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Ant001

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It sounds to me like you should get a GC. IMO the only thing Xbox has going for it is Halo, and then Halo 2, and you said you didn't like it. Ninja Gaiden is OK, other than that I don't know of any Xbox games that I'd ever play that can't be played better on PC.

Wind Waker is alright, though I personally don't care for the graphics. The new Zelda looks awesome, but then so does Halo 2. I also have JKII, which is kinda fun, but only 2 players. Smash Bros is really fun, though the characters aren't as balanced as they are in the original (Roy on 200% dmg always wins). If you can get the OOT/Master Quest disc, it's a lot of fun.
 

XBoxLPU

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Legend of Zelda:Wind Waker
Rouge Squadron I and II
Soul Calibur 2
Super Mario Sunshine
Metriod Prime
Pikmin
Viewtiful Joe
Metal Gear Solid:Twin Snakes ( orginal PS MGS Game with a few MGSII features ! )
Eternal Darkness
Price of Persia
F-Zero GX
And quite a few "party games"
 

bunnyfubbles

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yeah, if KOTOR was only for Xbox that'd be another thing going for it

But as the newly redesigned Legend of Zelda proves, the company has instead reverted to a presentation more akin to the dark and gritty look of Link and Gannondorf previewed at Space World 2000 in Japan.

Nintendo however confirmed to IGNcube that the newly redesigned title does in fact run on a modified version of the Wind Waker engine. The company also revealed that the new Legend of Zelda is in fact not a remake of any kind, but instead an entirely original undertaking.

definately get GC now I know I am!
 

magomago

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Originally posted by: Wahsapa
3 friends of mine work at the local gamestop so im pretty in touch with the console gaming world and as things stand now your best choices for a system are either the GAMECUBE or XBOX.

its retarded the amount of ps2's that break. as for "it can play dvds" get a dvd player you cheap bastards, a console videogame shouldnt be purchased on the decision of if it can play movies or not.

its not about which consoles better its about which one is best for you. you already own a pc, so you prolly shouldnt get an xbox because it really is just a pc in the form of a console. maybe when xbox2 comes out next year, but i would definately hold off on buying one right now.

the gamecube i think is really the best option for someone not knowing what they want because it gives you basically everything. everything that a console should be atleast (ie: not a dvd player/computer). 4 players, quality game library, and its connectivity to the gameboy advanced platform give it a very broad array of functionality.

and the quality of japanese gamecube games far surpasses a large portion of the games released here. half the ps2's game library is trash(but that can be said about many consoles).

gamecube = win


Hahaha sorry...but if you think that having friends who work at a local gaming store makes you knowledge in what goes on...HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAH

no offense, but people who work at local gaming stores are generally some of the most biased, out of touch, and FUD spreading people I've ever read. Not saying your friends are some, but this is what i've noticed across many different gaming stores.



But it seems you have your heart dead set on GC. So go buy one~ Just remember to gte a warranty. Everyone who bitches about broken consoles....I'm one of those guys who wouldn't buy something that is 100+ without getting those PRP plans (only times they are useful IMO). Then again my psx nor Ps2 have broken, but that 30 dollars brings me peace of mind.


As for the issue of DVD player...it isn't that as much as the fact that DVDs store 4.7Gigabytes of information vs GC 1.5 Gigs...if you go and look at reviews of games that appear on Ps2/Gc/Xbox you'll notice that GENERALLY the audio quality and FMV presentation is more compressed on the Gamecube than the latter due to the fact that it can store smaller data.

...heheh aside from that I heard Sony might put blue-ray into the Ps3.....imagine in MS and Nintendo followed suit.....talk about fast penetration of BlueRay into the Market


Anyways, buy the games you want. If you really don't like RPGS, and you are a Zelda whore...the answer is simple.
 

heresiarh

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Originally posted by: magomago
Originally posted by: Wahsapa
3 friends of mine work at the local gamestop so im pretty in touch with the console gaming world and as things stand now your best choices for a system are either the GAMECUBE or XBOX.

its retarded the amount of ps2's that break. as for "it can play dvds" get a dvd player you cheap bastards, a console videogame shouldnt be purchased on the decision of if it can play movies or not.



