Game of Thrones - TV Series (NO BOOK SPOILERS)

[Craig234]

"There's a huge crowd of people who won't stand for her killing the Faith Militant to get out of her trial."

I wouldn't sell life insurance to the witness against her.

I think we're about to see another meaning of Lannisters always paying their debts.

 

[fuzzybabybunny]

You found it odd that a young son wasn't there to receive his naked, shit-covered mother? I don't think either party would want that...




fun theory, but Baratheons should fit the bill for kings blood

Spoiler

the founder of House Baratheon, Orys Baratheon, was a bastard half-brother of Aegon the Conqueror. Orys then married the daughter of the last Storm King, Argilac the Arrogant, so whether its from Taragyans or from the kings of the original 7 kingdoms (much like how Stark blood could possibly be king's blood), Baratheon should fit the bill.

Then there's Rhaelle Targaryan (paternal grandmother to Robert, Stannis, and Renly), the daughter of Aegon V, married into House Baratheon and so there's a very recent Targaryan connection

I think its more likely that she simply realized that she misinterpreted the flames all this time

I see it as Ice and Fire. I'm kind of fuzzy on the Ice side, but the Fire side is fairly obvious.

The LoL represents fire and any god can manipulate mortals for their own ends. Dany is the mother of fire-breathing dragons. She's also completely immune to fire - she's the only one with true "King's Blood". Robert wasn't. Stannis wasn't (Wasn't his entire fleet burned in the sea? Didn't 20 men burn his horses and supplies? Didn't his own daughter (supposedly with King's blood) burn to death at the stake?)

If there would ever be a character that the LoL is aligned with, it would be someone who is immune to the very element that the LoL is known for - fire.

And there's no mis-reading by Melissandra. The LoL showed her what it wanted her to see, knowing how she would interpret it. It's a god, after all. The LoL is playing the chess peices in the game of thrones in this tale of fire and ice.

yup, that's what I said in one of my posts weeks ago, as well.

it seems like the Lord of Light wants the Brathenon blood line dead.
Why, I don't know.

maybe the LoL is an magical entity that's the opposite of the White Walkers?
he's trying to save the world form the White Walkers in his own way? and eliminating the Brathelon blood line was necessary for his plans?

as I said it b4 many times.. whats so special about King's blood?
just because you sit on the throne doesn't make your blood special. What if it was Ned Stark who became king instead of Roberts after the death of the Mad king?

Elimination of the Baratheon blood line makes more sense instead of 'kings blood' being special.

This to me is the most obvious explanation and also shows the subtlety of this world. When the shadow baby first appeared I thought the show jumped the shark by bringing in the patently supernatural (before it was just humans using humanly instruments for power gain). But now I see that there is an underlying game at play by unseen forces that are more powerful than the humans in the world.

There is no denying that there are also supernatural entities in the fray.

In the usual fantasy universe there are the traditional fire-breathing dragons, but also ice dragons. Many dragons died in the world's past. I don't think it's a gigantic leap to expect that the White Walkers (who are probably priests of the Ice god or mages practicing ice magic (which includes necromancy)) has ressurected or could ressurect lots of dragons as wights.

 

[JEDI]

has hbo said how many seasons GoT will be?

will season 6 be the last?

I wonder how all the major plots will come together into one at the finale?

or will it end up White Walkers rule the 7 kingdoms and Dany rules the other side of the world, and 2 will never meet? the end.

 

[Train]

I think 7 is supposed to be the last.

 

[Maximilian]

Oh for fuck sake.... Stannis!! My king!! Mel get your shit together and go bring him back to life. That other lord of light follower managed it why cant you.

At least I got to see my beloved Cersei naked. Shame the crowd didn't like her so much but hey ho.

 

[fuzzybabybunny]

I kind of lost the point of this show. Does anyone know anymore?

Is it the winter and keeping the undead from reclaiming everything? Is it good vs bad? Is it slavery vs freedom? Is it who religion is true and more righteous?

I am at a serious loss here, cause all I've seen so far was atrocity after atrocity.

It's a game of thrones played inside the context of ice and fire.

