Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Well just got back from the bar, didn't see most of the game but didn't have to: Congratulations PHO on a monumental upset, only the 8th time in history a team has come back from 3-1.
And for Kobe Cryant: Suck on it MVP (Major Vanishing Performance)!!!!!! Phoenix has a date with the Clips!!!!! That is all, back to your regularly scheduled Laker fanboism.
Originally posted by: herkulease
Originally posted by: dahunan
Shows how little you followed it and now you spread your ignorance to others
Show me where it says he cheated on her mutliple times.. If you can then I will apologize to you.
maybe he's refering to this?
link
and next page.
page 50 even has kobe cell number? but I"m sure he disconnected it.
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Well just got back from the bar, didn't see most of the game but didn't have to: Congratulations PHO on a monumental upset, only the 8th time in history a team has come back from 3-1.
And for Kobe Cryant: Suck on it MVP (Major Vanishing Performance)!!!!!! Phoenix has a date with the Clips!!!!! That is all, back to your regularly scheduled Laker fanboism.
Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
It's quite clear that Kobe's supporting cast is clearly to blame for the Laker loss. They sorely need a point guard and some better perimeter defenders (not to mention a real center). That being said, they did an amazing job and nearly knocked off the second seeded team in the West. no small feat mind you.
And Kobe has 3 rings already, how many does Nash have? When players look back on their careers it's the rings that matter the most, not MVP trophies. So Nash can keep all of his MVP's, because he will never win a championship with Phoenix and their run-and-gun (aka play no defense) style of play. You have to have solid defense to win championships, and Phoenix has chosen to neglect that year after year and are confronted with the same results.
Originally posted by: IAteYourMother
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Well just got back from the bar, didn't see most of the game but didn't have to: Congratulations PHO on a monumental upset, only the 8th time in history a team has come back from 3-1.
And for Kobe Cryant: Suck on it MVP (Major Vanishing Performance)!!!!!! Phoenix has a date with the Clips!!!!! That is all, back to your regularly scheduled Laker fanboism.
kobe didn't exactly vanish :roll:
Originally posted by: KMFJD
Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
It's quite clear that Kobe's supporting cast is clearly to blame for the Laker loss. They sorely need a point guard and some better perimeter defenders (not to mention a real center). That being said, they did an amazing job and nearly knocked off the second seeded team in the West. no small feat mind you.
And Kobe has 3 rings already, how many does Nash have? When players look back on their careers it's the rings that matter the most, not MVP trophies. So Nash can keep all of his MVP's, because he will never win a championship with Phoenix and their run-and-gun (aka play no defense) style of play. You have to have solid defense to win championships, and Phoenix has chosen to neglect that year after year and are confronted with the same results.
How many rings would Kobe have without Shaq on his team.....
Originally posted by: sadguy
Originally posted by: KMFJD
Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
It's quite clear that Kobe's supporting cast is clearly to blame for the Laker loss. They sorely need a point guard and some better perimeter defenders (not to mention a real center). That being said, they did an amazing job and nearly knocked off the second seeded team in the West. no small feat mind you.
And Kobe has 3 rings already, how many does Nash have? When players look back on their careers it's the rings that matter the most, not MVP trophies. So Nash can keep all of his MVP's, because he will never win a championship with Phoenix and their run-and-gun (aka play no defense) style of play. You have to have solid defense to win championships, and Phoenix has chosen to neglect that year after year and are confronted with the same results.
How many rings would Kobe have without Shaq on his team.....
Zero.
Originally posted by: herkulease
Originally posted by: sadguy
Originally posted by: KMFJD
Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
It's quite clear that Kobe's supporting cast is clearly to blame for the Laker loss. They sorely need a point guard and some better perimeter defenders (not to mention a real center). That being said, they did an amazing job and nearly knocked off the second seeded team in the West. no small feat mind you.
And Kobe has 3 rings already, how many does Nash have? When players look back on their careers it's the rings that matter the most, not MVP trophies. So Nash can keep all of his MVP's, because he will never win a championship with Phoenix and their run-and-gun (aka play no defense) style of play. You have to have solid defense to win championships, and Phoenix has chosen to neglect that year after year and are confronted with the same results.
How many rings would Kobe have without Shaq on his team.....
Zero.
how many does shaq have without kobe or phil. So far none, and this season it slowly looks like the diesel is running out of gas though he did have a good game the other night.
I wonder if one day the 3 recognize that they all needed each other. Maybe they won't even care, kobe is 136 mil richer, phil has its 10 mil a yea deal and shaq got his money, I believe is geting 50 mil over the next 2 years.
