Game 7: Lakers vs. Suns

[sadguy]

Originally posted by: Azndude2190

Originally posted by: sadguy

Originally posted by: dahunan
Kobe knew there was absolutely no way this team could win..

SO... since he has TONS of playoff experience.. Finals experience .. etc.. He gave the ball to his team mates constantly.. He tried to let them experience it..

Phil gave up on the team during halftime...

How many timeouts did he call in the 2nd half?

Kobe chose to stop playing. He didn't even try. That's inexcusable.

Why should he?His team sucked tonight and came out with no emotion.

Because that's what he's getting paid to do? A mvp candidate that won't even try driving to the hoop in the second half?

 

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: iamme

Originally posted by: Azndude2190

Originally posted by: sadguy

Originally posted by: dahunan
Kobe knew there was absolutely no way this team could win..

SO... since he has TONS of playoff experience.. Finals experience .. etc.. He gave the ball to his team mates constantly.. He tried to let them experience it..

Phil gave up on the team during halftime...

How many timeouts did he call in the 2nd half?

Kobe chose to stop playing. He didn't even try. That's inexcusable.

Why should he?His team sucked tonight and came out with no emotion.

he's a professional basketball player making multimillions of dollars per year. that's why he should. pay me 5% of his salary, and i'd be diving for every loose ball for 48 minutes.

Like Madsen

 

[XMan]

Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne

Originally posted by: XMan

Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
Unfortunately for the Suns, the Clippers have a much more well-rounded team. I fully expect the Clippers to wreck havok on the Suns.

2-2 in the regular season, plus Kurt Thomas will be back. Big helf defensively. I don't think you'll see much wreaking.

Oh yeah . . . "That was a royal ass-whipping . . . AGAIN!"

The way i see it, the 7th seed gave the 2nd seed a hell of a scare and almost knocked them out. Phoenix has shown that it has severe weaknesses that will no doubt be exploited by better, more experienced teams. The Lakers just weren't that team.

And that severe weakness is a defensive presence in the middle. Voila, Kurt Thomas.

And I wouldn't be counting on the Clippers to redeem LA if I were you . . . with the exception of Cassell they aren't exactly better or more experienced. The games they won against the Suns, they were able to dictate the tempo. I don't think they can do that consistently for seven games.

 

[Stojakapimp]

Well I guess Kobe just showed tonight why he won't be the MVP. Completely inexcusable. What a pathetic showing by the Lakers

 

[Azndude2190]

Its funny how you blame us fanboys that Kobe didnt do anything the 2nd half or what not and him being selfish...yet you haterz try to equally spin it around and make it seem like Kobe never gives it his all...he worked his a**off for six games and a half let alone a whole season(carrying this team on his back)...just plain and simple:2nd half they were getting blown out,the coach didnt seem into it,the players didnt seem into it....and honestly as a Laker fan and Kobe fan I wasnt into it...

 

[InlineFour]

i think kobe was being indirectly selfish. if he really wanted to get his team involved, he would have made more plays, made some crazy passes, etc., like he did in previous games. in the second half, he didn't even bother to touch the ball.

 

[sadguy]

Originally posted by: Azndude2190
Its funny how you blame us fanboys that Kobe didnt do anything the 2nd half or what not and him being selfish...yet you haterz try to equally spin it around and make it seem like Kobe never gives it his all...he worked his a**off for six games and a half let alone a whole season(carrying this team on his back)...just plain and simple:2nd half they were getting blown out,the coach didnt seem into it,the players didnt seem into it....and honestly as a Laker fan and Kobe fan I wasnt into it...

It's the biggest game of the season. At the very least, he could've tried driving the basket to draw fouls, but he chose to be a little baby.