 

[SMOGZINN]

Seems to me the high sparrow was proving a point and humiliating the throne at the same time. He seemed to be showing that even the rulers of the land bow to the church. Humiliating Cersei was a huge fuck you at the throne and them not doing anything (not sure what they can do that won't make matters even worse) shows that he has higher power than them. It'll only add to his following.

I've no doubt it'll end really badly for him and the members of his following, but there is a point he made. How else could he show how strong he is?

To bad they ran Varys off. He would know what to do. His little birds would know how to deal with sparrows.

Also, with Stannis' army gone is Littlefinger in trouble? His plan seemed to hinge on the Crown needing him to be able to counter Stannis.

 

[nageov3t]

To bad they ran Varys off. He would know what to do. His little birds would know how to deal with sparrows.

Also, with Stannis' army gone is Littlefinger in trouble? His plan seemed to hinge on the Crown needing him to be able to counter Stannis.

the Crown may still need him to counter the Boltons, who just married Sansa Stark (aka: one of the people Cersei believes helped kill Joffrey and Tywin)... or the Boltons may need him to counter the Crown. he's in the perfect position to play both sides against each other as long as the Boltons and the Lannisters never actually speak to each other directly.

 

[nageov3t]

has hbo said how many seasons GoT will be?

will season 6 be the last?

I wonder how all the major plots will come together into one at the finale?

or will it end up White Walkers rule the 7 kingdoms and Dany rules the other side of the world, and 2 will never meet? the end.

7 seasons, 7 books, 7 kingdoms.

iirc, HBO wanted 10 seasons, and there's certainly enough source material that they could have stretched it out, but the writers/show runners balked at the idea.

 

[Charmonium]

Jon Snow warged into wolf at the last moment to save his consciousness in a wolf body.

Ellaria will kill her brother, take the throne and march on King's Landing.

 

[zinfamous]

This to me is the most obvious explanation and also shows the subtlety of this world. When the shadow baby first appeared I thought the show jumped the shark by bringing in the patently supernatural (before it was just humans using humanly instruments for power gain). But now I see that there is an underlying game at play by unseen forces that are more powerful than the humans in the world.

?

The vagina monster was season 2.

In the very first scene of the very first episode of the series, we see living dead zombies and shit. The audience should accept supernatural powers at play from the very beginning.

 

[matricks]

Didnt Drogo come from royalty in dothraki culture? didnt he have a brother that commanded a big army?

The Dothraki don't care about bloodlines, royalty or lines of succession. They follow strength. Period.

Melisandre seemed very interested in Jon at Castle Black, before she left for Winterfell. When talking of her visions, she has never placed Stannis clearly in them this season ("Bolton banners are burning", "I am walking the walls of Winterfell"), I'm not sure what exactly she has said earlier either. After meeting Jon, she may have thought that Stannis may not be what she thought. The poor return on Shireens sacrifice (half of his men left with all of the horses) told her that she was on the wrong track. If the leeches paid so well, burning Shireen (standing even, to ensure she suffered as much as possible) should have made every Bolton spontaneously combust.

And I suppose Tyrion will spend two and a half season trying to manage the unruly city of Mereen now. That is going to take a lot of wine.

 

[cronos]

To bad they ran Varys off. He would know what to do. His little birds would know how to deal with sparrows.

Also, with Stannis' army gone is Littlefinger in trouble? His plan seemed to hinge on the Crown needing him to be able to counter Stannis.

I think his army was there. It was never said explicitly, but my understanding is that the whole cavalry that demolished Stannis's army wasn't just Ramsay's, but also LF's people from the Aery (Erie?). That's why there are so many of them. As you know, this is part of his plan, and as his agreement with Cersei was, he would help Ramsay defeat Stannis, and then he would turn against Ramsay and take over Winterfell.

 

[nageov3t]

Jon Snow warged into wolf at the last moment to save his consciousness in a wolf body.

Ellaria will kill her brother, take the throne and march on King's Landing.

Dorne is the smallest of the 7 Kingdoms, with one of the smallest armies as well... plus, the only way to reach King's Landing would be to march through Tyrell territory (unfortunately for Martells, that's also the largest, most wealthy kingdom with the biggest army)

Dorne almost reminds me of Russia... a hard, difficult land to invade and hold, but also a power with major issues projecting their force.

 

[fuzzybabybunny]

?

The vagina monster was season 2.

