and Kazukian:

Please take your arguments with each other to PMs.

You both are mucking up the thread. Next time I repsond will be to issue infractions.


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Kazukian

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AT&T
Sprint
TMobile
Verizon

Have all announced they'll take Note 7's back for exchange.
 

golem

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You ignored my numbers from the last time I posted them, don't ignore them this time.

In two weeks following the launch of the first run of defective Note 7s, there were 100 total cases of overheating, and less then half of those resulted in a fire. Out of 2,500,000 phones.

It has been about two weeks since the availability of the second run non-defective devices, there has been exactly one alleged fire. Do you not think that if it were a problem, there would be more fires? Or maybe you're just blowing it far out of proportion.

I know which one I think is more likely (hint: it's the latter).

Edit: To answer your question about me trading mine in, I only did it because of all the incentives offered. I ended up with double accessories, a backup S-Pen, free case (from Best Buy), $25 credit on my account, and not having to deal with the popups on boot/charging. Plus, I even have another uSD card being shipped to me.

Regarding your numbers. That's 2.5 million phones shipped worldwide (not sold) including China which was supposed to be safe. In 2 weeks, that is like 14 to 20 charge cycles (if every phone was purchased day 1) and 100 caught on fire or exploded.

Iphone fire you linked (Iphone 6 and not 6s or 7 btw), that model has been out for roughly 2 years now and sold orders of magnitude more than 2.5 million units.

So you are comparing 100 plus fires (that we know about) out of a max possible of 2.5 million (being generous) over a course of 2 weeks vs 2 fires (that we know about) out of a possible 320 million (rough estimate) over a course of 2 years.
 
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badb0y

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Zaap and Raduque on suicide watch. Congratulations, y'all played yourselves. I don't know why you guys were so adamant about this since Samsung issued a recall. No one recalls a product that has low amounts of random failures.
 
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Crono

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I was looking online this morning to see if I could get the Coral Blue anywhere from a non-Verizon carrier or Best Buy. No go.

I wonder if this is the end of the Note brand. Samsung might come back with another line or just add to the Galaxy S series next time around, but Note has to be dead after back-to-back years of serious design flaws.

A new line could be a good opportunity for Samsung, though. A better pro/power user option that is more durable (i.e. not so much glass, more ruggedized), even cleaner TouchWiz, removeable battery and microSD slot, and perhaps go even larger screen (6.0"+) with a big-ass (but well tested this time ) battery. Let the S8 be the pretty one, and shove every checklist power user feature into the new line.
 
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Raduque

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Regarding your numbers. That's 2.5 million phones shipped worldwide (not sold) including China which was supposed to be safe. In 2 weeks, that is like 14 to 20 charge cycles (if every phone was purchased day 1) and 100 caught on fire or exploded.

Iphone fire you linked (Iphone 6 and not 6s or 7 btw), that model has been out for roughly 2 years now and sold orders of magnitude more than 2.5 million units.

So you are comparing 100 plus fires (that we know about) out of a max possible of 2.5 million (being generous) over a course of 2 weeks vs 2 fires (that we know about) out of a possible 320 million (rough estimate) over a course of 2 years.
There are way way way more than two iPhone fires. There was a whole several months where the iPhone 4 was routinely catching fire in people's pants, in the EU.

I am going to say this: I'm keeping my phone. I don't care what happens. Literally every phone out there is a downgrade. There is nothing as good as the Note 7.
 
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Zaap

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Zaap and Raduque on suicide watch. Congratulations, y'all played yourselves. I don't know why you guys were so adamant about this since Samsung issued a recall. No one recalls a product that has low amounts of random failures.
What was I just saying about people on a tech forum supposedly being smarter than this type of nonsense?

Man, people are dumb.
 
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