Galaxy SIII or Note II?

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ultimatebob

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I voted Galaxy SIII, but then I think that 4 1/2 inches is the ideal size for a phone screen. Anything larger than that seems more like a tablet to me.

Besides, there should be better phones out there five months from now.
 

you2

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There will always be a better phone in 5 months Undoutedly the note 3 will have 1080p.

Having said that the note is a unique phone with the stylus. I have to admit it is a bit larger than I want but if it has good reception I'll probably bite due the rest so far being stellar (loud speaker; high quality audio; fantastic battery life, sd slot, ...)
 

iGas

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Note 2.

The thing about big screen devices is that they're only big for that first day or two. After that, they're normal sized and everything else on the market is too small.

I have a GS3, and it's dwarfed by a Note 2. And now I want a Note 2.
I have to agree.

I have the GS3 at the moment, but I will get the Note 2 once I'm back from my travel.

Oops, I click the wrong thing...I meant to click Note 2 in the poll.
 

Chocu1a

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I have to agree.

I have the GS3 at the moment, but I will get the Note 2 once I'm back from my travel.

Oops, I click the wrong thing...I meant to click Note 2 in the poll.

Yeah. The "big" goes away pretty fast. I went from an iPhone to a Charge to a Galaxy Nexus to a Galaxy S3. Each time I was initially wowed by the screen size. It goes away after a week.
 

Deeko

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I would go GS3 over the Note without a second thought and never regret the decision. There are those who can tolerate giant screens and those who can't. People in the former camp that say the latter just need to try them and get used to them are wrong. I mean, in my eyes, even the GS3 is way too big.
 

SandEagle

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Yeah. The "big" goes away pretty fast. I went from an iPhone to a Charge to a Galaxy Nexus to a Galaxy S3. Each time I was initially wowed by the screen size. It goes away after a week.


agreed. i kept reading about how big and awkward it is, but after spending time with it at the store, i loved it and got over that 'big' real quick. i'll have to find a good holster and see how 'big' it looks then
 

snikt

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I got my Note 2 a few days ago and I love it. I'm still adjusting to the size, coming from an S2. I still use my S2 intermittently because I haven't completely transferred my files, Calendar data, etc. But when I'm on my S2, I almost kind of hate being on such a small screen after using my Note 2. lol
 

Chiropteran

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I would go GS3 over the Note without a second thought and never regret the decision. There are those who can tolerate giant screens and those who can't. People in the former camp that say the latter just need to try them and get used to them are wrong. I mean, in my eyes, even the GS3 is way too big.

How can you handle using a desktop PC, presumably with a 20"+ display, if a 5.5" phone display is too extreme for you?

Not to mention, sounds like kind of a silly argument you are trying to make- correct me if I am misrepresenting your opinion, but you are basically arguing that it just sucks because you don't like the idea of the phone, as you admit yourself you have never tried it and never will. You aren't really the kind of person who should be giving advice to others. It's like hey, you should make your decision based on what this guy said, who has never touched the product in question. Yeah...
 

Deeko

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How can you handle using a desktop PC, presumably with a 20"+ display, if a 5.5" phone display is too extreme for you?

Not to mention, sounds like kind of a silly argument you are trying to make- correct me if I am misrepresenting your opinion, but you are basically arguing that it just sucks because you don't like the idea of the phone, as you admit yourself you have never tried it and never will. You aren't really the kind of person who should be giving advice to others. It's like hey, you should make your decision based on what this guy said, who has never touched the product in question. Yeah...

Haha I don't hold a desktop computer in one hand while I use it, what kind of comparison is that?

My advice makes perfect sense. I don't need to use it to know I wouldn't like it. I've owned two 4.3" phones and I am typing this post in a 4.5" phone - I thought all of them were too big. I've not owned, but have used, the GS3 and the original Note, and found them to be WAY too big. Do you think that somehow, the even larger Note 2 will buck that trend and fit in my hand? Math (both geometry and probability) disagree with you.

Like I said. The big screen aficionados don't get it. Some of us just don't like giant screens, and never will. No level of insults on a forum will change that.
 

Chiropteran

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I guess I assume when someone comes asking for advice, they are looking for objective opinions. The opinion of someone who made up their mind without even looking at the product in question isn't a very valuable opinion, just my opinion.

Haha I don't hold a desktop computer in one hand while I use it, what kind of comparison is that?

Who says you have to hold and use the Note II the exact same way you hold and use a smaller phone? Just because it is different doesn't mean it's worse.
 