In the very first scene of the very first episode of the series, we see living dead zombies and shit. The audience should accept supernatural powers at play from the very beginning.

I guess. For me the shadow was more a slap in the face than the zombies. At least zombies are physical and could have some weird physical explanation. But a shadow coming out of a woman's vagina and then flying about the physical world to then come out of the ethereal realm to murder somebody was like, "oh, I guess this just turned into full-on magic."

 

[Exophase]

Jaime has Doran's son on board. Why would Doran be complicit in an assassination plot when Jaime holds all the cards?

Good point, that should prevent any suspicion.

The second point still stands though, at the very least Jaime would need to somehow hail Dorne to let them know he's coming back so they can meet him officially. Otherwise he risks being ambushed by the assassins.

 

[cronos]

Jon Snow warged into wolf at the last moment to save his consciousness in a wolf body.

Ellaria will kill her brother, take the throne and march on King's Landing.

Yowsa. Who is this mysterious brother that we've never heard of before, and why would Ellaria want to kill him?

 

[zinfamous]

dragons, shadow monsters, zombies, random controlled ice storms, transferring one's soul into an animal....all of them within the same realm of suspension of disbelief.

You accept one, there isn't much of a limit on any of the others in a fantasy setting.

 

[zinfamous]

Yowsa. Who is this mysterious brother that we've never heard of before, and why would Ellaria want to kill him?

isn't that The Dornish chick and sister-lover to the Spaniard dude killed by the Mountain last season? Her other brother is the crippled dude and current lord of Dorn.

 

[Exophase]

Also, with Stannis' army gone is Littlefinger in trouble? His plan seemed to hinge on the Crown needing him to be able to counter Stannis.

Littlefinger doesn't care who wins in Winterfell, he said he'd send soldiers to pick off the winners who are worn from battle (but I don't think he expected the Boltons to take so little damage)

Cersei, who authorized his plan, wants the Boltons dead now for harboring Sansa whom shes as complicit in Joffrey's murder. Obviously she's also already extremely anti-Stannis. So either outcome makes her happier.

 

[fuzzybabybunny]

Dorne is the smallest of the 7 Kingdoms, with one of the smallest armies as well... plus, the only way to reach King's Landing would be to march through Tyrell territory (unfortunately for Martells, that's also the largest, most wealthy kingdom with the biggest army)

Dorne almost reminds me of Russia... a hard, difficult land to invade and hold, but also a power with major issues projecting their force.

Sounds like Dorne and Dany would make natural allies in their revenge of and quest for, respectively, the throne. They also share the same values and are the only two kingdoms that actually seem to value kindness versus backstabbing.

 

[JEDI]

7 seasons, 7 books, 7 kingdoms.

iirc, HBO wanted 10 seasons, and there's certainly enough source material that they could have stretched it out, but the writers/show runners balked at the idea.

so the book grrm is writing right now is the last to his series?

 

[fuzzybabybunny]

dragons, shadow monsters, zombies, random controlled ice storms, transferring one's soul into an animal....all of them within the same realm of suspension of disbelief.

You accept one, there isn't much of a limit on any of the others in a fantasy setting.

There's obviously different levels. I don't expect a zombie movie like World War Z to have ghosts.

This is also a new, different world than other well-established fantasy realms like Dungeons and Dragons. GoT so far appears to be a mix of D&D, traditional historical medieval, and Christian orthodoxy.

Different worlds have different limitations on what's possible. GoT is not D&D. I don't expect Dany's army to suddenly have legions of mages hurling fireballs and every warrior to have enchanted weapons while dragons hoard gold in their lairs. I would expect most people to be shocked if GoT suddenly went full-D&D even though one could argue "it could happen" based on what we've seen.

Since it's a new universe in GoT, there's always a period where you're trying to see what the limitations or possibilities are.

 

[JEDI]

Jon Snow warged into wolf at the last moment to save his consciousness in a wolf body.

obvious answer to Jon Snow being dead or alive:

they're shooting Season6 right now.

is the actor playing jon snow seen in any of the shoots?

 

[zinfamous]

obvious answer to Jon Snow being dead or alive:

they're shooting Season6 right now.

is the actor playing jon snow seen in any of the shoots?

someone posted an article earlier in this thread.