Game of Thrones - TV Series (NO BOOK SPOILERS)

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the drawn out scene in Littlefinger's brothel to just say that prince is bisexual...

If that's all you took away from that scene, then you missed the fairly crucial piece of information that Oberyn is boiling over with homicidal rage towards the Lannisters; just hearing the Rains of Castamere has him ready to skip the whores and go straight to murdering people in public. It immediately dovetails into explaining WHY he is so angry with the Lannisters, setting him up as an interesting plot piece for this season. It was an excellent scene, probably my favorite this year (aside from the Hound getting chickens, of course).

But I could definitely do with less Stannis and Theon. The worst is Bran at this point; surprised you didn't mention him.
 

alkemyst

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Feb 13, 2001
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I'm sure Jaime knows the children are his. He guarded Robert's bedroom door and knew who he was having sex with, and it was seldom Cersei.

When Daario pledged his loyalty to Dany, he also pledged the Second Sons.

Jaime absolutely knows. Like his brother tells his mistress,
"YOU DON'T TALK ABOUT IT!"

Always little birds around.
 

smackababy

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If that's all you took away from that scene, then you missed the fairly crucial piece of information that Oberyn is boiling over with homicidal rage towards the Lannisters; just hearing the Rains of Castamere has him ready to skip the whores and go straight to murdering people in public. It immediately dovetails into explaining WHY he is so angry with the Lannisters, setting him up as an interesting plot piece for this season. It was an excellent scene, probably my favorite this year (aside from the Hound getting chickens, of course).

But I could definitely do with less Stannis and Theon. The worst is Bran at this point; surprised you didn't mention him.

He also gave a good piece of information a lot of people seemed to miss. When referring to his sister (Rhaegar's wife), he says Rhaegar left her for another women, she was raped and killed, along with her children. I want you to read that slowly and then think of what caused Robert to march on the Mad King. Not everyone believes Rhaegar kidnapped Ned's sister.
 

alkemyst

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I can't wait until Cersei dies.

p.s. I haven't read the books. I'm just assuming that she will at some point.

If you follow the show at all, the 'bad' guys don't always die.

Picture Cersei as the chick of every man's dream in looks, the brain of a genius, and without a care in the world of just killing someone because they forgot her extra water at dinner.
 

cubby1223

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If that's all you took away from that scene, then you missed the fairly crucial piece of information that Oberyn is boiling over with homicidal rage towards the Lannisters; just hearing the Rains of Castamere has him ready to skip the whores and go straight to murdering people in public. It immediately dovetails into explaining WHY he is so angry with the Lannisters, setting him up as an interesting plot piece for this season. It was an excellent scene, probably my favorite this year (aside from the Hound getting chickens, of course).

But I could definitely do with less Stannis and Theon. The worst is Bran at this point; surprised you didn't mention him.

I know, but the scene could have been shorter and still convey the same message.

I'm okay with the Theon storyline because it appears to be the next battle, them versus the Stark kids for reign over the North.

But the Stannis story I just cannot stand. And it is in large part because I cannot make myself believe the premises to it - that they draw their power because their blood is different than other people's blood and has magical significance just because Robert sat on the throne for a period of time. They could have made the case that Baratheon blood has genetic differences making them favored by the God of Light, but they didn't, they declared it is because Robert was King, thus giving him King blood, and apparently only King Robert has King blood and no other king had it, and once he became king his king blood spread out to his brothers and I don't know...

I'd like to see that plotline develop into something bigger where you can see how that red lady fits in to the greater world, but right now it's just a small-time cult without much of a goal or a plan.
 

KeithTalent

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It sucks because the Stannis storyline should be awesome, but damn it is just so uninteresting. I'm sure stuff will come to a head later, but for now, it stinks. I'd rather watch a bunch of Bran's story since at least then we usually get some Hodor action.

KT
 

smackababy

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If you follow the show at all, the 'bad' guys don't always die.

Picture Cersei as the chick of every man's dream in looks, the brain of a genius, and without a care in the world of just killing someone because they forgot her extra water at dinner.

Except, Cersei is anything but that. She is old (40), not incredibly smart (despite how clever she believes she is), and has a knack for having people killed that start wars.
 

blackdogdeek

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Hodor

It sucks because the Stannis storyline should be awesome, but damn it is just so uninteresting. I'm sure stuff will come to a head later, but for now, it stinks. I'd rather watch a bunch of Bran's story since at least then we usually get some Hodor action.

KT

I actually like the Bran storyline. I want to see how his worg powers will help with vengeance I'm hoping he eventually unleashes.

Hodor
 

KeithTalent

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Hodor



I actually like the Bran storyline. I want to see how his worg powers will help with vengeance I'm hoping he eventually unleashes.

Hodor

Hodor?

I actually don't mind the story so much, I just find the kids kind of annoying particularly now that the wilding chick is gone.