Deeko

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I guess I assume when someone comes asking for advice, they are looking for objective opinions. The opinion of someone who made up their mind without even looking at the product in question isn't a very valuable opinion, just my opinion.

Your preference on phone size is a purely subjective issue. Remember in my first post when I said the big phone people were going to come down from on high and chastise me for having a different opinion than them, and that they'd be wrong? You're proving my point. You're not wrong for liking bigger screens. You're wrong for thinking I can't have my own opinion that differs from yours.

Who says you have to hold and use the Note II the exact same way you hold and use a smaller phone? Just because it is different doesn't mean it's worse.

I guess it didn't occur to you that I may want to hold and use my phone with one hand, and that that influences my purchasing decisions? I want a device that conforms to my needs, I don't want to conform my needs to the device. And please read my posts again - I did not say the Note 2 was worse. I said I wouldn't buy it because it's too big for me. Why is that so hard to understand? I'm not insulting it, I'm not saying it's a bad device. I'm saying that, regardless of how good a device it is, I won't buy it because it's too big for me, and no, I don't need to use it to verify that. If the smaller Note was too big for me, why would the Note II not be? Pretty simple logic if you ask me.
 

Chiropteran

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If the smaller Note was too big for me, why would the Note II not be? Pretty simple logic if you ask me.

Well for one, the "smaller note" as you call it is actually a larger phone than the Note II. See what happens when you make assumptions about a product without even looking at it?

But I really was getting at, the same reason why your computer isn't too big for you even though the "smaller note" was. Because you may be able to use the Note 2 *differently*. Of course if you never even look at the product and fail to even understand the basic aspects of it before passing out advice to other users, you don't give it a chance.

I'm not knocking you for that, I won't bother giving the iPhone 5 a chance for various reasons, but I am also not going to go out and hand out advice against buying one simply because I really have no expertise on it.
 

Deeko

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Well for one, the "smaller note" as you call it is actually a larger phone than the Note II. See what happens when you make assumptions about a product without even looking at it?

It is smaller in some dimensions, but not all. And when it comes to usability, the physical size of the screen matters as much as the chassis. The distance I need to reach my thumb can be longer even if the case is smaller, because I don't have to reach across the bezel on the opposite side...but I do need to reach the screen. And again - if I said the Note was way too big, if the Note 2 has a larger screen and an ever so slightly smaller case, it stands to reason that it will still be way too big. I don't know why you're trying to argue with this. I even said my 4.5" phone is too big. There is literally a 0% chance that I would not consider the Note 2 too big. Why is that so difficult to understand?

But I really was getting at, the same reason why your computer isn't too big for you even though the "smaller note" was. Because you may be able to use the Note 2 *differently*. Of course if you never even look at the product and fail to even understand the basic aspects of it before passing out advice to other users, you don't give it a chance.

Again...I've used the Note. The Note 2 is a newer version of the Note. They aren't as different as you seem to think. And I already have a 7" tablet for "using differently" as you put it, which eliminates that aspect of it.

I'm not knocking you for that, I won't bother giving the iPhone 5 a chance for various reasons, but I am also not going to go out and hand out advice against buying one simply because I really have no expertise on it.

He asked for our opinion and I gave it. Believe it or not I have used many smartphones and tablets. More than most people. In fact, unlike most people on this forum, I don't have inbuilt biases towards certain products - at home I own (and regularly use) products running Android (tablets, Galaxy S), iOS (iPod Touch), bbOS (Bold 9900), and Windows Phone (Lumia 900/920). I'm a lot more familiar with different systems and form factors than you seem to think.

This argument is going nowhere and as such I will no longer be replying to you on the topic. This is very simple. It's too big for me. I don't need to use it to know that, because I've used devices virtually the exact same size and thought the same. I've used devices a good deal smaller and thought the same. He asked for our opinion, and I gave mine. If it makes you feel better I can even go to a store on my lunch break and play with one (for the record, I was in an AT&T store yesterday and DID see it, even if I didn't use it), but I can assure you, with absolute certainty, that that would not change my opinion.
 

Chiropteran

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I just find it mind-boggling that you even admit yourself you use a 7" tablet, but somehow you can't figure out how to comfortably use a 5.5" screen phone. But since you are done, I'm done too.


Anyway, responding to the thread in general, I love the Note 2 because I can use it to replace a tablet, while also having phone capability built in. The size is perfect, because the main reason I don't carry around a 7" tablet is because it doesn't fit into a normal sized pocket, while the Note 2 fits fine even with protective case.