Anyways, buy the games you want. If you really don't like RPGS, and you are a Zelda whore...the answer is simple.

List the games you enjoy on the PS2.
 

MournSanity

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GameCube for sure. Check out the latest games Nintendo announced at E3. Metroid Prime 2, a realistic Zelda, Geist...GameCube is the system to own.
 

going5hole

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The RPG genre is about to get a small boost from Ninendo. They are about to make a Paper Mario 2, and hopefully a Mario RPG sequel. Eternal Darkness is a great game that dispells the "kiddie" myth about the GCN as well. Plus, since no one has mentioned this yet, the Wavebird is hands down the best wireless controller I've ever used.
 

ZippyDan

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i own Xbox, GC, PS2 and i rank them so:

Xbox > GC >>>> PS2

xbox has the most hardware potential. has many of the best games. has the best controller (s controller). and is just all around best. about its only downside is that the xbox itself is too big, and i wish the top were flat so i could stack stuff on it.

gc comes in second in terms of hardware, as its graphic capability can nearly match the xbox. games are the gamecubes biggest strength and weakness as it has more good exclusives than any of the other systems (nintendo classics from mario, zelda, metroid) but not much else. the tiny cubeness of the cube makes it the best system physically

ps2 is my least used system. almost all good ps2 games can be found on the xbox, except they are better on the xbox, so why would i spend $50 for an inferior version of the same game? ps2 hardware seems like the cheapest too and has a reputation of breaking. graphics are a very distant second to xbox/gc. its got two things going for it: it dominates in game selection with like 3x the games of the xbox and gc put together. this is not much of a factor for me though as imo most of those games are crap, and the good ones end up on xbox or gc anyway. the real reason to get a ps2 is for rpgs, most notably square enix (final fantasy?). the ps2 is ugly, the only good thing about it physically is you can stack stuff on it! the gc is flat but the cd is on top so no stacking

game selection (quantity):

PS2 >>>> Xbox >> GC

game selection (quality):

Xbox > GC > PS2

controller:

Xbox > PS2 > GC

the xbox s controller has the perfect size, ergonomics, build quality, and button placement. the old gigantic xbox controller was the worst of all, but the option for a larger controller if someone likes it is nice. the ps2 controller feels kind of cheapy (except for the rubber sticks), too small, and not very ergonomic, but its easy to get a hang of thanks to standard button placement. the gc controller is a little two small but more ergonomic than the ps2, i like it the least because they had to mess with the diamond button placement everyone is used to from snes, n64, psx, dreamcast, ps2, xbox. if i played the gc more though, im sure i would get more used to it.

play time:

Xbox >>> GC > PS2

both in single and multiplay the Xbox dominates. for multiplay Halo is still unchallenged. GC has Crystal Chronicles, Monkey Ball and Mario Kart. the PS2 has... only two controller ports!! sony, even the N64 had 4 controller ports what were you thinking with the multitap? on the flip side, Xboxs ability to hook up 4 consoles at a time via network cable for 16 players is fantastic. GC can do this too but not nearly enough games support it

i dont play much online console, but Xbox Live! is clearly the best. unfortunately it also costs $$ whereas PS2 online is free. other than that PS2s only other advantage was that it had EA (Madden Football?), but in 2005 EA will support Xbox live also. both have tons of people playing online. you can also use gamespy to play Xbox online for some games. GC has no official online play, but the fan-made WarpPipe program supposedly lets you play online. im sure it works fine but ive never used it

for single play things are closer, Final Fantasy can take up a lot of time on PS2. so can Halo and Tom Clancy games, Ninja Gaiden, Lord of the Rings, Football, and Kotor on Xbox. GC has Mario Sun, Metroid, Zelda, Star Wars Rogue, etc.

graphics:

Xbox > GC >>>> PS2

Xbox can do 1080i on an HDTV (in certain games). enough said. GC is capable of progressive scan output. PS2 can do progressive too, but not nearly enough games support it. Xbox barely beats out GC in graphic capability, but it does beat it. PS2 is so ugly by comparison its not funny. that said u can find ugly and pretty games on all the systems.

sound:

Xbox > PS2 > GC

Xbox and PS2 can both do optical dolby digital 5.1 surround sound. GC can only do prologic via normal red/white RCA cables (its still surround sound...). likely though, you wont notice the difference btween any of them as they all do a good job

modding?

