Galaxy S3 vs Iphone 5

[Zaap]

iOS you just go to your settings and can see the apps there and change the settings.

I've never seen anyone try to cite this as a positive vs. Android. Maybe things have changed significantly with iOS 6.

Because otherwise the settings for apps seem so inconsistant to me in iOS. The system settings does not have every app's settings from what I can see- mostly it's just the stock apps and a few random third-party apps get added in their own section. But that's generally confusing as well, as there's often only one toggle or setting there, while the app itself has the actual settings in its own menu, and it's often very inconsistant in iOS where the button for that menu of settings is. (Unlike Android which has the hardware info button.)

But as I said, maybe all this has changed in iOS 6 which would be interesting.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

Yep, it's typical though from the usual suspects.

And always with the false premises, which I guess are supposed to be accepted as fact in order to have something to argue about.

Like the idea that anyone requires JB (and provided from a carrier no less!) in order for their SGS3 to be fast. Some troll floats the notion, and people just run with it.

The reason the SGS3 is so FAST is because it has a quad (intl.) or an S4 (US). Those are extremely fast processors.

You can compare heads up with an SGS2 and the SGS3 smokes the SGS2. In ICS you finally get smooth scrolling in Twitter and Facebook, something that does NOT occur on my SGS2. I account for this difference due to the powerful CPU.

Some of those small lag issues occured on the GNex on ICS too. But let's look at JB on the GNex now. It FLIES. It absolutely feels insanely fast. Faster than an i9300 on ICS. Faster than both SGS2 i9100 and SGS3 i9300 on the hacked JB with the broken hwcomposer and memory leaks. I say this having seen my friend's GNex versus my SGS2 and my gf's SGS3.

You can also find the same sentiments on XDA by Codeworkx who is a Samsung developer who owns an i9100, i9300, and i9250 GNex. The GNex with JB is just way faster.

Basically, seeing how much improvement the GNex saw going ICS to JB, people logically concluded that putting a fully working JB on a SGS3 would make it fly even more. So you thought your SGS3 flies out of the box? Well it goes hyperdrive now. Of course that's just a logical guess of course.

If they were confident they were coming out with something soon that was going to blow the barn doors off everything else, they wouldn't have to try to sue their way out of having to compete.

If Samsung was confident that they are not inviolation of any patents by Apple, then they could've continued with the same sexy design of the SGS2. Also with their tablets they would not have designed some fugly crap like the GNote 10.1. From the beginning I already pointed out that Samsung's begun using defensive designing. Make your products look ugly preemptively?

Copy or not, the original GTab was nice. The international SGS1 and SGS2 were beautiful. The SGS3 some feel as still beautiful here, but I don't think I'm alone when other sites seem to echo that the design has changed and for the worse. I'm also pretty sure there are more than few posts on this forum about how HTC One X looks better than the SGS3, but specs-wise is a limiting factor. I find the SGS3 rather ugly, but if its internals are still convincing, then I'm willing to put up with it. Most of my friends seem to agree that if the design were home runs like the previous 2, it would've been a no brainer. As a result, at least 3 of my close friends are just waiting for the next Nexus.

 

[Zaap]

If Samsung was confident that they are not inviolation of any patents by Apple, then they could've continued with the same sexy design of the SGS2.

I wish they would have, believe me. It's clear the dumbed down the design trying to avoid Apple's crap lawsuits... and look where it got them. Sued anyway.

Hopefully, at some level within the company where it matters, a lesson has been learned. Don't do ANYTHING in anticipation of Apple not suing you- they're going to anyway. So put your best people on things, and deal with Apple's crap later, because you will anyway, even if you try and avoid it.

 

[MrX8503]

I've never seen anyone try to cite this as a positive vs. Android. Maybe things have changed significantly with iOS 6.

Because otherwise the settings for apps seem so inconsistant to me in iOS. The system settings does not have every app's settings from what I can see- mostly it's just the stock apps and a few random third-party apps get added in their own section. But that's generally confusing as well, as there's often only one toggle or setting there, while the app itself has the actual settings in its own menu, and it's often very inconsistant in iOS where the button for that menu of settings is. (Unlike Android which has the hardware info button.)

But as I said, maybe all this has changed in iOS 6 which would be interesting.