For normal use as a phone, it's smaller than any normal non-cellular phone so I don't see a problem there- I certainly wouldn't say it requires two hands to use, that is absurd. I use bluetooth built into my car for most calls, but holding the note up to my ear is certainly not any more strenuous than holding any regular phone handset.

My one complaint about the phone is the useless junk ware that t-mobile or whatever cellular provider you use installs on it, but it's not a big deal, and it's a problem held in common by the SIII, so not really a count against the Note 2 specifically.
 

Deeko

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I just find it mind-boggling that you even admit yourself you use a 7" tablet, but somehow you can't figure out how to comfortably use a 5.5" screen phone. But since you are done, I'm done too.

Really? That's mind boggling? One is a phone, one is a tablet. They are different devices with different purposes. As you said yourself, you use a tablet differently than you do a phone, just like you use a computer monitor differently. I don't type a lot of text messages or emails on my 7" tablet because it would be miserable, and I most certainly don't do anything one handed. With the exception of basic browsing/consumption there is nothing that I do on both my phone and my tablet, so it wouldn't make sense for me to try to combine them into one device that isn't as good at either purpose.

Seriously, this is a very simple concept, the fact that you find it "mind boggling" is, well, "mind boggling".
 

Pia

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My phone is a Note. If I had to buy a new phone, I would consider the Note II and the Nexus 4; GS3 would not be on the list.
 

Cobalt

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Note 2.

The thing about big screen devices is that they're only big for that first day or two. After that, they're normal sized and everything else on the market is too small.

I have a GS3, and it's dwarfed by a Note 2. And now I want a Note 2.

This. Been using my Note 2 since launch and my One X is now my work phone. When I use that it feels tiny by comparison. My Note 2 is rooted and flashed the Perseus Kernel for a mild OC and UV and it's perfect.
 

kmmatney

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I was in Singapore last week, and played around with a Note II, and thought it was fantastic. I've been using iPhones for the last 3.5 years, and prefer iOS over Android (my wife has an Android EVO V 4G phone with ICS), however I really want a bigger screen, and the iPhone 5 just doesn't cut it. Apple should have come out with an "iPhone Huge" rather than the iPad mini. I played around with the GS3 as well, but it's hard to go with anything smaller once you've used a Note II.

A guy I was working with in Singapore upgraded from a Note I to a GS3 (gave the Note I to his wife) but regrets it somewhat. He likes the speed of the GS3, but again, you can't truly make up for the larger screen.

I'm really tempted to sell off my iPhonne 4S and pay to get a Note II.
 

Chiropteran

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Really? That's mind boggling? One is a phone, one is a tablet. They are different devices with different purposes. As you said yourself, you use a tablet differently than you do a phone, just like you use a computer monitor differently. I don't type a lot of text messages or emails on my 7" tablet because it would be miserable, and I most certainly don't do anything one handed. With the exception of basic browsing/consumption there is nothing that I do on both my phone and my tablet, so it wouldn't make sense for me to try to combine them into one device that isn't as good at either purpose.

Seriously, this is a very simple concept, the fact that you find it "mind boggling" is, well, "mind boggling".

Do you ever use a phone like http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/60/Cisco7960G.jpg ?

It's just mind-boggling to me that a tiny 5.5" screen is considered too big to use as a phone when people have been use headsets much larger for over a hundred years. It's mind boggling that you consider typing a txt message miserable on a larger device. The larger the screen the easier it is to hit the desired keys, I really am at a loss as to how it is harder to type on a 7" screen keyboard compared to a 4" screen keyboard. And further, I don't understand how you are using your phone if you need two hands to hold it up to your ear. Maybe you could post a picture of yourself during a phone call, illustrating your need to hold your phone with both hands, so I can understand what you are trying to say.
 

Yongsta

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I went from an iPhone 4s to the Note 2 and at first it felt huge but after 2 days, it feels normal now. The iPhone 4s and my friends iPhone 5 feel like little toys when I hold them now.
 

Jocelyn84

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Do you ever use a phone like http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/60/Cisco7960G.jpg ?

It's just mind-boggling to me that a tiny 5.5" screen is considered too big to use as a phone when people have been use headsets much larger for over a hundred years. It's mind boggling that you consider typing a txt message miserable on a larger device. The larger the screen the easier it is to hit the desired keys, I really am at a loss as to how it is harder to type on a 7" screen keyboard compared to a 4" screen keyboard. And further, I don't understand how you are using your phone if you need two hands to hold it up to your ear. Maybe you could post a picture of yourself during a phone call, illustrating your need to hold your phone with both hands, so I can understand what you are trying to say.