Xbox is the best one to mod. with its harddrive you can turn it into a PC. you can download games and store them on a 250GB HD in your modded xbox. PS2 can also be successfully modded and maybe with the new PS2 HD can perform similar feats as the Xbox, but i think thats still a ways a way. the Xbox and PS2 both use normal DVDs so it makes "backing up" games easy (i buy all my games, this is just an extra note fyi), but GC's awesome and cute tiny DVDs probably makes such an endeavor more difficult. i really dont know much about GC modding, but im pretty sure its much more difficult if not impossible and probably less useful

wireless controllers?

this is a tough call for me. in general, i hate 3rd part stuff, so the Nintendo wavebird as the only 1st party control would have to get my nod. its well built, works great, and has got nothing but good reviews. but its lack of rumble feature drives me crazy. how hard would it have been to put a switch to turn rumble on/off and let me choose battery conservation or not?

logitech makes some nice controllers for PS2 and Xbox, perhaps of even better build quality than the 1st party stuff and wireless technology that equals or surpasses the wavebird, and rumble!. unfortunately, the ergonomics of the logitech Xbox controller dont nearly match that of the s controller. and ive heard that the Xbox live headphones wont work with it.

the PS2 logitech probably is the best of the wireless controllers in that it doesnt have much to live up to in the original PS2 controllers. the original PS2 controllers arent outstandingly ergonomic to begin with, and there are no special expansion ports to replicate, and the logitech controllers have rumble. that said, all the logitech wireless controls are ridiculous expensive for that kind of product. i would stay away from madcatz/pelican controls or any other third party. yea they prolly work, but they feel cheap.

purchase order:

1. ps2
2. gc
3. xbox

i bought PS2 first because it came out first. no but really, i bought it mainly because of Final Fantasy IX. i had never owned a PSX and i played FF7 and 8 on the computer. when it became apparent that FF9 was not coming to computer, i bought me a PS2. the fact that PS2 could play PSX games was a plus, as i could finally catch up on all those PSX games that i had missed. in the process i discovered the best console available at the time (before you jump on me, i own a Dreamcast too, but it was already doomed) and had a great time playing it for the year when Nintendos only answer was still the N64

when the Xbox and GC came out close together, i viewed the Xbox as a MS dreamcast-like-flop waiting to happen. when Rogue Squadron for GC came out with what seemed to be the best graphics i had seen in a game so far, i had to get one. and the promise of new Marios and Zeldas for a kid who grew up on Nintendo was a plus too. i stopped buying new games for PS2, and aside from FFs and some other RPGs, all my play time went to GC.

a year later the Xbox fianlly started gaining popularity. there was no specific specific game that made me buy an Xbox (i hadnt played Halo yet). it was a simple matter of my demanding tastes. many good games (like Bond, Madden, LotR, Soul Caliber, Star Wars flying games, Splinter Cell) were coming out on multiple systems, but they were always, at least slightly, better on the Xbox. games cost the same for all three consoles, so why not spend the same and get a better version of the game for Xbox? thus, my first half dozen games were games available on multiple systems. it was only later that i discovered the Xbox hardware potential meant some great exclusives, first and foremost among them being Halo. since then, 80% of my console time is with the Xbox

if Square's exclusivity with Sony is nearing an end (as FF Crystal Chronicles suggests), then there will be almost no reason to buy a PS2 imo. many of the good once exclusive PS2 games (like Grand Theft Auto, and Metal Gear Solid) have made their way onto other consoles. the PS2 is the most redundant of the three, imo. sure it has the most games, but how many of those are worth getting? the Xbox and GC have their fair share of exclusives too. when it comes to GOOD exclusives, they are all probably pretty even though. so deciding which one you want is just a matter of choosing which exclusives matter to you most. then decide what other features matter to you: graphics, multiplay (online, lan, 4-player), controllers, the box itself...

