Galaxy S3 vs Iphone 5

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ponyo

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Take my bet too i can use the money to buy an iphone lol

You guys are nuts if you think you can get 8 hours of lte speeds.ill even bet it wont get 8 hours of 3g surfing

I don't know. I wouldn't bet against Apple hitting that. I bet it will be pretty close or better with great/perfect LTE sigbal
 

MrX8503

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I find it funny how you think it will get 8 hours of lte use.i will give you 500 bucks if that phone getd anywhere near that.

You are confusing lte data with regular talktime

That cell will NOT get anywhere near 8 hours of lte browsing and prolly not even half that.

I get 5.5 hours on screen lte time with a 2700mah battery on my gs3.

Talk time is like only 10 hours and that rating is with the screen iff and lte off
A previous poster was confused with talk time, I was not.

No where near 8 hrs? I guess we shall see. My prediction is that it'll be closer to 8hrs. In other words, way longer than your claimed Gnex great battery life.

2700mah? Lol.
 

grkM3

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A previous poster was confused with talk time, I was not.

No where near 8 hrs? I guess we shall see. My prediction is that it'll be closer to 8hrs. In other words, way longer than your claimed Gnex great battery life.

2700mah? Lol.

I'm sorry but you have no clue my friend.the iPhone 5 has the same modem as the GS3 and I'm pretty sure you have never even used a 4g cell but if you somehow think apple can pull 8 hours of lte use while say streaming Netflix I don't know what to tell u.

I'm on jelly with the latest Samsung drivers with a custom kernel with qualcomms latest drivers tweaked with less voltage and the CPUs running half clocks with less volts and nearly get 5.5 hours on a 3.8 volt 2680mah battery.

Take my bet if you think Apple can somehow pull that off,heck I'll be impressed if they get 8 hours of screen time with no data modems enabled aka airplane mode
 
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I'm sorry but you have no clue my friend.the iPhone 5 has the same modem as the GS3 and I'm pretty sure you have never even used a 4g cell but if you somehow think apple can pull 8 hours of lte use while say streaming Netflix I don't know what to tell u.

I'm on jelly with the latest Samsung drivers with a custom kernel with qualcomms latest drivers tweaked with less voltage and the CPUs running half clocks with less volts and nearly get 5.5 hours on a 3.8 volt 2680mah battery.

Take my bet if you think Apple can somehow pull that off,heck I'll be impressed if they get 8 hours of screen time with no data modems enabled aka airplane mode

The iPhone uses Qualcomm MDM9615. SGS3 uses Qualcomm MSM8960. Different.

Furthermore, the iPHone has always been great at battery life.


How do you explain that? The iPhone and its tinyass battery outdoes every other phone on there.

The point is Apple has always been EFFICIENT at battery use. Look at normalized use:



There's no point in using your SGS3 as some sort of battery champ until we get OBJECTIVE numbers from Anand or any other site.
 
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Kenmitch

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The iPhone uses Qualcomm MDM9615. SGS3 uses Qualcomm MSM8960. Different.

Modem vs SOC ???

Edit: Looked it up on google. The iPhone uses a seperate modem chip. The SGS3 has the modem built into the SOC but couldn't find info on the modem built into the SOC.
 
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Infrnl

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I will just say that those charts are not accurate. Also manufacturers claims are never accurate either.
Battery size is fairly irrelevant in some respect. The hardware used along with os, etc that has been properly designed can be more efficient.

I will agree that apple has been great with their battery life on all their products. They are the ones that set the standard for laptops for years and still do as good if not better with smaller batteries than everyone else.
I will also say that I am not too impressed with battery life on my iPhone 4. Maybe I got a lemon. Apple usually has their ducks in a row so I think they will get good results on the 5 and lte. However I plan to try a razr hd maxx this time around.
I am not an apple fan by any means and mine will not last a day with what little I do. Just wanted to share my experience and I am always open to options.

