Gallup: Health care plan gains favor 49-40

[First]

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2010-03-23-health-poll-favorable_N.htm

WASHINGTON — More Americans now favor than oppose the health care overhaul that President Obama signed into law Tuesday, a USA TODAY/Gallup Poll finds — a notable turnaround from surveys before the vote that showed a plurality against the legislation.

By 49%-40%, those polled say it was "a good thing" rather than a bad one that Congress passed the bill. Half describe their reaction in positive terms — as "enthusiastic" or "pleased" — while about four in 10 describe it in negative ways, as "disappointed" or "angry."

The largest single group, 48%, calls the legislation "a good first step" that needs to be followed by more action. And 4% say the bill itself makes the most important changes needed in the nation's health care system.

Well, that was a quick turnaround. Republicans will surely gain seats in both chambers this November nonetheless, but Dems will very likely still hold slim majorities which means more liberzl agenduhs being passed.

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[Genx87]

Awesome a clear consensus.

 

[BurnItDwn]

It would have been nice if the bill had some balls and wasn't so watered down as to simply be an ineffective money pit that benefits the poor at the expense of the middle class... Something that removed lawyers and insurance companies from the equation would have been nice ..... ohh well .... just a pipedream I guess ...

 

[jpeyton]

Obama's poll numbers shot up as well.

More health care reforms and a public option should be on the way.

 

[woolfe9999]

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2010-03-23-health-poll-favorable_N.htm



Well, that was a quick turnaround. Republicans will surely gain seats in both chambers this November nonetheless, but Dems will very likely still hold slim majorities which means more liberzl agenduhs being passed.

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I already posted about this here:

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2060702&page=7

So you weren't first, First.

No need to delete the thread though. The topic is relevant enough for its own thread.

- wolf

 

[Lemon law]

It would have been nice if the bill had some balls and wasn't so watered down as to simply be an ineffective money pit that benefits the poor at the expense of the middle class... Something that removed lawyers and insurance companies from the equation would have been nice ..... ohh well .... just a pipedream I guess ...

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No, that good of a initial Harris poll result is awesome, there goes the GOP claim most people oppose it. Expect HC reform public support to increase in later polls. And a big reality check for the GOP.

But point granted, what we got in health care reform was far less than what we needed.
But still a first baby step that took at least 18 years to take. We could well get a public option and much more in the very near future.

 

[werepossum]

If this holds up, I will have to accept that as a people Americans are too stupid to exist on our own. Not because the majority disagrees with me - I'm used to that - but because every reputable poll before it passed had major opposition. Also the revelations I've seen this week have all been about what we THOUGHT we were getting immediately, such as a ban on denial of coverage for pre-existing conditions on children. If we hate something, anything, being proposed, but immediately like it once it's forced down our throats, then we deserve whatever we get from D.C.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

I'd be interested in the sample (as always with MSM driven polls). It also needs to be noted that the CBS poll still shows more opposition to the bill(46 to 42) and Bloomberg shows no change which shows support at 40%.

 

[senseamp]

I want to hear more Republicans go on record as supporting full repeal of this reform law.
This is going to be them in November:

 

[Lemon law]

The werepossin delusion in saying, "but because every reputable poll before it passed had major opposition ", is largely due to totally false and bogus republirat fear mongering.

Now that we have an actual bill, and the American people look at it, its not only not the end of the world that fearmongers said it would be, most of the actual provisions meet public approval. And worse yet for the GOP fearmongers, I am predicting public approval will rise far higher. Maybe up to 75%, about the size of the non GOP radical right part of the American electorate.

 

[woolfe9999]

If this holds up, I will have to accept that as a people Americans are too stupid to exist on our own. Not because the majority disagrees with me - I'm used to that - but because every reputable poll before it passed had major opposition. Also the revelations I've seen this week have all been about what we THOUGHT we were getting immediately, such as a ban on denial of coverage for pre-existing conditions on children. If we hate something, anything, being proposed, but immediately like it once it's forced down our throats, then we deserve whatever we get from D.C.

I don't think this poll is such big news, because I don't think it actually shows a large shift versus where opinion was in the weeks prior to the bill. I have said repeatedly that you have to look at how the question is asked. The NBC/WSJ pre-bill passage poll asked two questions. The first was whether the bill was a "good idea" or "bad idea." It fared poorly in that question, 36/50 if memory serves. However, the next question was should the bill be passed, or else scrapped and we keep the current system. That question yielded 46/45 in favor of passing the bill. This disparity reflects the fact that many people who are deeply disappointed with the bill still think it is better than the status quo.