Originally posted by: KMFJD
Originally posted by: herkulease
Originally posted by: sadguy
Originally posted by: KMFJD
Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
It's quite clear that Kobe's supporting cast is clearly to blame for the Laker loss. They sorely need a point guard and some better perimeter defenders (not to mention a real center). That being said, they did an amazing job and nearly knocked off the second seeded team in the West. no small feat mind you.
And Kobe has 3 rings already, how many does Nash have? When players look back on their careers it's the rings that matter the most, not MVP trophies. So Nash can keep all of his MVP's, because he will never win a championship with Phoenix and their run-and-gun (aka play no defense) style of play. You have to have solid defense to win championships, and Phoenix has chosen to neglect that year after year and are confronted with the same results.
How many rings would Kobe have without Shaq on his team.....
Zero.
how many does shaq have without kobe or phil. So far none, and this season it slowly looks like the diesel is running out of gas though he did have a good game the other night.
I wonder if one day the 3 recognize that they all needed each other. Maybe they won't even care, kobe is 136 mil richer, phil has its 10 mil a yea deal and shaq got his money, I believe is geting 50 mil over the next 2 years.
Shaq>Kobe, always has, always will be
Originally posted by: Amplifier
Originally posted by: IAteYourMother
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Well just got back from the bar, didn't see most of the game but didn't have to: Congratulations PHO on a monumental upset, only the 8th time in history a team has come back from 3-1.
And for Kobe Cryant: Suck on it MVP (Major Vanishing Performance)!!!!!! Phoenix has a date with the Clips!!!!! That is all, back to your regularly scheduled Laker fanboism.
kobe didn't exactly vanish :roll:
1 point in the second half. Raja owned the hell out of him.
The transcript of Kobe Bryant's interview with ESPN's Jim Gray:
GRAY: What was your reaction to Shaq saying the Lakers are his team, and everybody knows it?
BRYANT: It doesn't matter whose team it is. Nobody cares. I don't, Karl [Malone] doesn't, Gary [Payton] doesn't, and our teammates and the fans don't either. There's more to life than whose team this is. But this is his team, so it's time for him to act like it. That means no more coming into camp fat and out of shape, when your team is relying on your leadership on and off the court. It also means no more blaming others for our team's failure, or blaming staff members for not overdramatizing your injuries so that you avoid blame for your lack of conditioning. Also, "my team" doesn't mean only when we win; it means carrying the burden of defeat just as gracefully as you carry a championship trophy.
GRAY: Do you consider Shaq to be a leader?
BRYANT: Leaders don't beg for a contract extension and negotiate some 30 million [dollars] plus per year deal in the media when we have two future Hall of Famers playing here pretty much for free. A leader would not demand the ball every time down the floor when you have the three of us [Malone, Payton, Bryant] playing beside you, not to mention the teammates you have gone to war with for years -- and, by the way, then threaten not to play defense and rebound if you don't get the ball every time down the floor.
GRAY: Shaq says that you have not been a team player. Is he right?
BRYANT: That's ridiculous. I have been successfully sacrificing my game for years for Shaq. That's what Phil [Jackson] wanted me to do, so I did it. Last year Phil told me Shaq was not in physical condition to carry the trust of our offense, so he asked me to do it. But then he saw Shaq was getting upset that the team wasn't running through him, so Phil asked me to pull back and I did. This year is no different; my role is whatever Phil wants it to be. Period.
GRAY: Through out the preseason, your leg and conditioning has been lagging. Are you in the proper shape to start the season?
BRYANT: My knee is not strong enough to play yet. I know it. When it is I will play.
GRAY: Does that mean you will miss the opener [Tuesday] night and other games?
BRYANT: I probably won't play tomorrow night or until I'm ready. But I don't need Shaq's advice on how to play hurt. I've played with IVs before, during and after games. I've played with a broken hand, a sprained ankle, a torn shoulder, a fractured tooth, a severed lip, and a knee the size of a softball. I don't miss 15 games because of a toe injury that everybody knows wasn't that serious in the first place.
GRAY: Kobe, Shaq said if you didn't like what he had to say you can opt out and leave next season. Will you leave the Lakers?
BRYANT: I won't make that decision until the end of the season. I told Shaq last year that I was planning on opting out. He knew before anyone. I told him out of respect for what we have been through together. I thought he should be the first to know. The fact that he acts like this is such a big shock is a mystery to me. If leaving the Lakers at the end of the season is what I decide, a major reason for that will be Shaq's childlike selfishness and jealousy.
GRAY: Do you feel Shaq has been supportive in regards to your legal situation?
