That is simply mind boggling.Like I said. The big screen aficionados don't get it. Some of us just don't like giant screens, and never will. No level of insults on a forum will change that.
That is simply mind boggling.Like I said. The big screen aficionados don't get it. Some of us just don't like giant screens, and never will. No level of insults on a forum will change that.
Where did I say or insinuate that I needed two hands to hold it up to my ear? Now you are just putting words in my mouth, which is quite disingenuous.
Deeko said:I guess it didn't occur to you that I may want to hold and use my phone with one hand, and that that influences my purchasing decisions?
Deeko said:Really? That's mind boggling? One is a phone, one is a tablet. They are different devices with different purposes. As you said yourself, you use a tablet differently than you do a phone, just like you use a computer monitor differently. I don't type a lot of text messages or emails on my 7" tablet because it would be miserable, and I most certainly don't do anything one handed. With the exception of basic browsing/consumption there is nothing that I do on both my phone and my tablet, so it wouldn't make sense for me to try to combine them into one device that isn't as good at either purpose.
I said it when the 4.3" phones came out, and I still stand by that. I still think 4.3" phones are a bit too big. And I owned the first one - I had the HD2, I've owned the Lumia 900, and I now own the Lumia 920 (which I'm strongly considering exchanging for the HTC 8x, solely due to the smaller screen size)
The thing is - I DO still prefer the smaller devices. I still think the 4" 1.67 aspect ratio device like the original Galaxy S is the sweet spot. If the 4" HTC 8s or Galaxy S3 Mini had the same high end specs as their big brothers, I would buy it, no questions asked. You act like those people are changing their minds...many of them aren't, they just aren't given the option.
edit: in fact, I would go even smaller, if it had a hardware keyboard. In my opinion, these are the two greatest form factors a smartphone has ever had
So true.The thing about big screen devices is that they're only big for that first day or two. After that, they're normal sized and everything else on the market is too small.
I love bigger phones myself and I do think 5.5 is probably the limit of these super sized phones.
I don't get what all the fuss in this thread is about. Why are some trying so hard to convince everyone else they're satisfied with a smaller screen? That should take about a sentence to state, then move on. We get it, you don't want a Note 2 and are happier with a smaller screen. Great! What's the big argument then? Others of us like the Note 2 and don't give a flying rat's ass that someone else prefers something smaller. So get something smaller and be happy with it.
I didn't mean everyone and sure, I'll agree there's a niche group of people out there that want smaller phones. I was referring to my relatives, co-workers, friends, and acquaintances who thought the Evo 4G was ridiculous in size two years ago. Roughly 90% of those same people own a 4.7"-.4.8" device, while the other 10% have an iphone 5.
My original point was that there is a big pool of people and a lot of them laugh or mock the new thing only to later move on to something very similar. Was I generalizing? Sure. Does that encompass everyone out there? Of course not, but that is clearly who I was targeting with my statement.
Lastly, you mentioned a 4" or 3.7" with keyboard. I could be wrong, but if we were having this conversation 2+ years ago, I think that you'd be completely against a 4" sized iphone despite probably being okay with that size now.
Nope, not at all. Here is a refresher:
Where you directly imply that you can't use the Note 2 with one hand. To me, using a phone is largely defined by talking on it, as that is the whole purpose of the device.
I can see where this is going, you are going to say "using the phone" actually means typing an email, not talking on it.
I guess just comes down to your preference to type one handed, which I have trouble picturing. I can't think of any situation where trying to type on a phone one-handed would be anything but miserable compared to the ease of typing with a full hand while holding the phone with another. do you text while driving a lot or something? I just can't picture a situation where having your other hand free is so important that you would sacrifice typing speed to do it. Are you walking around opening doors and moving things around while you type? You must have amazing coordination at least.
Stop. Just stop. Now not only are you putting words in my mouth, you're lying about it.
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I explicitly said typing, over and over, and even posted a picture demonstrating that. Don't even bother with that nonsense.
I did not mentioned talking on the phone until this post, in response to you
You consider the primary purpose of a smartphone to be talking on it? Please. That's absurd.
Revisionist historian much? You posted that pic and explanation AFTER the post in question where I asked you why you needed 2 hands to use your phone.
Yeah alright, I guess it was absurd to think that maybe using a phone tended to involve talking on it. Since you can better handle email and such with a PDA or tablet if you don't actually ever talk on the phone, it makes perfect sense to buy a phone and never talk on it.
You were the one talking about how a phone has advantages in some purposes and a tablet in others and you didn't feel the need to mix the two. Is it not the advantage of a phone that you can actually talk on it and make calls? You even now admit that typing on a larger screen with two hands is easier, so I am really at a loss as to what the phone's advantages are if you don't even use it to talk on.
Is that it? Your primary use of a smartphone is to entertain yourself while eating, watching TV, or walking your dog? You could have just said this in the first place, but it still sounds like a silly and constructed argument. I use my note 2 just fine while watching TV. I tend to use 2 hands to eat, because I like to cut my food, and I try to keep my eye on my dog while I walk him because I don't want him bothering joggers or other dogs when they walk past us.