Its a matter of preference, but I prefer to have global settings all in one spot. On iOS, global settings (settings that are similar that every app shares) can be found under settings. Specific settings are in the apps themselves.

I wish they would have, believe me. It's clear the dumbed down the design trying to avoid Apple's crap lawsuits... and look where it got them. Sued anyway.

Well...FWIW, I doubt Apple will win their case against the SGS3. It was smart for Samsung to starting deviating from their past designs. Otherwise Samsung would have gotten nailed again.

 

[Zaap]

Its a matter of preference, but I prefer to have global settings all in one spot. On iOS, global settings (settings that are similar that every app shares) can be found under settings. Specific settings are in the apps themselves.

I don't see where this is significantly different from Android's system settings vs. iOS.

In terms of toggling simple things on and off like bluetooth, wifi, data, or GPS, there's no way I could go without a simple widget interface for that. At the very least, I hope Apple has made toggles for those in the notification drop-down.

It was smart for Samsung to starting deviating from their past designs. Otherwise Samsung would have gotten nailed again.

I don't believe that in the case of the SGS3. Show me where Apple ever succeeded in banning the SGS2 specifically for its outward design.

 

[Fx1]

I can tell you the feeling when you drop £500 on a new iPhone every year. Within 10 minutes of turning it on you feel that nothing has changed and its not really any better than the last.

Sure the first time you boot it up its lightning fast. Soon as you load on all your crap from backup its slow as normal.

You basically have the same phone every year with a very slightly different wrapper. In the case of the 4S this was the same wrapper.

Its disheartening.

 

[annomander]

I can tell you the feeling when you drop £500 on a new iPhone every year. Within 10 minutes of turning it on you feel that nothing has changed and its not really any better than the last.

Sure the first time you boot it up its lightning fast. Soon as you load on all your crap from backup its slow as normal.

You basically have the same phone every year with a very slightly different wrapper. In the case of the 4S this was the same wrapper.

Its disheartening.

Does anyone really think this guy buys iPhones :whiste:

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

I can tell you the feeling when you drop £500 on a new iPhone every year. Within 10 minutes of turning it on you feel that nothing has changed and its not really any better than the last.

Sure the first time you boot it up its lightning fast. Soon as you load on all your crap from backup its slow as normal.

You basically have the same phone every year with a very slightly different wrapper. In the case of the 4S this was the same wrapper.

Its disheartening.

so what about my galaxy s3? after i load it up with software, does it slow down to a galaxy s1?

 

[Fx1]

Does anyone really think this guy buys iPhones :whiste:

I used to.

 

[Fx1]

so what about my galaxy s3? after i load it up with software, does it slow down to a galaxy s1?

I have an S3 and it seems fine but i dont have quite as many apps yet

 

[zsdersw]

I doubt Apple will win their case against the SGS3.

Much to your chagrin, I'm sure.

 

[zerogear]

I have owned Galaxy S1, S2, S3 and Iphone 4S. And S3 was the slowest of all these 4 phones out of the box, in fact the only unusable phone I have ever used in my life.

I'm sorry, I've owned 3GS/4/4S and S2 and S3. Your S3 must be defective or you're obviously baiting.

 

[zerogear]

so what about my galaxy s3? after i load it up with software, does it slow down to a galaxy s1?

I have about 200 or so apps loaded, I haven't needed to restart because of a slow down of the OS, when I do, it's usually a runaway update either from a new app or a new update from dev was funky.

 

[Capt Caveman]

In the same situation, kind of. But I'm going to wait a month, if the new iPad mini has a retina display, I will probably pick one up and then an iPhone 5. If it doesn't have a retina display, I will probably go with a Nexus 7 and a SG3 or if news of a new Nexus phone comes out by then, wait til that comes out.

 

[Eug]

In the same situation, kind of. But I'm going to wait a month, if the new iPad mini has a retina display, I will probably pick one up and then an iPhone 5. If it doesn't have a retina display, I will probably go with a Nexus 7 and a SG3 or if news of a new Nexus phone comes out by then, wait til that comes out.

Why do you need to pair Android with Android and iOS with iOS? Why not one of each?

I am curious what the new Nexus phone will be, although if it's another 4.6 - 4.8" phone, I'm not interested. If it were say 4.3" with HD display and a width of under 65 mm, I'd have to consider it though.