BRYANT: He is not my quote unquote "big brother." A big brother would have called to lend his support this summer. I heard absolutely nothing from him. I spoke to Devean [George], Rick [Fox], Mitch [Kupchak], Phil, and our owner Jerry Buss. And Shaq's own Uncle Jerome called and left three messages. Other teammates like Derek [Fisher], Mark [Madsen], and [Stanislav Medvedenko] left messages as well. Opponents called like [Chris] Webber, [Mike] Bibby, and many others. So did a lot of coaches. Michael Jordan, who didn't have my home phone, tracked it down to lend his support. So did Tiger Woods. But yet from my so-called big brother, I heard nothing.
GRAY: Why not resolve this behind closed doors? Why is this so public?
BRYANT: I asked Phil on Sunday [yesterday] to say something to calm this situation down before it boiled over. But he backed away, so now here we are. I have been a bigger person every time something happened with Shaq, and I don't expect this to be any different. But somebody in this organization had to speak up, because his unprofessionalism hurt us last year, and I don't want it to hurt us this year.
Originally posted by: Amplifier
Originally posted by: IAteYourMother
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Well just got back from the bar, didn't see most of the game but didn't have to: Congratulations PHO on a monumental upset, only the 8th time in history a team has come back from 3-1.
And for Kobe Cryant: Suck on it MVP (Major Vanishing Performance)!!!!!! Phoenix has a date with the Clips!!!!! That is all, back to your regularly scheduled Laker fanboism.
kobe didn't exactly vanish :roll:
1 point in the second half. Raja owned the hell out of him.
Originally posted by: KMFJD
Originally posted by: herkulease
Originally posted by: sadguy
Originally posted by: KMFJD
Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
It's quite clear that Kobe's supporting cast is clearly to blame for the Laker loss. They sorely need a point guard and some better perimeter defenders (not to mention a real center). That being said, they did an amazing job and nearly knocked off the second seeded team in the West. no small feat mind you.
And Kobe has 3 rings already, how many does Nash have? When players look back on their careers it's the rings that matter the most, not MVP trophies. So Nash can keep all of his MVP's, because he will never win a championship with Phoenix and their run-and-gun (aka play no defense) style of play. You have to have solid defense to win championships, and Phoenix has chosen to neglect that year after year and are confronted with the same results.
How many rings would Kobe have without Shaq on his team.....
Zero.
how many does shaq have without kobe or phil. So far none, and this season it slowly looks like the diesel is running out of gas though he did have a good game the other night.
I wonder if one day the 3 recognize that they all needed each other. Maybe they won't even care, kobe is 136 mil richer, phil has its 10 mil a yea deal and shaq got his money, I believe is geting 50 mil over the next 2 years.
Shaq>Kobe, always has, always will be
Originally posted by: sadguy
Originally posted by: KMFJD
Originally posted by: herkulease
Originally posted by: sadguy
Originally posted by: KMFJD
Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
It's quite clear that Kobe's supporting cast is clearly to blame for the Laker loss. They sorely need a point guard and some better perimeter defenders (not to mention a real center). That being said, they did an amazing job and nearly knocked off the second seeded team in the West. no small feat mind you.
And Kobe has 3 rings already, how many does Nash have? When players look back on their careers it's the rings that matter the most, not MVP trophies. So Nash can keep all of his MVP's, because he will never win a championship with Phoenix and their run-and-gun (aka play no defense) style of play. You have to have solid defense to win championships, and Phoenix has chosen to neglect that year after year and are confronted with the same results.
How many rings would Kobe have without Shaq on his team.....
Zero.
how many does shaq have without kobe or phil. So far none, and this season it slowly looks like the diesel is running out of gas though he did have a good game the other night.
I wonder if one day the 3 recognize that they all needed each other. Maybe they won't even care, kobe is 136 mil richer, phil has its 10 mil a yea deal and shaq got his money, I believe is geting 50 mil over the next 2 years.
Shaq>Kobe, always has, always will be
qft.
Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: herkulease
Originally posted by: dahunan
Shows how little you followed it and now you spread your ignorance to others
Show me where it says he cheated on her mutliple times.. If you can then I will apologize to you.
maybe he's refering to this?
link
and next page.
page 50 even has kobe cell number? but I"m sure he disconnected it.
Thank you.. I never read through the whole thing... that is whack..
Stoyakapimp (sp?) ... I apologize to you for saying you were ignorant of all the facts...
Looks like I was ignorant of some too or used some defense mechanism and forgot I heard about this Michelle chick..
Hey, I got a rep to maintainOriginally posted by: bR
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Well just got back from the bar, didn't see most of the game but didn't have to: Congratulations PHO on a monumental upset, only the 8th time in history a team has come back from 3-1.
And for Kobe Cryant: Suck on it MVP (Major Vanishing Performance)!!!!!! Phoenix has a date with the Clips!!!!! That is all, back to your regularly scheduled Laker fanboism.
