Game of Thrones - TV Series (NO BOOK SPOILERS)

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Ichinisan

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Ah, so the company increased their income by 30% and he gave all the employees a 4% bonus, 7.5% of the increase they helped produce. That one is a true philanthropist.

It's better than nothing but not exactly a good counterpoint. If it was 50% of their yearly income or even 15% that would be one thing. Regardless, there is always the exception that proves the rule. It's pretty much commonly accepted that those who have no problem screwing over everyone else are the ones that usually get ahead. This is true in the Game of Thrones and in real life for the most part unfortunately.
The goal of a company is to earn profit, not give it away. They probably have plans for that money. Expansion. More jobs.

It gets spent one way or another. Any time money is spent, people benefit somewhere.
 

AstroManLuca

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Dany is pretty cool, but she's spent 3 seasons dicking around on another continent.

She has to wait for her dragons to get bigger you know.

Also,
she's still dicking around on the other continent at the end of book 5.
 

nageov3t

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I feel like Dany arriving on Westeros is probably endgame stuff.

still hoping for
her and Arya to connect.
 

KentState

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I feel like Dany arriving on Westeros is probably endgame stuff.

still hoping for
her and Arya to connect.

The dragons are God Mode in the series so far. Seems like such a convenient plot device to leverage that the book has to be slowly progress her to Westeros.
 

Agent11

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I wonder how Arya serving the many faced god of death is going to play out, it seems that followers of R'hllor the red god view the seven as relatively new false gods, but the stranger aspect of the seven and the many faced god of death are viewed as the same thing, a much more ancient god and demon... Which would put them at odds.

I hope Arya pays Cersei a visit in the winds of winter :3
 
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PottedMeat

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I wonder how Arya serving the many faced god of death is going to play out, it seems that followers of R'hllor the red god view the seven as relatively new false gods, but the stranger aspect of the seven and the many faced god of death are viewed as the same thing, a much more ancient god and demon... Which would put them at odds.

I hope Arya pays Cersei a visit in the winds of winter :3

hey walder frey needs a wife right?
 

bononos

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It's been a few years, but I don't recall 4 being hard to finish. Book 5, though, I had to force myself to read to the end.
I think more readers found book 5 a better read than book 4 Feast which could be a slog in parts despite ADWD having >1000 pages. Personally I liked ADWD more but the guys who waited 5 long years for it to come out could've felt cheated a little.

Anyway theres someone who created an index of chapters of book 4+5 to read in parallel, the chapters will be ordered by approx timeline in this index. It could be make the books more enjoyable to read.
http://boiledleather.com/post/25902554148/a-new-reader-friendly-combined-reading-order-for-a
 

nageov3t

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I'm hoping the show finds a way to speed up Arya's storyline.

this season, she's felt like the Forrest Gump of Westeros -- just randomly appearing with random main characters and at random events.
 
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I'm hoping the show finds a way to speed up Arya's storyline.

this season, she's felt like the Forrest Gump of Westeros -- just randomly appearing with random main characters and at random events.

Arya is made significantly more interesting when she's teamed up with someone from Braavos. Syrio Forel, Jaqen H'ghar... Maybe that California surfer boy that Daenerys picked up will abandon her to go traipsing through the daisies with Arya making snide remarks and occasionally killing someone.
 

MikeyLSU

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I think everyone needs to be more careful of spoilers. for instance
those of you talking about characters meeting in later books give away the fact that they are still alive by book 6 which is a spoiler in and of itself. Just be a little more careful about talking about the books. I've read them, but if I hadn't I would be upset at reading that Arya and Cercei both live that long, as I'm sure everyone wants Cercei dead.
 

WisMan

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I think more readers found book 5 a better read than book 4 Feast which could be a slog in parts despite ADWD having >1000 pages. Personally I liked ADWD more but the guys who waited 5 long years for it to come out could've felt cheated a little.

Anyway theres someone who created an index of chapters of book 4+5 to read in parallel, the chapters will be ordered by approx timeline in this index. It could be make the books more enjoyable to read.
http://boiledleather.com/post/25902554148/a-new-reader-friendly-combined-reading-order-for-a

That is awesome. I am just about to finish A Storm of Swords on my second reading, and I was looking for something exactly like this. Thanks!
 

mike208

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Is it worth reading the books at this point, or should I just follow along with the show. I don't mind the books spoiling the show, since obviously I will still get the surprise from reading the books.
 

KMFJD

Lifer
Aug 11, 2005
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The bread/salt ceremony which is supposed to give you the hosts protection, are they supposed to eat both bread and salt? Walder Frey definitely did not touch bread to salt
 

BladeVenom

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Is it worth reading the books at this point, or should I just follow along with the show. I don't mind the books spoiling the show, since obviously I will still get the surprise from reading the books.

The books have so much background, history, and details that don't get explained in the show. Plus there are some significant differences in season 2 and 3. So I would recommend reading the books, at least the first 3.
 

BladeVenom

Lifer
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The bread/salt ceremony which is supposed to give you the hosts protection, are they supposed to eat both bread and salt? Walder Frey definitely did not touch bread to salt

I think once they are served and eat bread and salt they are officially guests. The host doesn't have to eat any.
 

MikeyLSU

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I think more readers found book 5 a better read than book 4 Feast which could be a slog in parts despite ADWD having >1000 pages. Personally I liked ADWD more but the guys who waited 5 long years for it to come out could've felt cheated a little.

Anyway theres someone who created an index of chapters of book 4+5 to read in parallel, the chapters will be ordered by approx timeline in this index. It could be make the books more enjoyable to read.
http://boiledleather.com/post/25902554148/a-new-reader-friendly-combined-reading-order-for-a

awesome, I'm rereading the books now and am about half way through Clash of Kings. I will certainly try this for books 4 and 5 when I get there.
 

crownjules

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The books have so much background, history, and details that don't get explained in the show. Plus there are some significant differences in season 2 and 3. So I would recommend reading the books, at least the first 3.

Yeah. Like Robb thinks he's safe at the Twins because he's eaten Frey's food and should be extended "guest rights", but that's obviously not the case. So flavor and context like that is lost because they don't explain it in the show (but readers understand the significance of that detail in the scene). Many other examples of such things happen. Characters are left out or changed to fit the shortened format of the TV show. And so on.
 

ch33zw1z

Lifer
Nov 4, 2004
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Ah, so the company increased their income by 30% and he gave all the employees a 4% bonus, 7.5% of the increase they helped produce. That one is a true philanthropist.

It's better than nothing but not exactly a good counterpoint. If it was 50% of their yearly income or even 15% that would be one thing. Regardless, there is always the exception that proves the rule. It's pretty much commonly accepted that those who have no problem screwing over everyone else are the ones that usually get ahead. This is true in the Game of Thrones and in real life for the most part unfortunately.

shit man, they got a bigger bonus that I did. whatever.
 
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