 

[Azndude2190]

whatever dude

 

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: Azndude2190
Its funny how you blame us fanboys that Kobe didnt do anything the 2nd half or what not and him being selfish...yet you haterz try to equally spin it around and make it seem like Kobe never gives it his all...he worked his a**off for six games and a half let alone a whole season(carrying this team on his back)...just plain and simple:2nd half they were getting blown out,the coach didnt seem into it,the players didnt seem into it....and honestly as a Laker fan and Kobe fan I wasnt into it...

Exactly

Think about this

Nash goes out and he has Diaw and Barbosa to take his place.. He is barely MVP of his own team ..

When Kobe goes out his team - 95% of the time - LOSES BIG LEADS

 

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: sadguy

Originally posted by: Azndude2190
Its funny how you blame us fanboys that Kobe didnt do anything the 2nd half or what not and him being selfish...yet you haterz try to equally spin it around and make it seem like Kobe never gives it his all...he worked his a**off for six games and a half let alone a whole season(carrying this team on his back)...just plain and simple:2nd half they were getting blown out,the coach didnt seem into it,the players didnt seem into it....and honestly as a Laker fan and Kobe fan I wasnt into it...

It's the biggest game of the season. At the very least, he could've tried driving the basket to draw fouls, but he chose to be a little baby.

Answer some of my questions I asked you..

Did you see Phil getting upset with him and telling him to do anything differently.... did ya .. huh..

This was Phils doing from the beginning of the 2nd half

 

[sadguy]

Originally posted by: Azndude2190
whatever dude

I guess you won't even disagree with what I just said. He didn't even try driving to the hoop. mvp candidate?

 

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: sadguy

Originally posted by: Azndude2190
whatever dude

I guess you won't even disagree with what I just said. He didn't even try driving to the hoop. mvp candidate?

You are just trying to get people upset.. give it up.. it isn't working

 

[sadguy]

Originally posted by: dahunan

Originally posted by: sadguy

Originally posted by: Azndude2190
Its funny how you blame us fanboys that Kobe didnt do anything the 2nd half or what not and him being selfish...yet you haterz try to equally spin it around and make it seem like Kobe never gives it his all...he worked his a**off for six games and a half let alone a whole season(carrying this team on his back)...just plain and simple:2nd half they were getting blown out,the coach didnt seem into it,the players didnt seem into it....and honestly as a Laker fan and Kobe fan I wasnt into it...

It's the biggest game of the season. At the very least, he could've tried driving the basket to draw fouls, but he chose to be a little baby.

Answer some of my questions I asked you..

Did you see Phil getting upset with him and telling him to do anything differently.... did ya .. huh..

This was Phils doing from the beginning of the 2nd half

So Phil allowed the mvp candidate do nothing in second half? Both deserve to get criticized for it. Since when does a "mvp candidate" throw in the towel and not even try? In the biggest game of the season?

 

[Stojakapimp]

I would love to see a Laker fan look me in the eye and tell me that Kobe deserves to be the MVP after he tanks game 7 in the playoffs.

 

[InlineFour]

Originally posted by: sadguy

Originally posted by: dahunan

Originally posted by: sadguy

Originally posted by: Azndude2190
Its funny how you blame us fanboys that Kobe didnt do anything the 2nd half or what not and him being selfish...yet you haterz try to equally spin it around and make it seem like Kobe never gives it his all...he worked his a**off for six games and a half let alone a whole season(carrying this team on his back)...just plain and simple:2nd half they were getting blown out,the coach didnt seem into it,the players didnt seem into it....and honestly as a Laker fan and Kobe fan I wasnt into it...

It's the biggest game of the season. At the very least, he could've tried driving the basket to draw fouls, but he chose to be a little baby.

this is why i thought phil sat out kobe with 6mins left in the quarter. phil probably though kobe just wasn't in the game. as an mvp candidate, he should have played 'till the last second, especially in game 7.
Answer some of my questions I asked you..

Did you see Phil getting upset with him and telling him to do anything differently.... did ya .. huh..

