Game Day Thread: Iowa Caucuses

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fskimospy

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I get what you are saying, but the queen of the dem party is doing exactly the opposite of what you wated. why cant she say anything nice about Bernie when he is running. So it's not just the bernuie bros [I hate this term, so binary], but all the Hillary supporters. .

Hillary is her own person and can say whatever she wants.

As far as ‘Hillary supporters’ who are these people? She’s not running. She is politically irrelevant, the only people who bring her up are Trump and Bernie supporters or the media looking for clicks.

Everyone I know who supported Hillary has said they will vote for the Democratic nominee no matter who it is. This is the same thing they said in 2016 too, by the way. The only people I see saying otherwise are Bernie people.
 

nakedfrog

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I get what you are saying, but the queen of the dem party is doing exactly the opposite of what you wated. why cant she say anything nice about Bernie when he is running. So it's not just the bernuie bros [I hate this term, so binary], but all the Hillary supporters. .
AFAIK, not all Bernie supporters are "Bernie Bros"...
 

nakedfrog

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Hillary is her own person and can say whatever she wants.

As far as ‘Hillary supporters’ who are these people? She’s not running. She is politically irrelevant, the only people who bring her up are Trump and Bernie supporters or the media looking for clicks.

Everyone I know who supported Hillary has said they will vote for the Democratic nominee no matter who it is. This is the same thing they said in 2016 too, by the way. The only people I see saying otherwise are Bernie people.
I've seen Buttigieg supporters saying it (if Mayor Pete doesn't get the nomination, they're not voting).
 

Maxima1

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Everyone I know who supported Hillary has said they will vote for the Democratic nominee no matter who it is. This is the same thing they said in 2016 too, by the way. The only people I see saying otherwise are Bernie people.

So who was going to refuse to support Bernie in 2016 had he been the nominee? Because you made it clear you thought Republicans attacking him as a socialist would have led to him losing worse than Hillary.
 

Blackjack200

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Hillary is her own person and can say whatever she wants.

As far as ‘Hillary supporters’ who are these people? She’s not running. She is politically irrelevant, the only people who bring her up are Trump and Bernie supporters or the media looking for clicks.

Everyone I know who supported Hillary has said they will vote for the Democratic nominee no matter who it is. This is the same thing they said in 2016 too, by the way. The only people I see saying otherwise are Bernie people.

Another way of saying this is that all the other candidates are fighting over the same base and Bernie is the only one reaching voters outside that bubble.
 
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fskimospy

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I do think general incompetence seems more likely than a conspiracy.

I am interested to hear the conspiracy. Apparently it is that many weeks in advance the DNC realized that Bernie was an unstoppable force and commissioned a shitty app to ensure Iowa election night incompetence in order to blunt the narrative where he basically tied with a second tier candidate.

Now we have people on this forum credulously quoting people claiming that vote numbers are being manipulated because they are different than other publicly reported numbers, as if that wouldn’t be the world’s dumbest way to rig an election.

Bernie guys, just stop. You’re doing him more harm than good by acting insane.
 
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Maxima1

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The crappy and unnecessary app is more of a sign of the rot with money in politics. Both parties love it because they can funnel easy money to their friends and relatives.

Nah, at least in Iowa Butteigeig showed the most potential to reach outside the base.

And just the day before the Iowa caucuses, you probably would have said Biden! Buttigieg is the most unknown quantity I think. He might get hurt for being gay, and he's had a few shakeups with minorities. What's more, out of the major contenders, he's doing the worst with matchups against Trump.
 

fskimospy

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Matt Stoller is a Warren supporter. He's anti-socialist and generally critical of Sanders.

I couldn’t care less who he supports, what he’s saying is dumb as there is zero evidence any of the results are rigged.

It’s always strange to me that people would think that I would think because he supports someone I support that it would suddenly make his position less stupid.
 

JEDIYoda

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Less than 1,000 votes separate the top 2!! It is way to early to declare Bernie the winner!
 

Blackjack200

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I couldn’t care less who he supports, what he’s saying is dumb as there is zero evidence any of the results are rigged.

It’s always strange to me that people would think that I would think because he supports someone I support that it would suddenly make his position less stupid.

Okay.

Bernie guys, just stop. You’re doing him more harm than good by acting insane.
 

IronWing

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I'm beginning to think the whole Bernie Bro thing is astroturf, completely fabricated. All these links, all these responses canned and ready to unleash at a moment's notice. It's like a Stewox diagram in motion.
 
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