Heh the same people (not you) said the exact same thing about the 4.3" Evo 4G a little over 2 two years ago and just about everyone of them is rockin a 4" iphone or a 4.8" android device today. Your always going to have people who accept the new idea, size in this case, and those who don't, but you and I both know that they'll be using 5"+ phones within a year or two.This is just the natural progression of how things work aka how what's "normal" changes over time.

As Kmmatney mentioned above, and I have a lot of friends who would agree, Apple should have made an iphone huge (lol) instead of an ipad mini.

Oh and btw, I <3 my Galaxy Note II
 
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Deeko

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Seriously? This is your retort? I keep telling myself I'm going to stop replying to your inane nonsense, but it's just so ridiculous I can't help myself. Yes, I use a phone like that, just like I use a desktop monitor. I use them stationary. On my desktop. I don't put them in my pocket. I don't hold them in one hand. I don't type emails on them.

It's just mind-boggling to me that a tiny 5.5" screen is considered too big to use as a phone when people have been use headsets much larger for over a hundred years. It's mind boggling that you consider typing a txt message miserable on a larger device. The larger the screen the easier it is to hit the desired keys, I really am at a loss as to how it is harder to type on a 7" screen keyboard compared to a 4" screen keyboard. And further, I don't understand how you are using your phone if you need two hands to hold it up to your ear. Maybe you could post a picture of yourself during a phone call, illustrating your need to hold your phone with both hands, so I can understand what you are trying to say.

And those larger, wired handsets weren't portable devices that went in your pocket. You seem to forget that over the course of those hundred years, until about 2005, phones kept getting smaller and smaller - and that was considered a good thing.

Again, you are not really reading what I'm saying. Of course I can type two handed on a screen the size of the note. However, more often than not, I'm operating my phone with one hand. And no - I cannot do that on a Note/2. You can say "well it's a different device, use it with two hands!" I don't want to. This is why I said, many posts ago, that this is a subjective issue - I prefer to use my phone one way, and I am perfectly entitled to that opinion. No amount of inane nonsense on a forum is going to change that, and as such, my preference is for a smaller device. Where did I say or insinuate that I needed two hands to hold it up to my ear? Now you are just putting words in my mouth, which is quite disingenuous.

Look - here is a picture of my Lumia 920. Note that the 920 has a 4.5" screen, not a 5.5" screen. Also note that my thumb barely reaches the Q - and this is not a comfortable position, the phone is shifted in my hand to reach. From this position I wouldn't be able to reach back to the other corner (the enter key / period) without shifting again. And I certainly could not reach the top of the screen from this grip - which is necessary on an Android phone to get to the notification bar. And, remember, this is on a smaller device than the Note. If I consider this phone to be on the verge of being too large and uncomfortable to use, why do you think I'd be ok with one that's even bigger?



Seriously - if this continues to boggle your mind, I don't know what to tell you. This is a very, very simple concept. Some people prefer smaller devices. Some people prefer to use their phone with one hand. Some people don't think bigger is better. Others disagree - and that's great. They can get and enjoy something like the Note. Why can't you just accept that I have different preferences from you and move on with your life?
 

Deeko

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Heh the same people (not you) said the exact same thing about the 4.3" Evo 4G a little over 2 two years ago and just about everyone of them is rockin a 4" iphone or a 4.8" android device today. Your always going to have people who accept the new idea, size in this case, and those who don't, but you and I both know that they'll be using 5"+ phones within a year or two.This is just the natural progression of how things work aka how what's "normal" changes over time.

I said it when the 4.3" phones came out, and I still stand by that. I still think 4.3" phones are a bit too big. And I owned the first one - I had the HD2, I've owned the Lumia 900, and I now own the Lumia 920 (which I'm strongly considering exchanging for the HTC 8x, solely due to the smaller screen size)

The thing is - I DO still prefer the smaller devices. I still think the 4" 1.67 aspect ratio device like the original Galaxy S is the sweet spot. If the 4" HTC 8s or Galaxy S3 Mini had the same high end specs as their big brothers, I would buy it, no questions asked. You act like those people are changing their minds...many of them aren't, they just aren't given the option.

edit: in fact, I would go even smaller, if it had a hardware keyboard. In my opinion, these are the two greatest form factors a smartphone has ever had:

3.7" screen w/ horizontal keyboard:


4.1" screen w/ vertical slider:
 
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