actually i suggest you go look it up as im not sure what about that was said in the show
In the show he claims that he was not responsible for the raping. That was the mountain. The Mad King however prompted them to rebel and overthrow the throne.
I don't remember what blankslate said that was so bad. Anyway, maybe it's a good thing I missed it.
I hate spoilers too, but I'd feel bad if this became a witchhunt.
How Could the jewels be able to implicate Sansa if they weren't poison?
tywin did betray areys. he sacked king's landing and raped and slaughtered every targaryen except danerys and viscerys, who were hiding on dragonstone at the time.
I don't remember what blankslate said that was so bad. Anyway, maybe it's a good thing I missed it.
I hate spoilers too, but I'd feel bad if this became a witchhunt.
By leaving one at the source of the poison. Duh. Imagination!
Actually, it takes far less imagination than the ridiculous idea that it was a way to get poison to the ceremony only to wisk her away before that could be discovered.
Oh wait, I did finally see S4E3 last night and Little finger clearly reveals it to be glass and throws it into the boat with the fool (not in the water). He clearly wanted to implicate Sansa, so... Occam's Razor wins again.
You're forgetting something:Yes, but Littlefinger was the one pulling all the strings. Littlefinger knew the king died before word could have possibly traveled to him. Ser Dontos came with Sansa straight from the wedding. He had knowledge of the poison, the necklace's true origin and Ser Dontos' intentions before the wedding happened.
I don't think so at all. Petre Baelish/Littlefinger runs a spy network and knows things. The power in knowing is all in how he uses the information. If he uses the knowledge that someone else is poisoning the king at the wedding to implicate Sansa and entrap her, it doesn't mean he had anything to do with the poisoning.the good - baelish makes 1 hell of a return, although the show gives up on an excellent whodunnit?
I don't see your reasoning. The gems were fake so the drunken fool wouldn't just steal the necklace for himself.
You are missing my point: he could have thrown it into the water but, instead, he threw it into the boat with Dantos right after explaining to Sansa that he was setting her up. He wants them to find the necklace when they find Dantos' body.
actually i suggest you go look it up as im not sure what about that was said in the show
So the scene where Dany acquired the Unsullied was boring? Because that's exactly what you just described. Slave revolt from inside a city.
Honestly it seems realistic to me. Dany wants to keep her army intact and they didn't seem to have much choice. Even if they had the numbers they appear to have brought minimal siege equipment, certainly nothing that looked capable of cracking the city's walls; and the dragons aren't fully grown yet.
Everyone's entitled to their opinion, I'm just saying ATOT has a natural tradition of severely nitpicking anything that reaches a certain level of popularity. I suppose the comment was speaking more in general. A couple here (can't remember who exactly) have complained about Dany's storyline, others about Sam, Jon Snow, etc. IMO all of the various plotlines are excellent, hell I think Bran's is by far the weakest but I still enjoy it.
There's just so much happening plot-wise that you can't expect to see every plot substantially advance during every episode or even every other episode; the time slot simply isn't big enough. There's no "filler" that I can see, nor do any plotlines flounder, they're simply rotated into and out of the limelight as appropriate and necessary. The plots on the back burner usually get a few minutes of update (the most recent final scene could be summed up as "meanwhile, in Eros...") or nothing at all; which is fine. Given the quality and depth of the show, can't really ask for much more.
So the scene where Dany acquired the Unsullied was boring? Because that's exactly what you just described. Slave revolt from inside a city.
Honestly it seems realistic to me. Dany wants to keep her army intact and they didn't seem to have much choice. Even if they had the numbers they appear to have brought minimal siege equipment, certainly nothing that looked capable of cracking the city's walls; and the dragons aren't fully grown yet.
People are criticizing the Dany scene because it is taking too fl to go anywhere. I mentioned that episode 1 was her approaching a path, about to march to this city. Two episodes later, she appears at the gate, and it ends without much progress. Now, I liked that scene, I just felt aggravated by the way it ended. If that were the previous episode, fine. It's just a slog.
The only way to fix the slog in many of these stories, imo, is to kill a shit load of characters. I do hope that happens soon
Hey guys, I'm going to go back and read the discussion starting from Friday but I see a message from DrPizza that Mongrel and blankslate might have posted spoilers. Should I avoid their posts from around that time?
People are criticizing the Dany scene because it is taking too fl to go anywhere. I mentioned that episode 1 was her approaching a path, about to march to this city. Two episodes later, she appears at the gate, and it ends without much progress. Now, I liked that scene, I just felt aggravated by the way it ended. If that were the previous episode, fine. It's just a slog.
The only way to fix the slog in many of these stories, imo, is to kill a shit load of characters. I do hope that happens soon
It's certainly possible but it seems more likely he was pulling all the strings.You're forgetting something:
You may be mixing what he knows with what strings were his to pull.
See below.
I don't think so at all. Petre Baelish/Littlefinger runs a spy network and knows things. The power in knowing is all in how he uses the information. If he uses the knowledge that someone else is poisoning the king at the wedding to implicate Sansa and entrap her, it doesn't mean he had anything to do with the poisoning.
People are criticizing the Dany scene because it is taking too fl to go anywhere. I mentioned that episode 1 was her approaching a path, about to march to this city. Two episodes later, she appears at the gate, and it ends without much progress. Now, I liked that scene, I just felt aggravated by the way it ended. If that were the previous episode, fine. It's just a slog.
The only way to fix the slog in many of these stories, imo, is to kill a shit load of characters. I do hope that happens soon
I think his problem is they are showing too much of her. She's in every episode, they could have easily cut her 2nd episode scenes.I think Dany's pace is realistic though. She is marching, on foot, a vast army and that takes time. Would you prefer they continuously cut to them eating and goofing around before Mareen? And once they did show up, they had to give some kind of 'cliff hanger' and display how she can get people to he cause. In slave cities where slaves outnumber the masters, showing up and saying "rebel and be free, btw I got an army and dragons to back you up!" is a pretty good way to take a city.
They are showing all of the stuff that is happening in Westeros rather than Dany, because her story itself is rather disconnected from everything else at this point. I mean, there is the threat she will eventually come to Westeros and a few other minor things, but her actions aren't really effecting the 7 kingdoms at all right now.