Gawd. The only controversies surrounding her were propaganda constructs of the right wing. They put the Willie Horton & swift liars attacks to shame.
Why didn't Warren run last time? Why now when he amassed the following? I said prior I thought so too after the heart attack, but it's his choice to stay in, and I didn't know how major it was. Now that he's been ahead of Warren, why don't you say the same about Warren dropping out? If you want to blame anyone for the bad process for selecting out of more than 2 candidates, blame the Democratic leadership. They could have changed this decades ago.
Hillary lost because of Hillary. A lot of us didn't want her to even run because of the controversy surrounding her. But nope, she had to be queen!
I'm saying he should've let Warren take the lead because she doesn't have a cult of personality that will torpedo the nominee if it isn't her.
The Bernie or bust crowd is just a different flavor of mindlessness, like Trumpsters. If Bernie is to be trusted, why didn't they do like Bernie said & vote for Clinton? It looks like a form of concern trolling more than anything else. Here we are with the worst possible outcome & they still believe their own bullshit.
Or not real (assuming online). I've yet to meet an actual 'bernie bro' in person.I'm willing to accept that some of the Bernie or Bust people had foolishly deluded themselves into thinking Clinton and Trump weren't different enough in 2016. This was of course ludicrous, but sometimes people believe ludicrous things. I thought the same thing in 2000 about Gore and Bush. The difference is I learned my lesson. If after four years of Trump any of these Bernie Bros are still saying they won't vote for the Democratic nominee they are either concern trolls as you say or insane.
I'm saying he should've let Warren take the lead because she doesn't have a cult of personality that will torpedo the nominee if it isn't her.
Gawd. The only controversies surrounding her were propaganda constructs of the right wing. They put the Willie Horton & swift liars attacks to shame.
The Bernie or bust crowd is just a different flavor of mindlessness, like Trumpsters. If Bernie is to be trusted, why didn't they do like Bernie said & vote for Clinton? It looks like a form of concern trolling more than anything else. Here we are with the worst possible outcome & they still believe their own bullshit.
Yeah he's got a decent shot. If it comes down to Sanders vs Buttigieg I'll take the former. Bernie can actually garner some of the non-white vote and I won't have to be subjected to the less than subtle ways Trump will call Mayor Pete a f*ggot for the rest of the year.
I agree, but no Republican will even consider allowing it where they can block it. GOP power depends on voter disenfranchisement. They want only the most fanatical voting, because they have spend decades making their followers fanatics.Vote by mail is the answer. Republicans get the drizzling shits over it.
Or where Republicans are in charge. They seem to work hard at making voting take as long as possible. Where I live the average wait time to vote is over an hour.
You know, that might be a touch harsh.71% of the vote is in.
TWO DAYS LATER and still at 71% ???
iOwa not only deserves to lose their first place status, iOwa deserves to be nuked off the map.
Putin, if you're listening, PRETTY PLEASE!
^^^This, damn it, all of this!
Once Lyin' Donnie and the Repub/Faux News Smear and Fear machine got done with this JEWISH COMMUNIST LEFTIST ELITIST, he'd be toast and anathema with that broad spectrum of the "low information" American electorate that simply outnumbers us "woke" folks.
I agree, but no Republican will even consider allowing it where they can block it. GOP power depends on voter disenfranchisement. They want only the most fanatical voting, because they have spend decades making their followers fanatics.
Weren't they caught messing with mail in votes too?Vote by mail is the answer. Republicans get the drizzling shits over it.
It's just a fact though that since the US is a flawed democracy, the platform won't be as liberal as some other countries.
I don't buy it. They say everything is communist and socialist, even Hillary and Obama. Liberal voters supporting the other candidates claim they'll back whoever the nominee is. Bernie has had a few years since 2016 for people to better know him as a democratic socialist. If he gets the nomination, that's likely a sign those attacks won't be that effective.
On the evidence of this thread some of you dislike each other more than you do Trump. I hope AT is not representative of the US electorate as a whole.
Anyone saying they won't vote Democrat unless it's Sanders is just nuts, but the hate being spat at him by centrists is just as crazy, IMO. I keep biting my tongue because on this topic (internal disputes of the liberals and left) above all I would find it hard to disagree with a response that's it's none of my buseiness as a non-US-citizen. But the infighting is distressing to witness, especially when global issues like climate change are at stake.
I'm sorry, I don't believe that for a second when it comes to the independents and centrists that Ds need to win. Esp with an incumbent pres riding a rocking economy.
Radical economic reforms and lots of new taxes will scare the shit out of the suburbs.
Bernie simply did not show an energized base would turnout for him Iowa. He did well, but numbers were are 2016 levels.
A high base turnout strategy doesn't look viable.
Weren't they caught messing with mail in votes too?
Can't remember exactly but they had employed someone who had done similar things before to manage it.Something about boxes of ballots being hidden away so they wouldn't be counted, correct?
All those accusations have been proven false...move along or post a link backing up your nonsense...Something about boxes of ballots being hidden away so they wouldn't be counted, correct?
No there was someone who went door to door in FL or GA or something collecting mail-in ballots and then "losing" a bunch of the ones that voted for Democrats.All those accusations have been proven false...move along or post a link backing up your nonsense...
All those accusations have been proven false...move along or post a link backing up your nonsense...
Weren't they caught messing with mail in votes too?