Though, I play with my note 2 while eating all the time, and I will pull it out and use it if I have a strong need while walking the dog, and if I wanted to watch TV and use my phone simultaneously it's really not hard to set the remote down. Are you really unable to stop flipping through channels while you simultaneously write a txt or email on your phone? I just have a tough time picturing it, and how you could possibly focus on both activities at the same time.
Seriously? This is your retort? I keep telling myself I'm going to stop replying to your inane nonsense, but it's just so ridiculous I can't help myself. Yes, I use a phone like that, just like I use a desktop monitor. I use them stationary. On my desktop. I don't put them in my pocket. I don't hold them in one hand. I don't type emails on them.
And those larger, wired handsets weren't portable devices that went in your pocket. You seem to forget that over the course of those hundred years, until about 2005, phones kept getting smaller and smaller - and that was considered a good thing.
Again, you are not really reading what I'm saying. Of course I can type two handed on a screen the size of the note. However, more often than not, I'm operating my phone with one hand. And no - I cannot do that on a Note/2. You can say "well it's a different device, use it with two hands!" I don't want to. This is why I said, many posts ago, that this is a subjective issue - I prefer to use my phone one way, and I am perfectly entitled to that opinion. No amount of inane nonsense on a forum is going to change that, and as such, my preference is for a smaller device. Where did I say or insinuate that I needed two hands to hold it up to my ear? Now you are just putting words in my mouth, which is quite disingenuous.
Look - here is a picture of my Lumia 920. Note that the 920 has a 4.5" screen, not a 5.5" screen. Also note that my thumb barely reaches the Q - and this is not a comfortable position, the phone is shifted in my hand to reach. From this position I wouldn't be able to reach back to the other corner (the enter key / period) without shifting again. And I certainly could not reach the top of the screen from this grip - which is necessary on an Android phone to get to the notification bar. And, remember, this is on a smaller device than the Note. If I consider this phone to be on the verge of being too large and uncomfortable to use, why do you think I'd be ok with one that's even bigger?
Seriously - if this continues to boggle your mind, I don't know what to tell you. This is a very, very simple concept. Some people prefer smaller devices. Some people prefer to use their phone with one hand. Some people don't think bigger is better. Others disagree - and that's great. They can get and enjoy something like the Note. Why can't you just accept that I have different preferences from you and move on with your life?
If you don't like large phones why did you get the Lumia 920? For a 4.5" phone it is extremely large, the Note 2 may be big at least it is mainly screen instead of tons of pointless bezel.
The 4.5" Lumia 920 is almost the exact same size as the 4.8" Galaxy S3 although the S3 is much thinner.
You cannot change it, no matter how many lies and insults you spit from behind your keyboard.
For those concerned about the size of the virtual keyboard on the Note 2 when texting, using the dial pad, etc., there are options. There is an option to enable "one-handed operation," which allows the keyboard to be reduced in size and moved from left to right or vice-versa. Now I don't know if this is native to TouchWiz or JB 4.1.1. Also, if you use a third-party keyboard, like SlideiT, you can resize the keyboard as you see fit, both in Portrait or Landscape.
Because I do try to be open minded. While I am adamant that smartphones are getting too large, I've been equally adamant that their cameras suck and are in dire need of improvement. The Lumia is certainly too big, but the camera is awesome. So I figured I'd try it. However, I bought it as an experiment to see if the size is worth the camera, and if I determine that it isn't, I will be swapping it out for the HTC 8x, which is considerably smaller. I've only had the phone for about 40 hours so I can't say I've made a decision yet, but I definitely do not like the size.
Like I said in one of my earlier posts, they're making it harder and harder to get a small phone if you want high end, which is a fact I find unfortunate.
That's the thing - I said exactly what you did, with reversed stances. It's the strange people that can't accept my opinion is different than theirs that are turning this into a "fuss".
Fine... except for this is a thread asking a choice between a 4.8" screen device and 5.5" and why they should choose between either, so I'd say it's the person arguing about their own preference for other smaller devices that's more out of line here. Just sayin'.
Same logic here, which is why I got the Note, but I do suspect the 4.5" class of phones might be significantly more convenient for me to carry. I haven't experienced any touchscreen sizes between 2.75" and 5.3".The 4.5" & 4.8" devices are just striking me as awkward now.
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Which brings me to the realization...At this point since I'm already struggling to use it one handed, if I'm committing to a two handed experience, why not go all in and just move up to the Note?
Perhaps it's that the device is .12" narrower than the 920 (which is about the same as the S3), but I have no problem one-handing my GNex. Top left corner presses *are* a pain, but typing (and thumb-swyping!) is easy... and I have small hands.I'm guessing the 4.3" of the Razr M is about the most ideal compromise of space and function in a current gen device.
The 4.5" & 4.8" devices are just striking me as awkward now. Too big for most people to do most functions one handed. I can't "thumb text" very well with my 4.5" Lumia 920. I've got decent size hands and can palm a basketball but stretching the to far top left corner of the screen just isn't happening without really sacraficing my grip on the device.