This was Phils doing from the beginning of the 2nd half

So Phil allowed the mvp candidate do nothing in second half? Both deserve to get criticized for it. Since when does a "mvp candidate" throw in the towel and not even try? In the biggest game of the season?

 

[herkulease]

Originally posted by: DukeN
Kobe is a psycho and deserved this loss totally. You cannot change your philosophy overnight and expect to succeed.

Nash is the deserving MVP for he doesn't detract from his teammates the way Kobe does. Replace Kobe with Nash on the lakers and Odom probably makes AS game while George and Kwame have career years.

You on crack or something?

There is Nothing Nash, Kobe, even Jordan could do if Kwame, Odom and Devean george miss point blank shots. Its unexcuseable. Kwame is a pro basketball player. For guys that do this stuff day in and day out we should expect them to nail those at least 75% of the time. Personally I didn't expect him to hit 75%, just make 50%. He ended up going 2/10.

anyhow the lakers minus kobe made only 32% of their shots, while the suns minus nash made 63% of their shots.

 

[KLin]

Originally posted by: Stojakapimp
I would love to see a Laker fan look me in the eye and tell me that Kobe deserves to be the MVP after he tanks game 7 in the playoffs.

Kobe didn't tank, the rest of his team did.

 

[Stojakapimp]

Originally posted by: herkulease

Originally posted by: DukeN
Kobe is a psycho and deserved this loss totally. You cannot change your philosophy overnight and expect to succeed.

Nash is the deserving MVP for he doesn't detract from his teammates the way Kobe does. Replace Kobe with Nash on the lakers and Odom probably makes AS game while George and Kwame have career years.

You on crack or something?

There is Nothing Nash, Kobe, even Jordan could do if Kwame, Odom and Devean george miss point blank shots. Its unexcuseable. Kwame is a pro basketball player. For guys that do this stuff day in and day out we should expect them to nail those at least 75% of the time. Personally I didn't expect him to hit 75%, just make 50%. He ended up going 2/10.

anyhow the lakers minus kobe made only 32% of their shots, while the suns minus nash made 63% of their shots.

Then why did the lakers lose game 6? Those guys were shooting incredibly well.

And I'd be very interested to see how they would do if Nash were on their team. With Kobe, those guys mostly just post up and have to use hook shot moves, but Nash is better at creating dunk or easy layups.

 

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: InlineFour

Originally posted by: sadguy

Originally posted by: dahunan

Originally posted by: sadguy

Originally posted by: Azndude2190
Its funny how you blame us fanboys that Kobe didnt do anything the 2nd half or what not and him being selfish...yet you haterz try to equally spin it around and make it seem like Kobe never gives it his all...he worked his a**off for six games and a half let alone a whole season(carrying this team on his back)...just plain and simple:2nd half they were getting blown out,the coach didnt seem into it,the players didnt seem into it....and honestly as a Laker fan and Kobe fan I wasnt into it...

It's the biggest game of the season. At the very least, he could've tried driving the basket to draw fouls, but he chose to be a little baby.

this is why i thought phil sat out kobe with 6mins left in the quarter. phil probably though kobe just wasn't in the game. as an mvp candidate, he should have played 'till the last second, especially in game 7.
Answer some of my questions I asked you..

Did you see Phil getting upset with him and telling him to do anything differently.... did ya .. huh..

This was Phils doing from the beginning of the 2nd half

So Phil allowed the mvp candidate do nothing in second half? Both deserve to get criticized for it. Since when does a "mvp candidate" throw in the towel and not even try? In the biggest game of the season?

Throw in the towel? You can label it anything you want.. Too many cowards on this team.. that was the problem

IF you cannot see what a huge difference there is between Nash's team and Kobe's team then you are blind.. Kobe had ot do FAR MORE than Nash did this year ..

Did you see what a difference it made?

In 2nd half


PHX 61
LAL 45



In 1st half

PHX 60
LAL 45

 

[GalvanizedYankee]

If the Lakers were still in Minnesota I'd be rooten' for'em.

