Galaxy S3 vs Iphone 5

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MrX8503

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This is the first time since the iPhone 3GS that Apple launched a new iPhone that wasn't outclassed by Android phones already on the market in CPU performance. I wonder if they're starting to take specs seriously now that competition is tougher than before.

Apple is probably going to design their SoCs from now on because they require very efficient SoCs with quick turn around times. If the A15 was ready, they would have used that. When you're a company that produces millions of phones you need to get your hands on hardware way in advance.

With this method, Apple doesn't have to wait around anymore and can have better control of what they need and when they need it.
 

zerocool84

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I do think mobile payments ARE overhyped. It's nothing that interesting or to write home about.

I think if anything else, apps like gopago are more interesting in that you can pay a store through your phone AND order through it. That's really changing the traditional process of buying something. NFC payments only intend to replace your credit card in your wallet, and in the end you're just showing off contactless payment, but it's still the same concept as swiping a card but instead you're tapping it.

Look, if apple DOES deploy NFC and it becomes a hit, what does that show? That Google failed miserably to deploy technology? I mean if it was THAT impressive with the Nexus S, why did the HTC Sensation and SGS2 flagship phones of 2011 lack it? And if it's that amazing now why are the HTC One X and SGS3 blocked from Google Wallet (at least the US ones). Worldwide, it seems no one even accepts Google Wallet payments.

Technological innovations are nice, but inventions come in left and right. It's execution in the end that matters. Google showed that it failed in execution with NFC and Google Wallet. In it's current implementation, it's an absolute disaster. So yes I'm right about it's something that people don't care about.

Maybe Apple can implement it better.

Edit: Also to see a post like this from someone whose avatar is an Android pissing on an apple...

Well we know why those phones don't have Google Wallet because the carriers those phones are on are making their own payment system. The problem with any mobile payment system is that not everyone supports the same system. The Verizon GNexus has Google Wallet blocked because they are making their own system. I don't care who eventually gets us to that standard, I just want it soon. Yet again because of the carriers, we are lagging behind other parts of the world in this regard as well.
 

mikegg

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This is the first time since the iPhone 3GS that Apple launched a new iPhone that wasn't outclassed by Android phones already on the market in CPU performance. I wonder if they're starting to take specs seriously now that competition is tougher than before.
From most Anandtech reviews of iPhones, I always saw benchmarks where Apple's CPU/GPU performance blows Android phones away. Some had Android phones winning.

I just don't get how Apple phones have a disadvantage in CPU? And despite having "better" CPUs, Android phones haven't been nearly as smooth or snappy. It's taken them a few years to catch up to Apple in real world snappiness with JB.

And for the record, I do think that Apple can cram even faster CPUs and GPUs in their phones but what's the point if it's going to hurt battery life?
 

dagamer34

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From most Anandtech reviews of iPhones, I always saw benchmarks where Apple's CPU/GPU performance blows Android phones away. Some had Android phones winning.

I just don't get how Apple phones have a disadvantage in CPU? And despite having "better" CPUs, Android phones haven't been nearly as smooth or snappy. It's taken them a few years to catch up to Apple in real world snappiness with JB.

And for the record, I do think that Apple can cram even faster CPUs and GPUs in their phones but what's the point if it's going to hurt battery life?

It'll be interesting to see when Windows Phone 8 comes out with Snapdragon S4 SoCs, we'll finally be able to measure how efficient/inefficient Android code is in comparison to other S4 devices like the HTC One X and US Galaxy S III. I strongly suspect Android phones could perform a lot better if Google declared from on-high a single chipset to be supported and clearly optimized for that SoC only, but we'll have to wait and see.
 

s44

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So apropos of the thumb thing, I noticed that the iPhone 5 "bigger screen!" ad shows the guy one-handing it in his *left* hand. People do this IRL?
 

NaOH

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I have owned an SGS1 and SGS3, and the SGS3 is incredibly faster out of the box than the SGS1. It's faster out of the box than any Android phone on the market. My first-hand opinion mirrors every professional SGS3 review out there.

