Oh because all white walkers look the same huh? Racist!
Him saying "things will get more interesting!" isn't exactly a spoiler. I would assume everyone knows it will, at the very least, remain as interesting as it is now. Otherwise, the shark has been jumped and it the show is on a fast track to be cancelled.Why did you do that? This is an absolutely no spoilers from the book thread.
PLEASE don't post any veiled or vague spoilers of any kind.
Thanks.
That reason is that Dany's story is the lowest common denominator story meant to appeal to a viewer who doesn't normally get into this fantasy stuff, but loves say The Hunger Games. An obvious hero with obvious (to a modern person) villains, shiny special effects (dragons), and none of the mystery and politics that makes the rest of Game of Thrones, well Game of Thrones.
That is why I am pretty much bored with her plotline, even though I am glad she is on the show if she is what allows the entire thing to be mainstream and big budget.
Why do they have to be WHITE walkers? Obviously, they are not equal opportunity walkers. I say we protest at the wall!
Him saying "things will get more interesting!" isn't exactly a spoiler. I would assume everyone knows it will, at the very least, remain as interesting as it is now. Otherwise, the shark has been jumped and it the show is on a fast track to be cancelled.
Yes good post. I would like to add that it doesn't necessarily interest non fantasy viewers either. I for one have never been interested in this genre. Had even tried to read the Ice and Fire books once - not knowing anything about the show - and like a lot of popular fiction, was turned off by the clumsy writing style.
For a show that makes a big deal of how nothing is black and white in power and politics, the whole good vs evil thing of Dany is quite lame. I could go on and on, but suffice to say, her character and her story line (not to mention that silly, annoying grin on her face..ha!) is quite a drag.
That reason is that Dany's story is the lowest common denominator story meant to appeal to a viewer who doesn't normally get into this fantasy stuff, but loves say The Hunger Games. An obvious hero with obvious (to a modern person) villains, shiny special effects (dragons), and none of the mystery and politics that makes the rest of Game of Thrones, well Game of Thrones.
I think her storyline would be less appealing to a mainstream audience.
1. Dragons are the most prominent fantasy element in the show, although the white walkers are becoming more prominent.
2. Westeros and the people who inhabit it seem similar to medieval Europe and Europeans, which is more relatable to the audience. The dothraki are not relatable.
3. Most use of made up languages is in the Dany segments.
Yes good post. I would like to add that it doesn't necessarily interest non fantasy viewers either. I for one have never been interested in this genre. Had even tried to read the Ice and Fire books once - not knowing anything about the show - and like a lot of popular fiction, was turned off by the clumsy writing style.
For a show that makes a big deal of how nothing is black and white in power and politics, the whole good vs evil thing of Dany is quite lame. I could go on and on, but suffice to say, her character and her story line (not to mention that silly, annoying grin on her face..ha!) is quite a drag.
Not I. Which is why I love this thread so much.How many people picked up, during his speech, that LF was talking about the Tyrells simply because he used their house motto?
Yes good post. I would like to add that it doesn't necessarily interest non fantasy viewers either. I for one have never been interested in this genre. Had even tried to read the Ice and Fire books once - not knowing anything about the show - and like a lot of popular fiction, was turned off by the clumsy writing style.
For a show that makes a big deal of how nothing is black and white in power and politics, the whole good vs evil thing of Dany is quite lame. I could go on and on, but suffice to say, her character and her story line (not to mention that silly, annoying grin on her face..ha!) is quite a drag.
^I pretty much agree that the complexity of Dany is far below that of most other characters, save for maybe the late Ned the Honorable.
How many people picked up, during his speech, that LF was talking about the Tyrells simply because he used their house motto?
I didn't know that was their motto, so I didn't catch that. Though the very next scene (or close to it) Olenna basically stands up and smacks you in the face and yells I KILLED HIM!! Muhahahaha!
I think Dany is just as evil as the other "good" evil people in the show.
I've had this feeling all along that her eventual return to Westeros will not be a benevolent one. Hell, she's already crucifying slave owners against the advice of her council. I wonder how her body count compares to Tywin's at this point?
How many people picked up, during his speech, that LF was talking about the Tyrells simply because he used their house motto?
That's kind of where I'm at. I mean, at a superficial glance, she comes off as incredibly one-dimensional, ala Ned Stark; everything is justice and honor (let's not forget that we were introduced to Ned Stark via him executing someone who had the indecency to run away from a White Walker). But she's taking a pretty hard-line stance on what justice means; killing 168 slavers because they killed 168 slaves is elementary level "eye for an eye" justice, and history has shown that doesn't really fly in Westeros. She seems to just be doing things that will get her adoration among the slaves she's freeing rather than considering the role mercy and forgiveness play in making one a good leader, and to that sense she's not just concerned with justice but her own vanity; I'm the mother of dragons, the breaker of chains, I do what I want. That's not nobility, that's the petulant whine of someone who was born and raised being told that it was their divine right to lead the world. So, yes, it's easy to root for her because slavery is wrong and she's fixing it, but she's doing it for selfish reasons as much as anything else.
I agree with the people saying Dany is not the altruistic and just ruler she has been portrayed as recently. Her "kindness" has gotten her a huge army and helped her take two cities with barely a fight. It's just a ploy she has been using and using well.
She is like Margary, in that she knows how to make people like her.
When the situation calls for it, I am betting Dany can be as cruel as anyone we have seen so far in the show. I suspect the time is coming soon when we will see this.
I think Dany is just as evil as the other "good" evil people in the show.
I've had this feeling all along that her eventual return to Westeros will not be a benevolent one. Hell, she's already crucifying slave owners against the advice of her council. I wonder how her body count compares to Tywin's at this point?
I would assume Tommen is going to have another pussy to keep him company at night now. Ser Pounce is no longer needed. =)
It is said when a Targaryan was born the god's flipped a coin. Viserys (her brother) was cruel and mad, perhaps she just repressed hers until she got into power. It is apparent she does have a bleeding heart, but once she got some power, she saw fit to use it as SHE wanted. It was evident when she took the Dothraki spoils from the warriors. Imagine if she was queen of Westeros and took some nobles spoils "because it was her right". Another war.
You also can't say she isn't smart. An army you bought won't die for you like an army that loves you. Building her army in this way, it is pretty much guaranteed they will fight for her, no matter what.