But L.A. fans near riot when they win a title=Go Suns


...Galvanized

 

[InlineFour]

Originally posted by: KLin

Originally posted by: Stojakapimp
I would love to see a Laker fan look me in the eye and tell me that Kobe deserves to be the MVP after he tanks game 7 in the playoffs.

Kobe didn't tank, the rest of his team did.

his lack of second half performance was questionable though.

 

[Azndude2190]

Originally posted by: sadguy

Originally posted by: Azndude2190
whatever dude

I guess you won't even disagree with what I just said. He didn't even try driving to the hoop. mvp candidate?

Yes I disagree with you I just didnt feel like backing up kobe when I know what this will get into.(Is Kobe MVP? arguement)

The fact that your magnifying and using what Kobe did 0.01% of this season to justify that Kobe is a baby is just stupid.I'll have you know that he is always the first Laker to arrive to pre-game practice and stays the longest.He always wants to play.And always wants to win.It was just a hopeless and disgusting situation to be in for a Laker player.

Edit:Add to the fact that Kobe Bryant is a human being just like us all.I'm sure there have been times where you thought trying wasnt going to get you anywhere. Keep the hating coming,I dont mind it,it's one of the reasons why I like Kobe Bryant...the fact that so many people hate him.

 

[KLin]

Originally posted by: Stojakapimp

Originally posted by: herkulease

Originally posted by: DukeN
Kobe is a psycho and deserved this loss totally. You cannot change your philosophy overnight and expect to succeed.

Nash is the deserving MVP for he doesn't detract from his teammates the way Kobe does. Replace Kobe with Nash on the lakers and Odom probably makes AS game while George and Kwame have career years.

You on crack or something?

There is Nothing Nash, Kobe, even Jordan could do if Kwame, Odom and Devean george miss point blank shots. Its unexcuseable. Kwame is a pro basketball player. For guys that do this stuff day in and day out we should expect them to nail those at least 75% of the time. Personally I didn't expect him to hit 75%, just make 50%. He ended up going 2/10.

anyhow the lakers minus kobe made only 32% of their shots, while the suns minus nash made 63% of their shots.

Then why did the lakers lose game 6? Those guys were shooting incredibly well.

And I'd be very interested to see how they would do if Nash were on their team. With Kobe, those guys mostly just post up and have to use hook shot moves, but Nash is better at creating dunk or easy layups.

The Lakers lost because they didn't shoot well from the free throw line. Suns were 25-29, while the Lakers were only 15-22.

 

[Stojakapimp]

Kobe doesn't care about the game. He cares about himself and his personal glory.

 

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: Stojakapimp

Originally posted by: herkulease

Originally posted by: DukeN
Kobe is a psycho and deserved this loss totally. You cannot change your philosophy overnight and expect to succeed.

Nash is the deserving MVP for he doesn't detract from his teammates the way Kobe does. Replace Kobe with Nash on the lakers and Odom probably makes AS game while George and Kwame have career years.

You on crack or something?

There is Nothing Nash, Kobe, even Jordan could do if Kwame, Odom and Devean george miss point blank shots. Its unexcuseable. Kwame is a pro basketball player. For guys that do this stuff day in and day out we should expect them to nail those at least 75% of the time. Personally I didn't expect him to hit 75%, just make 50%. He ended up going 2/10.

anyhow the lakers minus kobe made only 32% of their shots, while the suns minus nash made 63% of their shots.

Then why did the lakers lose game 6? Those guys were shooting incredibly well.

And I'd be very interested to see how they would do if Nash were on their team. With Kobe, those guys mostly just post up and have to use hook shot moves, but Nash is better at creating dunk or easy layups.

I would love to see Kwame catch a pass from ANYONE .. remind yourself.. you are a Kobe hater.. you have to be in order to root for the Kings... so.. you are biased