Same. I had the iPhone 4 as well and that was WAYYYYYYYYY slower than the SGS3. This is across the board for me on my friends SGS3s as well (about 3 - 4 different handsets). Seems like he had a bad phone or something was screwy for sure.
 

MrX8503

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Same. I had the iPhone 4 as well and that was WAYYYYYYYYY slower than the SGS3. This is across the board for me on my friends SGS3s as well (about 3 - 4 different handsets). Seems like he had a bad phone or something was screwy for sure.

The 4 is a 2+yr old device. Try the iPhone 5, it's blazing.
 

zerocool84

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It'll be interesting to see when Windows Phone 8 comes out with Snapdragon S4 SoCs, we'll finally be able to measure how efficient/inefficient Android code is in comparison to other S4 devices like the HTC One X and US Galaxy S III. I strongly suspect Android phones could perform a lot better if Google declared from on-high a single chipset to be supported and clearly optimized for that SoC only, but we'll have to wait and see.

Well duh of course if Android was locked down like Windows Phone or iPhone it would perform better but fortunately for us, it's not and we get a multitude of phones that we can choose from to suit out wants/needs.
 

Eug

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Well duh of course if Android was locked down like Windows Phone or iPhone it would perform better but fortunately for us, it's not and we get a multitude of phones that we can choose from to suit out wants/needs.
That could actually make sense if the stock Nexus was blazing fast, but it isn't.

Furthermore, a jailbroken iPhone is as fast as a non-jailbroken iPhone.
 

Red Storm

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That could actually make sense if the stock Nexus was blazing fast, but it isn't.

Furthermore, a jailbroken iPhone is as fast as a non-jailbroken iPhone.

I disagree, I've had three iPhones (two 4's, one 3G) and every time I would jailbreak one, my phone became more unstable.

I don't get the S3 vs i5 debate. They are pretty different phones, running pretty different operating systems.
 

Red Storm

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Stability and speed are two different things.

App freezing, OS crashing are all things that effect speed.

For the record, I think there's a clear difference between smoothness and speed. My iPhones (with no jailbreak) have always been smooth for the most part (animations, scrolling, etc.), but it's not faster.
 

bearxor

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Have you ever used one with stock JB?

I'm just going to say that going from an iPhone 4 to a Galaxy Nexus with JB (straight to JB, not ICS then JB) I didn't start using it and say 'Wow, this is really fast.'

Going from the Nexus to a iPhone 5, in my head I was like 'Wow, this is really fast!'

Now it could be that I hadn't used Android as a daily driver and so didn't have 24/7 experience with one. When I use the Nexus next to my RAZR on ICS, it doesn't feel that much faster or smoother.

But I was immediately able to pick up a iPhone 5 and think 'Holy hell, this blows away the iPhone 4 and the Nexus.' Pages are rendering superfast and applications launch really quickly. In fact, Jailbreaking might no longer be an issue for me. I really relied on BiteSMS's Quick Reply feature because the time it would take to switch to the SMS app was in the range of 5-7 seconds. The Quick Reply drop down took like 2 or 3. Now, if I get a text message, I'm in the SMS app ready to reply in about 1-2 seconds. It's just about eliminated the issue for me (though Quick Reply is a really nice feature and I like having date/time stamps for every SMS always visible.) And now that I'm on a tiered plan and have Facetime over Cellular and hotspot access, I'm not really missing a jailbreak at all.

Edit: I've also stopped using my iPad for everything because the phone feels way faster than the iPad.
 
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NaOH

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The 4 is a 2+yr old device. Try the iPhone 5, it's blazing.

I have tried it, I was commenting on the previous poster who said all those devices were faster than the SGS3. I agree that the 4S and 5 are faster than the 4 without question.
 

Phanuel

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The 3D maps are a fantastic time waster. But I still don't entirely trust the search results when I want to find something near me. Couldn't even find the 2 Home Depots near my work with any degree of reliability.

Edit: Or what it seems to be doing is finding either the Home Depot itself or an entry for The Home Depot Food Stand out front of it... :/ Rerunning the search just alternates the two results.
 
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