By the way, Motorola just released the RAZR i which sports a hyperthreaded single core 2 GHz Atom processor, with a 4.3" screen and a physical overall phone width of only 60.7 mm. Unfortunately, it's 3G only, and 540p not 720p. That puts its pixel density at 256 ppi, which is well short of retina territory on a phone. Also, the video seems to indicate the OS is a bit laggy on this processor, although part of that is probably because it's running 4.0 ICS, not 4.1 JB.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Why do you need to pair Android with Android and iOS with iOS? Why not one of each?

I am curious what the new Nexus phone will be, although if it's another 4.6 - 4.8" phone, I'm not interested. If it were say 4.3" with HD display and a width of under 65 mm, I'd have to consider it though.

By the way, Motorola just released the RAZR i which sports a hyperthreaded single core 2 GHz Atom processor, with a 4.3" screen and a physical overall phone width of only 60.7 mm. Unfortunately, it's 3G only, and 540p not 720p. That puts its pixel density at 256 ppi, which is well short of retina territory on a phone. Also, the video seems to indicate the OS is a bit laggy on this processor, although part of that is probably because it's running 4.0 ICS, not 4.1 JB.

Apps mostly. Personally, I'm a little disappointed with the IP5 but an iPad mini with retina display would make up for it. I have a number of iPhone accessories and my car has a really nice iPhone interface, so switching to Android would make them useless.

But if the iPad mini has a lack luster resolution then I think the SG3 or new Nexus will be a better phone than the IP5.

 

[bearxor]

At this point (and this is kind of derailing the thread a little, so sorry) i expect a 8" iPad to have the guts of the iPhone 5 with a 1024x768 screen.

That's IF the launch it this year. If they hold off until the spring, then I really don't know.

 

[Eug]

Apps mostly. Personally, I'm a little disappointed with the IP5 but an iPad mini with retina display would make up for it. I have a number of iPhone accessories and my car has a really nice iPhone interface, so switching to Android would make them useless.

Buying an iPhone 5 and iPad mini might make some of your accessories useless anyway. I wonder how (in)compatible the new dock connection will be with older accessories through the adapter.

But if the iPad mini has a lack luster resolution then I think the SG3 or new Nexus will be a better phone than the IP5.

I'd be surprised if the iPad mini is not 1024x768 (or close to it).

It looks like my combo is going to be iPhone 5 (not ordered yet) and Nexus 7 (already in hand). It'd be nice to see a leak about the new Nexus though before I order that iPhone 5.

 

[chewietobbacca]

OP needs to ask himself what he uses currently and what he can live with, live without, etc.

As far as the DIncredible goes... the S3 will feel like a completley different phone. The jump from Android 2.3 to 4.0 ICS is mind blowing

There's also the question of what you use your phone with daily. For instance, my brother has an iPhone but he is deathly afraid of updating to the new Apple Maps (they took out Google Maps) because he uses it for subway directions in NYC. For some, that could be a deal breaker

As far as integration goes, the iPhone supports many more 3rd party accessories, but Windows Phone 8 will have a much higher integration with Windows 8 (then again, you might hate that). I would beware of spending too much on any Apple accessories as they are quite pricy (buy used if you can).

I know the new connector has an adapter, but there's definitely a lot of 3rd party accessories out the window - not to mention the new form factor, which also affects the OP's arm band stuff:

I don't think I use any apps that are exclusive to one device or another. That said, there are some add ons like fitness wrist bands and stuff that I might use, which only have iphone support.

I feel like iPhone has to be doing something right if people still love iphones and purchase them over android devices. It is also stylish to have an iphone. That said, the customizability of the GS3 appeals to me. But how long before they come out with the next model? Who knows.

Heh, I don't think using the general populace as a meter stick for "doing things right" is a smart idea - plenty of people do dumb things and spend lots of money on it. See: people living way beyond their means in this country, record ratings for junk like the Kardashians, etc.

Then I can.

It's about equivalent to a 4S at this point in terms of interface speed and fluidity. A tad faster than my old iphone 4, but maybe a tad less fluid than my wife's 4S.

Still not a bad choice and, honestly, if I was looking at Android, I'd only be looking at a Nexus. The S3 might be blazing fast when it gets JB, and I'm sure it will get JB eventually, but I don't even think it will be before the end of the year. And it likely won't get KLP.