KT
 

alkemyst

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The poisoning must have something to do with The Fool and the necklace that he gave Sansa to wear. He was there in a hurry when Joffrey hit the ground.

There is a something to do with that.

I will say this TV series is something half-wits will be pissed off about (not saying you are a half-wit).

It moves fast.

If you want a spoiler look up olenna sansa blue gem on google. Most think Olenna is a real Lannister.. She is not at all, she is from the house of Tyrell.

I am not sure if Cersei or Olenna are better at getting what they want.
 

alkemyst

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Hodor?

I actually don't mind the story so much, I just find the kids kind of annoying particularly now that the wilding chick is gone.

KT

Many do because at home they think "I'd just stomp on that kid's head or kick them with their steel-toes"
 

blackdogdeek

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Hodor

Hodor?

I actually don't mind the story so much, I just find the kids kind of annoying particularly now that the wilding chick is gone.

KT

Oh yes, I don't find the kids as interesting as Bran or the wilding chick. They were more interesting when we knew less about them but they seem more and more ordinary as Bran seems to grow in power. I like Hodor because of his intense dialogue and he's always there to lend a supportive "Hodor" just when you need it.

Hodor
 

alkemyst

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Except, Cersei is anything but that. She is old (40), not incredibly smart (despite how clever she believes she is), and has a knack for having people killed that start wars.

OK, you don't understand charisma.

So write yourself into the story and kill her or at least beat her up if you want.

lol
 

tHa ShIzNiT

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dude, alkemyst...you're getting way too hinty with your posts here. way too close to spoiling. I have always been entertained by your posts but you're gonna have to hit the ignore list for the time being.
 

tHa ShIzNiT

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I just can't quit this thread. I wish I could. Even the black bars are ridiculously tempting. What is wrong with me
 

alkemyst

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Hodor



I actually like the Bran storyline. I want to see how his worg powers will help with vengeance I'm hoping he eventually unleashes.

Hodor

I didn't read the books. I haven't studied the books on this.

IMHO, Bran is aligned with the wolves that were killed. That is his family now to me.

And they killed Rob's and Sansa's wolves. I think they bonded for life. I am just saying what I know about dogs. In the beginning it was Bran that saved that Wolf Mother.
 

Skel

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It's sad you thought his additions were funny.

I wouldn't say he was funny.. but I do find myself already missing him. He brought this unique tension to every scene he was in because one never knew which way he was going be feeling. He was a really good psycho, made even better with his power.
 

Theb

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I know, but the scene could have been shorter and still convey the same message.

I'm okay with the Theon storyline because it appears to be the next battle, them versus the Stark kids for reign over the North.

But the Stannis story I just cannot stand. And it is in large part because I cannot make myself believe the premises to it - that they draw their power because their blood is different than other people's blood and has magical significance just because Robert sat on the throne for a period of time. They could have made the case that Baratheon blood has genetic differences making them favored by the God of Light, but they didn't, they declared it is because Robert was King, thus giving him King blood, and apparently only King Robert has King blood and no other king had it, and once he became king his king blood spread out to his brothers and I don't know...

I'd like to see that plotline develop into something bigger where you can see how that red lady fits in to the greater world, but right now it's just a small-time cult without much of a goal or a plan.

It's not so much the blood it's just the laws of succession. Stannis doesn't believe Robert sired a heir so that makes him next in line for the throne under the laws of succession.

In Stannis insistence on following the law he is of course conveniently ignoring that Robert was never heir to the throne.

Hodor hodor hodor. Hodor.
 

alkemyst

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Tyrion for king!

He doesn't have a claim, his dad hates him and he's been accused of murder but WHO CARES

Tyrion for king!

He indeed does have a claim to the throne. He is way behind Jaime though.

A King doesn't have to have is son come out of the Queen to have a right to the throne. That Queen is just there for his entertainment.
 

alkemyst

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I wouldn't say he was funny.. but I do find myself already missing him. He brought this unique tension to every scene he was in because one never knew which way he was going be feeling. He was a really good psycho, made even better with his power.

to me good psycho = dead psycho.
 

ZaneNBK

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Most think Olenna is a real Lannister.. She is not at all, she is from the house of Tyrell.

Who are these most people? Olenna was introduced as a Tyrell and as Margaery's grandmother in the show. She's always been referred to as such and most scenes she's in she's either talking to Margaery or on her behalf or making wedding preparations. Even in the scene with her talking to Tywin in this episode she's verbally sparring with him, not having a friendly chat with a relative.
 

Legios

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I'd like to see that plotline develop into something bigger where you can see how that red lady fits in to the greater world, but right now it's just a small-time cult without much of a goal or a plan.

They also sort of glossed over the Lord of Light resurrecting Beric a ton of times. Its the same "God" yet portrayed completely different.
 
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