Have fun with your debate
 

grkM3

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No it doesn't. Seems like you're the one with no clue.

ohhh you got me,the difference is apple has a seperate modem and the gs3 has that same modem built into its soc with its s4 cpus.Its there 28nm cat 3 lte modem and if apple used the soon to be cat 4 150mb/sec modem then I would say its different but both phone are based on the cat 3 28nm 100mb chip

its there latest lte modem in both phones while in one case its seperate and the other uses there snapdragon cpus as a bundle soc

or do you think qualcomm made a revolutionary new 28nm modem just for the iphone 5? Iwould say yes if it got the newer MDM9625 buts its not so live with the fact that its pretty much the same exact chip as the gs3,htc onx,optomus and pretty much all the latest 4g phones

and those hours posted above is nothing close to real life use as most of my co workers have iphone 4s and they are always plugging that thing in and complain about its lower battery life over there older iphone 4
 
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ohhh you got me,the difference is apple has a seperate modem and the gs3 has that same modem built into its soc with its s4 cpus.Its there 28nm cat 3 lte modem and if apple used the soon to be cat 4 150mb/sec modem then I would say its different but both phone are based on the cat 3 28nm 100mb chip

its there latest lte modem in both phones while in one case its seperate and the other uses there snapdragon cpus as a bundle soc

or do you think qualcomm made a revolutionary new 28nm modem just for the iphone 5? Iwould say yes if it got the newer MDM9625 buts its not so live with the fact that its pretty much the same exact chip as the gs3,htc onx,optomus and pretty much all the latest 4g phones

and those hours posted above is nothing close to real life use as most of my co workers have iphone 4s and they are always plugging that thing in and complain about its lower battery life over there older iphone 4
Why is your argument just based on pure speculation?

You're judging the iPhone 5 battery life based on iPhone 4S, and the SGS3 for LTE performance. How do you know any of this?

Historically speaking, Apple's been GREAT with battery life for having a 1400mAh capacity. No Android phone measures up. If you look at benchmark after benchmark, the power consumption performance of Android just doesn't match. If you see actual times being good now it's because manufacturers have moved to larger capacity batteries. SGS3 with 2100 mAh, One X with 1800 mAh, Razr HD with 2000+mAh. Having 50% more battery should allow you to beat a phone that's always had around 1400 mAh.

Anyway, the point is Apple's battery consumption is very low in general. They do make their devices efficient. Your SGS3 isn't going to define how efficient Apple can make their devices.

Furthermore, why does any of this matter? Just wait for CONTROLLED TESTING TO DETERMINE HOW GOOD THE BATTERY IS. Even if you LOVE Android, you need to realize that Apple's historically been very good at battery life, and while this may seem way too good, let's see how it turns out first before you troll away. Basically, I wouldn't bet against Apple.
 

glen

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I was almost scared to ask, but I want to know.
In the real world, I have friends with both phones, and strong opinions, but believe it or not, I get better answers here with specifics. In the real world people look at me like it is so obvious the such-n-such phone is better, why would anyone ask.
 

buckshot24

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Both are great phones. Question is, do you prefer Android over IOS? Would you rather have a smaller phone or something larger?
 

Mr. Pedantic

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I was almost scared to ask, but I want to know.
In the real world, I have friends with both phones, and strong opinions, but believe it or not, I get better answers here with specifics. In the real world people look at me like it is so obvious the such-n-such phone is better, why would anyone ask.

I'm not sure what you want to know. Asking which phone is better is inherently a subjective evaluation.
 

mosco

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Both have great hardware. The GS3 obviously has a bigger screen and a bigger battery and NFC.

Both phones are going to be fast, both phones are going to take great pictures for a phone. I really think that most of the hardware comparisons are a wash.

I have owned an iPhone 3G, a 3Gs, a 4, and Samsung Captivate, and now a HTC One X. I also work in iOS/Android development.

Before ICS, I wouldn't have been able to seriously use an android phone. I think ICS+ is usable although I am still not crazy about it.

