I'm not a Bernie supporter, I'm not even a registered Democrat, but I will vote for Bernie if he is the nominee. And, I will probably get flamed for posting this...
But...From a pragmatic point of view I don't see the point of insulting the Bernie supporters. When has anyone changed someone's mind by insulting them. I would generalize there are two types Bernie supporters. There are those that irrationally decide they will only vote for Bernie. "The Democrat are running a conspiracy nutters". These people cannot, or at least likely won't be convinced otherwise. The other group is probably more reasonable supporters who are planning to vote for the nominee regardless. If you jump on this second group and start calling them 'Bernie Bros' and telling them they're cult members you might just move them into the former group.
I don't see anything positive coming out of having disdain for a youth movement more involved in politics than anything we’ve seen since, probably the 1960s. Nothing good will come for the party if you take a whole generation of very enthusiastic, very politically active young people and insult them, demoralize them, alienate them, and try to crush their enthusiasm. You’re talking about a sizable politically active movement and some Democrats are brow beating them instead of trying to integrate them into the party. How does that even advance the party's political agenda? Here you have your next generation of political support, far more politically active and more likely to vote than kids in previous generations, and they'd rather alienate them than to try to integrate them into the party.
I can’t believe that even after 4 years of Trump, Some Democrats are still doing they're best to discourage people from joining the coalition and trying to beat the enthusiasm out of them. It’s toxic.
If you're a Bernie supporter that obviously supports liberal ideals it is irrational to stay home or vote for Trump. Sadly people do irrational things when they're angry. I don't see how insulting Bernie supporters - making them angry will lead them to making a more rational decision. I get that plenty of them will be idiotic and obstinate. But some may have their minds changed. Not necessarily to not primary for Bernie but to vote for whomever wins the nomination. So, for the Democrats - the small amount of influence each of them have, you might as well as try to get something positive out of it. Even if the chance is small. The Democrats are going to have figure out a way to integrate these people into the party eventually - right?
I guess if someone compares you to Alex Jones you're probably not going to get along too well with that person, haha.
Yeh, but what if they're right? You might want to examine the possibility. Nobody wanted this cock up. There's no evidence that it's more nefarious than that.
Your article literally cites the same information I previously mentioned.What we know about Shadow, Acronym and the Iowa caucuses
As Iowa Democratic Party officials blamed an app for the delayed release of caucus results, conspiracies started swirlinwww.politifact.com
Good wrap-up of what actually went down Monday night
Edit: Bookmarking may not be working so skip to 2:40 for the summary.
Many of them might be worried they'll be died by the general election, though. Considering most of his support is from seniors.I've seen Buttigieg supporters saying it (if Mayor Pete doesn't get the nomination, they're not voting).
Confirmation bias FTW
Please explain how the party rat fucked the guy that less votes in 2016? Bragging that your dude might have, just maybe, just barely, beaten a completely unknown small town mayor doesn't seem like major bragging rights here. Yes, Iowa screwed the pouch, but I think the only person it is really helping is Biden, but anyone that looks at the partial results know he didn't do well.Not a recent tweet; but this can’t really be overstated.
Remember, Bernie supporters are just supposed to just rally behind the corrupt establishment party that rat-fucked them two elections in a row now.
Like anybody is going to listen to an hour & a half of that after the raving intro. Oh, yeh. You betcha.
Please explain how the party rat fucked the guy that less votes in 2016? Bragging that your dude might have, just maybe, just barely, beaten a completely unknown small town mayor doesn't seem like major bragging rights here. Yes, Iowa screwed the pouch, but I think the only person it is really helping is Biden, but anyone that looks at the partial results know he didn't do well.
I voted for Bernie in 2016, but he is pretty low on my list due to bullshit like this (and I think others would be better presidents, as well).
Holy shit... Since when did democrats start posting long haired conspiracy youtube videos.Listen to the podcast and you'd know.
Sure! Matt explained it nicely. If you weren't so busy frothing at the gums about "Bernie Bros" or whatever, maybe you would have seen it.
"The point of Iowa is a media bounce from the results, the actual votes are basically irrelevant. Releasing a partial count to generate or bury headlines is the rigging."
Please explain how the party rat fucked the guy that less votes in 2016?
The dude got a lot less votes. If there hadn't been a single super delegate, he would've still lost. Or are you really hung up on the fact Hillary got a debate question, about flint water, ahead of time?
Bragging that your dude might have, just maybe, just barely, beaten a completely unknown small town mayor doesn't seem like major bragging rights here.
I voted for Bernie in 2016, but he is pretty low on my list due to bullshit like this (and I think others would be better presidents, as well).
I don't even know who Matt Stoller is, beyond seeing his name here a few times. I was really talking about the wingnut BS from @Blackjack200 and the Bernie or everything is rigged crowd.Wut. What did Bernie do? He didn't try to cast doubt on it from my knowledge. It makes me suspicious you ever voted for him if somehow Matt Stoller decides your opinion of him.
what doeas that have to do with anything?? Unless it TRIGGERED!! You...Goldman Sachs executive? lol seems like something the GOP would do.
No they released a partial count of the votes for your benefit -- Your TRIGGERED!!Sure! Matt explained it nicely. If you weren't so busy frothing at gums about "Bernie Bros" or whatever, maybe you would have seen it.
"The point of Iowa is a media bounce from the results, the actual votes are basically irrelevant. Releasing a partial count to generate or bury headlines is the rigging."
Goodnight? As you stick your head in the sand....Sure. Goodnight.
I don't even know who Matt Stoller is.
I am basing my opinion on the fact that he rode out 2016 way past the point he had no chance and fueled a lot of the conspiracy theories that lead to all the "poor Bernie" memes.
I don't even know who Matt Stoller is, beyond seeing his name here a few times. I was really talking about the wingnut BS from @Blackjack200 and the Bernie or everything is rigged crowd.
I am basing my opinion about Bernie on the fact that he rode out 2016 way past the point he had no chance and fueled a lot of the conspiracy theories that lead to all the "poor Bernie" memes. I like Bernie, but I don't trust him to bow out gracefully and get his Bros to fall in line if it becomes clear he isn't going to get the nomination.
I also think Warren would be a better president while occupying the same part of the scale as Bernie.
Regardless, Bernie supporters need to realize they are turning off others with their Trump like BS.
I didn't think it was a YouTube video, I was saying it was equivalent to the long hair YT videos posted by far right loons. Especially with your response "Listen to this crazy Podcast" just like RroooR (or whatever his name was) saying "Just watch the video."i mean you obviously didn‘t listen to a second of it since you thought it was a YouTube video about conspiracies or everything being rigged. It’s neither of those things.
I thought you were responding to the tweet from Stoller. It's the only thing quoted.
I didn't think it was a YouTube video, I was saying it was equivalent to the long hair YT videos posted by far right loons. Especially with your response "Listen to this crazy Podcast" just like RroooR (or whatever his name was) saying "Just watch the video."
I was responding the @Blackjack200 rat-fucked comment that was under that tweet.