LOL typical sports guy
asshole to the end :thumbsup:
If Shaq's health holds up, he could very well win it all. Saying he would be lucky to win another is a huge stretch, Hell his team lost in Game 7 of the Eastern Conf finals to the Pistons (he had 27/9/3blocks). The fact that they were better than every team in the East except Detroit is nothing to be ashamed of, and that was only his first year with those guys. Kobe's team wasn't even close the playoffs. Yeah the Heat have D.Wade, but it's safe to assume that any team with a healthy Shaq will make the playoffs every year. Nobody in the league can shut Shaq down 1v1, Kobe there are a bunch of guys who can neutralize him (*cough* Bruce Bowen).Originally posted by: RiDE
Originally posted by: sadguy
Originally posted by: KMFJD
Originally posted by: herkulease
Originally posted by: sadguy
Originally posted by: KMFJD
Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
It's quite clear that Kobe's supporting cast is clearly to blame for the Laker loss. They sorely need a point guard and some better perimeter defenders (not to mention a real center). That being said, they did an amazing job and nearly knocked off the second seeded team in the West. no small feat mind you.
And Kobe has 3 rings already, how many does Nash have? When players look back on their careers it's the rings that matter the most, not MVP trophies. So Nash can keep all of his MVP's, because he will never win a championship with Phoenix and their run-and-gun (aka play no defense) style of play. You have to have solid defense to win championships, and Phoenix has chosen to neglect that year after year and are confronted with the same results.
How many rings would Kobe have without Shaq on his team.....
Zero.
how many does shaq have without kobe or phil. So far none, and this season it slowly looks like the diesel is running out of gas though he did have a good game the other night.
I wonder if one day the 3 recognize that they all needed each other. Maybe they won't even care, kobe is 136 mil richer, phil has its 10 mil a yea deal and shaq got his money, I believe is geting 50 mil over the next 2 years.
Shaq>Kobe, always has, always will be
qft.
Yeah because he sure ran aways with the championship last year didn't he? HA HA HA HAHAHAA HAHAH :roll:
If Shaq and Kobe actually found a way to fit their damn egos in one team, they could have won more, but nope. Shaq would be lucky to win another championship again.
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
If Shaq's health holds up, he could very well win it all. Saying he would be lucky to win another is a huge stretch, Hell his team lost in Game 7 of the Eastern Conf finals to the Pistons (he had 27/9/3blocks). The fact that they were better than every team in the East except Detroit is nothing to be ashamed of, and that was only his first year with those guys. Kobe's team wasn't even close the playoffs. Yeah the Heat have D.Wade, but it's safe to assume that any team with a healthy Shaq will make the playoffs every year. Nobody in the league can shut Shaq down 1v1, Kobe there are a bunch of guys who can neutralize him (*cough* Bruce Bowen).Originally posted by: RiDE
Originally posted by: sadguy
Originally posted by: KMFJD
Originally posted by: herkulease
Originally posted by: sadguy
Originally posted by: KMFJD
Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
It's quite clear that Kobe's supporting cast is clearly to blame for the Laker loss. They sorely need a point guard and some better perimeter defenders (not to mention a real center). That being said, they did an amazing job and nearly knocked off the second seeded team in the West. no small feat mind you.
And Kobe has 3 rings already, how many does Nash have? When players look back on their careers it's the rings that matter the most, not MVP trophies. So Nash can keep all of his MVP's, because he will never win a championship with Phoenix and their run-and-gun (aka play no defense) style of play. You have to have solid defense to win championships, and Phoenix has chosen to neglect that year after year and are confronted with the same results.
How many rings would Kobe have without Shaq on his team.....
Zero.
how many does shaq have without kobe or phil. So far none, and this season it slowly looks like the diesel is running out of gas though he did have a good game the other night.
I wonder if one day the 3 recognize that they all needed each other. Maybe they won't even care, kobe is 136 mil richer, phil has its 10 mil a yea deal and shaq got his money, I believe is geting 50 mil over the next 2 years.
Shaq>Kobe, always has, always will be
qft.
Yeah because he sure ran aways with the championship last year didn't he? HA HA HA HAHAHAA HAHAH :roll:
If Shaq and Kobe actually found a way to fit their damn egos in one team, they could have won more, but nope. Shaq would be lucky to win another championship again.
Originally posted by: DaveCSparty
Michael Jordan would've never let his team get blown out by 30 points in the playoffs, especially game 7.
Kobe's a good player, but he's really no where near the level of Jordan yet... in skills and in teamwork and maturity level. Yeah Kobe makes some pretty passes, but they don't benefit the play like they should. He also isn't that great on defense, despite what a lot of people say. He definitely slacks on the defensive end.