People hear "healthcare passed" and think "Ooooh..FREEBIES! YAY!" without having a damn clue what the reality is..or that they likely aren't going to benefit at all unless they are the tiny minority who were uninsurable before.
This.
Nobody actually knows what the bill is going to do.
We only know what we have been told, but since when has reality equalled promises when it comes to government legislation??
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub...pport_state_lawsuits_against_health_care_plan49% Support State Lawsuits Against Health Care Plan
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub...ood_of_america/right_direction_or_wrong_trackTwenty-six percent (26%) of U.S. voters say the country is heading in the right direction
^ That's about right given that Rasmussen is about 10% skewed to the political right across the board.
Prove it
If this holds up, I will have to accept that as a people Americans are too stupid to exist on our own. Not because the majority disagrees with me - I'm used to that - but because every reputable poll before it passed had major opposition. Also the revelations I've seen this week have all been about what we THOUGHT we were getting immediately, such as a ban on denial of coverage for pre-existing conditions on children. If we hate something, anything, being proposed, but immediately like it once it's forced down our throats, then we deserve whatever we get from D.C.
Republicans had a genuine opportunity to educate the public on what liberty, freedom, etc. actually mean; instead, they chose to take the path they did, creating an embarrassing display that likely alienated every American that has any sense of dignity. If you can't make your point without calling out shit like Hitler, you don't deserve a voice, imo.
What a damn shame.
You're just figuring this out? It's been obvious for years, frankly. We as a nation are headed off a financial cliff, and all the people can say is, "FASTER!!"
"The toplines tend to be a bit toward the Republican side of the spectrum, compared to the average of other polls. But if you factor that in they're pretty reliable. And the frequency that Rasmussen is able to turn them around -- because they're based on robocalls -- gives them added value in terms of teasing out trends. But the qualitative questions, in terms of their phrasing and so forth, are frequently skewed to give answers friendly toward GOP or conservative viewpoints. All of which is to say that his numbers are valuable. But they need to be read with that bias in mind."
Rasmussen was even a paid consultanat for the Bush 04 campaign.
The polling on health care was highly suspect. It's very important that you read the actual questions, because it's an issue that even working things slightly differently tremendously impacts the outcome. Even what question is asked first can influence later questions.
A lot of these polls used circumspect methodology. In addition, they tend to poll likely voters, and many of the people this legislation helps the most tend to be politically disenfranchised.
Put it all together and I basically don't believe a single poll I've seen, whether it shows reform is supported or not.
So his number are "pretty reliable", but let's ignore that because they're biased to the right! LMAO
Yeah, Mursilis, I'm just now figuring that out. I've known for a decade or more that as a country we are becoming children in search of a nanny state, but I had always hoped we would at least be smart children. The concept that after months of debate we know nothing about a 2,600 hundred page bill, but one day after it passes we suddenly "know what's in it", gives lie to that hope.
The American public, generally, has had a push away with one hand, bring toward with the other approach to government and government services for a long time. They want the services and money, but don't want to pay for it and complain that government is "too big". In that respect, it's no surprise that this health care bill is increasing in popularity.
Think about it.. how many people are upset when their congressional representative(s) bring home federal money and would vote that representative out of office for doing so? It's definitely not nearly a majority. Sometimes those same representatives, usually Republicans, then speak out against "pork barrel spending" but wouldn't dare give up any of theirs that's earmarked for their district. Democrats love pork barrel spending too, but that fits with their ideology, so while it's not good, it's at least consistent.
So, yes, we reap what we sow. The American people get exactly the government they want, every single election. It's not that they agree with their choices in elected representatives 100% of the time, it's just a matter of which issue is foremost in their minds when they're in the voting booth. They often forget that they get the whole package, not just one issue.
Folks,
This does not really change anything for the middle class. Healthcare has been going up about $1,100 per year for a family of 4. The hidden cost under our current system of treating uninsured people via the emergency room is a big part of that. Most uninsured do nothing in regards to preventative care, so their illness are in critical stages when they hit the ER room. What a few hundred dollars in medicines and testing could of prevented, becomes a $20K or more bill that insured people pay because the hospital and doctors jack the cost to cover their expenses. What is insane is that we are the only industrial country, up to this point that did not have universal coverage for everyone.
One final question to ask yourself. Do you really think that a private for profit Corporation is more concerned about your health, than its bottom line profits?
Jim
Folks,
This does not really change anything for the middle class. Healthcare has been going up about $1,100 per year for a family of 4. The hidden cost under our current system of treating uninsured people via the emergency room is a big part of that. Most uninsured do nothing in regards to preventative care, so their illness are in critical stages when they hit the ER room. What a few hundred dollars in medicines and testing could of prevented, becomes a $20K or more bill that insured people pay because the hospital and doctors jack the cost to cover their expenses. What is insane is that we are the only industrial country, up to this point that did not have universal coverage for everyone.
One final question to ask yourself. Do you really think that a private for profit Corporation is more concerned about your health, than its bottom line profits?
Jim