I ended up going with the iPhone 5. I think the size should be perfect and the hardware looks great. If you don't like iOS, then don't get an iPhone. I think the Maps thing is a little overblown, because there are a lot of free Maps solutions out there that use Google Maps, Bing Maps, etc.

I also think NFC is kind of gimmicky. The stuff in the commercial about sharing playlists is something I would never do, because that involves signing up for samsung music service or something when I use Spotify. I also don't find myself sending files or movies to people that I wouldn't want to send over email or dropbox, so that they have a copy of it somewhere not on their phone. I am not saying that these features aren't useful for other people, but I just don't find them that useful.

Anyway, if you are indifferent about the screen size and NFC, I think it comes down to whether you prefer iOS or Android.
 

Dominato3r

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I disagree Mosco, the maps issue is not overblown. I rely on maps on almost a daily basis and iOS Maps in its current state would not suffix. Also the GMaps website for mobile is just terrible. The quality and responsiveness is not there.
 

mosco

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I disagree Mosco, the maps issue is not overblown. I rely on maps on almost a daily basis and iOS Maps in its current state would not suffix. Also the GMaps website for mobile is just terrible. The quality and responsiveness is not there.

Overblown is probably not the right word. I can't defend Apple for the Map service, it is simply not good at this point.

But my point was that there are free and cheap (99cents) Map apps for iOS that use Google Maps and Bing Maps so it is not as if you are stuck. In fact, since Apple's former app didn't have turn by turn, I am sure that a lot of people aren't have been using other Apps.

That doesn't mean they should have to use other Apps, things should work OOTB correctly, but there are options out there worst case.

And I should add, that I live in Boston and rely on our public transit to get to work everyday so I am pretty disappointed in Apple's new map app. I even funded this on kickstarter http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/228865951/transit-app-for-ios-6-and-beyond.
 

s44

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S3 has a significantly bigger screen but is, uh, bigger and more plasticky (if you're carrying without a case). Weight is about the same.

Horsepower is about the same. Battery life may be to Apple's advantage, though it's not clear and the S3 lets you battery swap. Connectivity is about the same, though the S3 gives you simultaneous CDMA voice/LTE data.

Besides screen/size, the main difference is in OS. S3 will get Jelly Bean in a month or two (sooner if international), but ICS is mature enough. If you ever want to change the way the phone does something, Android will let you. iOS won't. iOS has a more consistent third-party app experience, but its inability to do anything *but* apps (and even multitasking is really limited compared to ICS/JB) seems more fusty every month. Maps and navigation will continue to be behind Android for the forseeable future -- yeah you can go third-party, but the inability to change default apps really hurts in this sort of situation.

The Verge review of the iP5 lays out the iOS/JB choice quite well.
 

s44

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I also think NFC is kind of gimmicky.
The sharing is gimmicky (well, at least until S-Beam is fully ported to non-Samsung devices) but I'm having a lot of fun with Wallet. I actually think this is Apple's aluminium fetish getting in the way of functionality.

This is OT, I guess, but am I the only one who found the design of the 3G/S the iPhone high point? It still looks classic, while the 4 shape just seems tired. They say the 5 looks better in person, so we'll see.
 

Eug

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Best to get hands on use with both of them. Pick the one that meets YOUR needs.
As I said in the other thread, this is key. Get your HANDS physically on them. They are extremely different phones physically.

For me the Galaxy S III is too big, and I don't like the custom skin for the OS. I much prefer the Nexus stock Android, and I also prefer a smaller phone.

For the iPhone 5, I haven't had a chance to play with it, but I'm told it's built like a tank, and despite its length, having the same width as the 4/4S makes it feel similar to those. Soon enough I'll knock on my friends' doors to check out the iPhone 5 myself.

However, I am personally probably going to wait for the other Android phones to come out this quarter because I won't be buying a GS3. It will be either an iPhone 5, or else some other Android phone.
 
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