JB is due literally next month for the international version

Apps mostly. Personally, I'm a little disappointed with the IP5 but an iPad mini with retina display would make up for it. I have a number of iPhone accessories and my car has a really nice iPhone interface, so switching to Android would make them useless.

But if the iPad mini has a lack luster resolution then I think the SG3 or new Nexus will be a better phone than the IP5.

The new lightning connector might make your iPhone interfaces useless anyways

 

[Midwayman]

The iphone is a bit more 'phone as appliance' with all the positives and negatives that come with that. IE its a phone I'm more apt to recommend to my non techie friends and parents since there is less chance I'll get support calls on it. It also has a better gaming scene if that is your thing.

Android really is all about choice. You can do a ton on Android that you'd need to jailbreak an iphone to do. Large storage is far cheaper if you like to carry a library of movies/music. The physical form also varies quite a bit more- large screens, sliders, extended battery models, etc, etc. If you're a tweaker you'll probably enjoy android more. However the stock experience generally isn't as polished.

I view Android more as a platform and iOS as a product.

 

[Kabob]

I went with the iPhone 5, but I really don't plan on keeping it unless it wows me. And from the Anand hands on video I saw yesterday of iPhone 5, I seriously doubt it. I bought the iPhone 5 mainly to flip so I can get the next Google Nexus phone. I already own GSM Galaxy Nexus which I absolutely :wub: so I didn't see the point of getting SGS3.

I've been leaning this way. I like the iPhone 5 and think it'll be great but one of the best points it has going in it's favor is the fact that it deteriorates in value so slowly compared to other phones. I can try it for two months and if I hate it I should easily be able to swap it for the next Nexus 1:1.

The iphone is a bit more 'phone as appliance' with all the positives and negatives that come with that. IE its a phone I'm more apt to recommend to my non techie friends and parents since there is less chance I'll get support calls on it. It also has a better gaming scene if that is your thing.

Android really is all about choice. You can do a ton on Android that you'd need to jailbreak an iphone to do. Large storage is far cheaper if you like to carry a library of movies/music. The physical form also varies quite a bit more- large screens, sliders, extended battery models, etc, etc. If you're a tweaker you'll probably enjoy android more. However the stock experience generally isn't as polished.

I view Android more as a platform and iOS as a product.

Well said. Having used the worst Android phone every created (SGS Fascinate) for 2 years I may fall in love with it, we'll see. My wife really wants an SGS 3 as she's become so used to the customization of Android. All my friends chide me saying how great Android is once you root it and OC it and whatnot. They tell me how large the screen is. Me? I just want a phone that works. The new Android phones are (IMHO) too large, if I want a large screen I have a TV, a 24" computer monitor, and a 10" iPad...

 

[bearxor]

I view Android more as a platform and iOS as a product.

Probably the best way I've ever seen this put.

 

[chewietobbacca]

Well said. Having used the worst Android phone every created (SGS Fascinate) for 2 years I may fall in love with it, we'll see. My wife really wants an SGS 3 as she's become so used to the customization of Android. All my friends chide me saying how great Android is once you root it and OC it and whatnot. They tell me how large the screen is. Me? I just want a phone that works. The new Android phones are (IMHO) too large, if I want a large screen I have a TV, a 24" computer monitor, and a 10" iPad...

I would've agreed as I was put off by the large size of the SGS3... but after using it, it's so very hard to go back. It's like when I made the move to the 30" monitor... some thought I was crazy, but I have a hard time ever going back to something smaller

If your wife gets the SGS3, try it out and see for yourself

 

[Eug]

I find the SGSIII a two-handed product, which I find annoying. The other annoying thing is the skin. In general I prefer the stock Android OS... although I'd prefer have no buttons on screen. For Android in general, I dislike the fact that part of the screen is wasted on those buttons.

 

[MrX8503]

I would've agreed as I was put off by the large size of the SGS3... but after using it, it's so very hard to go back. It's like when I made the move to the 30" monitor... some thought I was crazy, but I have a hard time ever going back to something smaller

If your wife gets the SGS3, try it out and see for yourself

That's not a correct comparison. You don't have to put your 30" monitor in your pocket or carry it around one handed. The monitor sits on your desk.

I wouldn't mind if the iPhone 5 was a 4.8" device, but I can appreciate its compact form factor at 4"