This new gallup poll is worded similarly to the second question in the MSN/WSJ poll. It shows some bounce, but not a major sea change. The fact is, public opinion regarding this legislation was always more complicated, and never quite as negative, as has been assumed, nor has the legislation taken the massive bump in popularity which many on the left probably think it has.

- wolf

 

[Danube]

"Well, that was a quick turnaround".


That's part of Obama and media's new offensive to try and get people to like the plan they been trying to sell for a year and doing worse and worse (and Obama lying more egregiously). No doubt they want to keep jacking things into plan.

Rasmussen (best poll) has most people wanting their states to resist the ruse.

"Forty-nine percent (49&#37 of U.S. voters favor their state suing the federal government to fight the requirement in the new national health care plan that every American must obtain health insurance.

A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey of likely voters finds that 37% disagree and oppose their state suing to challenge that requirement. Fourteen percent (14%) are undecided."



http://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub...pport_state_lawsuits_against_health_care_plan

 

[TruePaige]

The werepossin delusion in saying, "but because every reputable poll before it passed had major opposition ", is largely due to totally false and bogus republirat fear mongering.

Now that we have an actual bill, and the American people look at it, its not only not the end of the world that fearmongers said it would be, most of the actual provisions meet public approval. And worse yet for the GOP fearmongers, I am predicting public approval will rise far higher. Maybe up to 75%, about the size of the non GOP radical right part of the American electorate.

This.

 

[Tristicus]

A majority of colonists didn't want to secede from Britain either at the time. Then they realized it was the best decision they could make.

 

[Lemon law]

There may be some validity to the woolfe9999 point, but I suspect, in the coming weeks and months, various polls will ask the questions in all kind of different ways, but at the end of the process, the contentions of GOP fear mongers that the majority of the American people oppose this health care reform law will take a complete drubbing. And polling results will be the definitive undeniable last word answer on the subject.

Some part of the GOP may choose to keep ignoring those polling numbers and keep up their efforts to promote the big lie, but enough of the more rational GOP leadership may wake up and smell the coffee.

Admittedly I am making a prediction and I could be wrong, only time will tell, only more final polling results will be the final word.

 

[EagleKeeper]

At present, the majority of the bill sound good because the true costs have been buried/hidden/pushed into the future.

 

[Carmen813]

Let's wait a few more weeks before we use our

 

[bamacre]

Crazy how Americans react to "propaganda..."

http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/03/20/health_care/index.html

http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/03/23/health_care/index.html

 

[Veramocor]

If this holds up, I will have to accept that as a people Americans are too stupid to exist on our own. Not because the majority disagrees with me - I'm used to that - but because every reputable poll before it passed had major opposition. Also the revelations I've seen this week have all been about what we THOUGHT we were getting immediately, such as a ban on denial of coverage for pre-existing conditions on children. If we hate something, anything, being proposed, but immediately like it once it's forced down our throats, then we deserve whatever we get from D.C.

American's love a winner.

 

[Carmen813]

The polling on health care was highly suspect. It's very important that you read the actual questions, because it's an issue that even working things slightly differently tremendously impacts the outcome. Even what question is asked first can influence later questions.

A lot of these polls used circumspect methodology. In addition, they tend to poll likely voters, and many of the people this legislation helps the most tend to be politically disenfranchised.

Put it all together and I basically don't believe a single poll I've seen, whether it shows reform is supported or not.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

Meh, whatever. I think at this point, I am going to just try to have an open mind and hope it works out for the best, even though I am very much against it in principle.

 

[shadow9d9]

If this holds up, I will have to accept that as a people Americans are too stupid to exist on our own. Not because the majority disagrees with me - I'm used to that - but because every reputable poll before it passed had major opposition. Also the revelations I've seen this week have all been about what we THOUGHT we were getting immediately, such as a ban on denial of coverage for pre-existing conditions on children. If we hate something, anything, being proposed, but immediately like it once it's forced down our throats, then we deserve whatever we get from D.C.

The last week there have been news articles everywhere showing what is in the bill and what effect it will have. Whenever people have been shown what the bill actually does, they like it.

 

[nobodyknows]

At present, the majority of the bill sound good because the true costs have been buried/hidden/pushed into the future.

A horse, a horse!! My kingdom for a horse!!!

 

[Mxylplyx]

I think this just proves that Americans, as a whole, are uninformed, finicky morons, who are easily seduced by cheap rhetoric thrown at them by foxnews and cheap political ads.

 

[ProfJohn]

The last week there have been news articles everywhere showing what is in the bill and what effect it will have. Whenever people have been shown what the bill actually does, they like it.

Nobody actually knows what the bill is going to do.

We only know what we have been told, but since when has reality equalled promises when it comes to government legislation??