~Zippy!
 

nageov3t

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it depends 100% on the type of games you play.

I'm a big RPG person, so GC and XBox are pretty much worthless to me. I do own a GameCube, but I only use it for playing GBA games; I don't actually own a single GameCube game.

If you're looking for high quality "action" games and don't feel like buying an XBox, go for the Game Cube.
 

CasTroLTraN

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I have most of the console on the market right now, and I must say go with the gamecube. The GC's graphic is great (better than PS2). And the games for GC is decent (mostly kiddy games), but some really great ones like Metal Gear Solid Twin Snakes, Marion Sunshine, Metroid Prime and the new one that I am waiing to try out is Starcraft Ghost.

Actually I would urge you to get an Xbox because it has the most stunning graphics of all the console and the games are really great such as Ninja Gaiden and the Xbox live has some nice features. And the good thing is that it cost less than the PS2.

Buying games/consoles from gamestop is not such a bad idea. For the used systems, they give you 90 days warranty. But I highly doubted that your console will break down withing the warranty period. Best to get a new one if you do plan to buy your console at gamestop because the "used" ones are only $20 cheaper.

Order of my playtime

Xbox > Gamecube > PS2
 

Celstar

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Hey Zippy,

You're right. If FF is no longer going to be exclusive to only PS2, then there really isn't any reason to get a PS2 anymore. However FF12 will still be on the PS2 so I'll have to keep my unit for at that. I've noticed that more and more games are ported across many different consoles including the PC.
 

bunnyfubbles

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I'd have to agree with Zippys summary of the systems (most PS2 support is there only because A. it is Sony, B. PS2 came out before the other systems and ate up the market)

The one thing I'd dissagree with is his rating the PS2 controller better than GC, I mean common, the N64 controller is better than the PS2 controller, which has not changed much since PSX. Actually the only thing that has chagned is the two joysticks added on after Sony realized Nintendo's genious move with the joystick was a must have for the new 3D games (previous consoles ofering primarily 2d games) HOWEVER, the mere fact that Sony has yet to put the primary joystick in its proper place (both MS and Nintendo got it right) makes the PS2 controller the worst IMHO. It just is akward usuing the joystick when it isn't in a natural position to use, so do they expect us to use the D-pad instead? If so then they're still thinking backwards.
 

nageov3t

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philistines, the lot of you.

can't appreciate the quality non-FF RPG's that are exclusive to PS2. Disgaea and La Pucelle alone should be reasons enough to own a PS2
 

wkwong

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May 10, 2004
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gc has its good games, but ps2 has a much larger selection, there's a reason why the gc is $99 and ps2 only recently dropped in price
 

heresiarh

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Here's how I am seeing things now.

Xbox is out of the question since I don't like the games it offers. (I hate halo, no offence). As for PS2 console, if i want to play mature games, I will always lean more towards the PC since nothing beats it. As far as GC goes, I think I'm going to get it since it has the classic games like Zelda and Mario series.
 

RagingGuardian

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Make sure you pick up Viewtiful Joe for GC when you do get it. It's the most original game I've played in some time.
 

heresiarh

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Ladies & Gentlemen, gamecube it is. Thankyou for all the input. As always, I appreciate all your help. As soon I get the GC, I will post my experience of GC gaming.

PS. I will check out Viewtiful Joe.
 
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Metroid Prime. And I know that you have your mind made up, and I think it's a good decision, but just because you hate Halo doesn't mean you should have ruled out an Xbox entirely because of it.
 

heresiarh

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Agreed, I shouldn't have shot down the Xbox but like i said, if i wanted to play serious RPGs or FPS, i would just stick with the pc.
 
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